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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 09:59:45
Message: <46fbb751@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias wrote:
> Thank you everyone for the kind and funny wishes!
> 
> I'm not really a ranter (is that a word?) in regards to my birthday and 
> age, so I hope you all got my drift that my post was originally meant to 
> be funny. I'm 26 now, and pessimistic peeps would say I'm heading 
> straight to 30 now (as if 30 were a bad age!), but I don't fuss that 
> much about my age. 26 isn't old, unless you're spending time with teens 
> or twents, and then you're wise and experienced all of a sudden, which I 
> honestly don't feel like. ;-)

Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!


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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 11:45:27
Message: <46fbd017$1@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:46fbb751@news.povray.org...
> Tim Nikias wrote:
> > Thank you everyone for the kind and funny wishes!
> >
> > I'm not really a ranter (is that a word?) in regards to my birthday and
> > age, so I hope you all got my drift that my post was originally meant to
> > be funny. I'm 26 now, and pessimistic peeps would say I'm heading
> > straight to 30 now (as if 30 were a bad age!), but I don't fuss that
> > much about my age. 26 isn't old, unless you're spending time with teens
> > or twents, and then you're wise and experienced all of a sudden, which I
> > honestly don't feel like. ;-)
>
> Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!

Ditto! And i'm only 29! Actually, what I really miss is the college
lifestyle. So far it seems to have been the peak of my creativity. Writing a
lot, playing a lot of guitar -- with other people no less, painting even.
Life's not so bad right now though :)


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 13:31:58
Message: <46fbe90e@news.povray.org>
"Mike Raiford" <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:46fbb751@news.povray.org...
> Tim Nikias wrote:
> > Thank you everyone for the kind and funny wishes!
> >
> > I'm not really a ranter (is that a word?) in regards to my birthday and
> > age, so I hope you all got my drift that my post was originally meant to
> > be funny. I'm 26 now, and pessimistic peeps would say I'm heading
> > straight to 30 now (as if 30 were a bad age!), but I don't fuss that
> > much about my age. 26 isn't old, unless you're spending time with teens
> > or twents, and then you're wise and experienced all of a sudden, which I
> > honestly don't feel like. ;-)
>
> Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!

Tell me about it. I'm headed towards 31. 26 seems like so long ago.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 14:07:39
Message: <46fbf16b@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
news:46fbe90e@news.povray.org...

>> Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!
>
> Tell me about it. I'm headed towards 31. 26 seems like so long ago.

    You youngster you...  ;)

    26? Yes please...

     ~Steve~


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 15:18:03
Message: <46fc01eb$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
> news:46fbe90e@news.povray.org...
> 
> 
>>>Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!
>>
>>Tell me about it. I'm headed towards 31. 26 seems like so long ago.
> 
> 
>     You youngster you...  ;)
> 
>     26? Yes please...
> 
>      ~Steve~ 
> 
> 
"Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw


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From: Brian Elliott
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:22:43
Message: <46fc7383$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
news:46fc01eb$1@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>> "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message 
>> news:46fbe90e@news.povray.org...
>>
>>
>>>>Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!
>>>
>>>Tell me about it. I'm headed towards 31. 26 seems like so long ago.
>>
>>
>>     You youngster you...  ;)
>>
>>     26? Yes please...
>>
>>      ~Steve~
> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw

I had been thinking of exactly that quote.  A lot of people, when they are 
young and have hot-looking, healthy bodies in their prime, don't have their 
emotional act together and lack a clue how to really live it and capitalise 
on their gifts of youth: health, beauty and time.

By the time they get their head sorted out and wanting to go for it, their 
bodies are already falling apart   I was one.  :-\


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:52:51
Message: <46fc7a93$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:

> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw

"Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 06:32:03
Message: <46fcd823$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
> 
>> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw
> 
> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV

"Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes in 
my heads."

:)


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From: Brian Elliott
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 11:15:52
Message: <46fd1aa8@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:46fcd823$1@news.povray.org...
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
>>
>>> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw
>>
>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
>
> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes in my 
> heads."

"Eh, he's just this guy, you know."


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 11:23:54
Message: <46fd1c8a$1@news.povray.org>
Brian Elliott wrote:
> "Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:46fcd823$1@news.povray.org...
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw
>>>
>>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
>>
>> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes in 
>> my heads."
> 
> "Eh, he's just this guy, you know."

"Listen three eyes, don't try to outweird me, I get stranger things than 
you free with my breakfast cereal."


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 12:58:21
Message: <46fd32ad@news.povray.org>
>>>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
>>>
>>> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes 
>>> in my heads."
>>
>> "Eh, he's just this guy, you know."
> 
> "Listen three eyes, don't try to outweird me, I get stranger things than 
> you free with my breakfast cereal."

Uh, dudes... WTF?

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 15:24:34
Message: <46fd54f2$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:34:24 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
>> 
>>> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw
>> 
>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
> 
> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes in
> my heads."

"So you see young Zaphod, when thinking of ways to describe what you are 
making of your life, I find the prhase 'pig's ear' tends to spring to 
mind."

;-)

(Yes, skipped a bit, but the next lines from where your response came 
from are a bit shorter)

Been listening to it in the car - again - the last few weeks.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 15:25:36
Message: <46fd5530$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:26:16 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> "Listen three eyes, don't try to outweird me, I get stranger things than
> you free with my breakfast cereal."

One of my favourite lines of all time.  :-)

"You ain't seen nothin' yet - I can take this floor out, too, no problem!"

JIM


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 15:25:54
Message: <46fd5542$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:58:44 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

>>>>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
>>>>
>>>> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes
>>>> in my heads."
>>>
>>> "Eh, he's just this guy, you know."
>> 
>> "Listen three eyes, don't try to outweird me, I get stranger things
>> than you free with my breakfast cereal."
> 
> Uh, dudes... WTF?

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, secondary phase.

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 28 Sep 2007 22:45:45
Message: <46fdbc59@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford escribió:
> Tim Nikias wrote:
>> Thank you everyone for the kind and funny wishes!
>>
>> I'm not really a ranter (is that a word?) in regards to my birthday 
>> and age, so I hope you all got my drift that my post was originally 
>> meant to be funny. I'm 26 now, and pessimistic peeps would say I'm 
>> heading straight to 30 now (as if 30 were a bad age!), but I don't 
>> fuss that much about my age. 26 isn't old, unless you're spending time 
>> with teens or twents, and then you're wise and experienced all of a 
>> sudden, which I honestly don't feel like. ;-)
> 
> Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!

I'm 16. I guess you would *kill* me if I make a post like Tim's, ranting 
about being old? xD


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 29 Sep 2007 02:03:48
Message: <46fdeac4@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:48:33 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!
> 
> I'm 16. I guess you would *kill* me if I make a post like Tim's, ranting
> about being old? xD

Well, I wouldn't, but largely because I don't want to do 16 again.  For 
me, that was a year of maximum suckage.  17 wasn't bad, because I got to 
spend a couple weeks in the USSR on a concert tour, but really anything 
before 25 or so isn't something I care to repeat.

Jim


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 15:07:54
Message: <46fff40a$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias wrote:
> 
> I'M DOOMED! I'M GETTING OLDER AND OLDER AND SOMEDAY I WILL DIE OF OLD AGE!
> 

You can avoid dying of old age by getting killed by something else -
like traffic accident or a football huligan.

> Regards,
> Tim
> 


-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
   http://www.zbxt.net
      aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 15:11:04
Message: <46fff4c8$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:

> You can avoid dying of old age by getting killed by something else -
> like traffic accident or a football huligan.

Death by sex, anyone?

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 16:27:37
Message: <470006b9$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:11:31 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
>> You can avoid dying of old age by getting killed by something else -
>> like traffic accident or a football huligan.
> 
> Death by sex, anyone?

Ah, so you've seen Monty Python's "Meaning of Life", have you? ;-)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 16:50:39
Message: <47000c1f$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

>> Death by sex, anyone?
> 
> Ah, so you've seen Monty Python's "Meaning of Life", have you? ;-)

Um... yes I have, but I fail to see the relevance...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 17:26:34
Message: <4700148a$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:51:05 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>>> Death by sex, anyone?
>> 
>> Ah, so you've seen Monty Python's "Meaning of Life", have you? ;-)
> 
> Um... yes I have, but I fail to see the relevance...

Part VII.  The opening is not really death by sex, but that was the image 
that was evoked by your comment. :-)

Jim


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 18:06:43
Message: <47001df3@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:46fff4c8$1@news.povray.org...
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
>
>> You can avoid dying of old age by getting killed by something else -
>> like traffic accident or a football huligan.
>
> Death by sex, anyone?

     What does 'sex' mean??!!

        ~Steve~





>
> -- 
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 19:14:04
Message: <47002dbc@news.povray.org>
St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>      What does 'sex' mean??!!

  It's something everybody else is doing.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 30 Sep 2007 19:49:36
Message: <47003610$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:06:35 +0100, St. wrote:

> "Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:46fff4c8$1@news.povray.org...
>> Eero Ahonen wrote:
>>
>>> You can avoid dying of old age by getting killed by something else -
>>> like traffic accident or a football huligan.
>>
>> Death by sex, anyone?
> 
>      What does 'sex' mean??!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sex

HTH, HAND.... ;-)

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 1 Oct 2007 01:30:32
Message: <470085f8@news.povray.org>
Warp escribió:
> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>>      What does 'sex' mean??!!
> 
>   It's something everybody else is doing.
> 
Perfect definition.


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From: Brian Elliott
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 1 Oct 2007 05:09:29
Message: <4700b949@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v3" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:46fff4c8$1@news.povray.org...
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
>
>> You can avoid dying of old age by getting killed by something else -
>> like traffic accident or a football huligan.
>
> Death by sex, anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antechinus
http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/forest/animals/antechinus.html


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 05:45:18
Message: <4700c1ae$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:26:16 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> 
>> "Listen three eyes, don't try to outweird me, I get stranger things than
>> you free with my breakfast cereal."
> 
> One of my favourite lines of all time.  :-)
> 
> "You ain't seen nothin' yet - I can take this floor out, too, no problem!"

"What a depressingly stupid machine."


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 05:48:31
Message: <4700c26f$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:34:24 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw
>>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
>> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes in
>> my heads."
> 
> "So you see young Zaphod, when thinking of ways to describe what you are 
> making of your life, I find the prhase 'pig's ear' tends to spring to 
> mind."

"Um, ah, where was I?"
"Pontificating."
"Ah, yes."

> Been listening to it in the car - again - the last few weeks.

I must have listened to them a hundred times. I especially like the 
secondary phase because it has so many plot elements that have never 
been reused anywhere else, so it always feels really fresh.

"How did you nutters get in here?"
"Well, what it is, you see, is, well, we flew in. Yes, definitely, we 
flew in."
"Well, bloody fly out again."

:)


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From: Arttu Voutilainen
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 15:00:18
Message: <470143c2@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Mike Raiford escribió:
>> Tim Nikias wrote:
>>> Thank you everyone for the kind and funny wishes!
>>>
>>> I'm not really a ranter (is that a word?) in regards to my birthday
>>> and age, so I hope you all got my drift that my post was originally
>>> meant to be funny. I'm 26 now, and pessimistic peeps would say I'm
>>> heading straight to 30 now (as if 30 were a bad age!), but I don't
>>> fuss that much about my age. 26 isn't old, unless you're spending
>>> time with teens or twents, and then you're wise and experienced all
>>> of a sudden, which I honestly don't feel like. ;-)
>>
>> Pfff 26. What I would give to be 26 again!
> 
> I'm 16. I guess you would *kill* me if I make a post like Tim's, rantin
g
> about being old? xD

Hey cool, I thought I was the only youngster here ;)

-- Arttu "Blizzara" Voutilainen --

  -- http://www.zbxt.net/~blizzara --

    -- http://antilzah.deviantart.com --


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 15:16:13
Message: <4701477d@news.povray.org>
"Arttu Voutilainen" <bli### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote in message 
news:470143c2@news.povray.org...
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> I'm 16. I guess you would *kill* me if I make a post like Tim's, ranting
> about being old? xD

> Hey cool, I thought I was the only youngster here ;)

   LOL, hey, we're youngsters too - just not in body! (Well, some of us at 
least, including myself!)

   Wait until *you* get to 40!   <eg>  ;)

      ~Steve~



-- Arttu "Blizzara" Voutilainen --

  -- http://www.zbxt.net/~blizzara --

    -- http://antilzah.deviantart.com --


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:05:27
Message: <47015307$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:47:40 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:26:16 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> 
>>> "Listen three eyes, don't try to outweird me, I get stranger things
>>> than you free with my breakfast cereal."
>> 
>> One of my favourite lines of all time.  :-)
>> 
>> "You ain't seen nothin' yet - I can take this floor out, too, no
>> problem!"
> 
> "What a depressingly stupid machine."

"The building's on fire..."

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:06:14
Message: <47015336$1@news.povray.org>
Arttu Voutilainen wrote:

> Hey cool, I thought I was the only youngster here ;)

Well, I *was* a youngster when I first came here... o_O

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:41:08
Message: <47015b64$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:50:54 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:34:24 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:07 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Youth is wasted on the young"  -George Bernard Shaw
>>>> "Life is wasted on the living" - Zaphod Beeblebrox IV
>>> "Very good. Very deep. Right now I need aphorisms like I need holes in
>>> my heads."
>> 
>> "So you see young Zaphod, when thinking of ways to describe what you
>> are making of your life, I find the prhase 'pig's ear' tends to spring
>> to mind."
> 
> "Um, ah, where was I?"
> "Pontificating."
> "Ah, yes."

"Well, let me tell you a little story..."

>> Been listening to it in the car - again - the last few weeks.
> 
> I must have listened to them a hundred times. I especially like the
> secondary phase because it has so many plot elements that have never
> been reused anywhere else, so it always feels really fresh.

My younger brother and I used to quiz each other on various minutiae from 
the primary and secondary phases.  I used to be able to quote it verbatim 
without the use of scripts.  I still do recite most of it with the 
series, including the credits, and the little quip after most of the 
episodes.

But the sorts of questions Steve and I would ask each other would have 
considered "what was the improbability factor that Ford and Arthur were 
rescued by the Heart of Gold at?" to be a simple questions. (2^267709:1 
against - possibly much higher)

More along the lines of:

How many times had Lintilla been cloned?
 
What was the ratio of Lintilla clones to lonely business executives that 
was maintained to keep the laws of supply and demand in balance?

Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon ship?

In the end of the first episode, there's a chord played played after 
Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz issues his ultimatum to Ford and Arthur.  What is 
the piece of music that chord comes from, and who was the composer?

> "How did you nutters get in here?"
> "Well, what it is, you see, is, well, we flew in. Yes, definitely, we
> flew in."
> "Well, bloody fly out again."

Listened to that bit on the drive in this morning.  Fit the Twelfth 
finished just as I pulled into my parking spot.

There is a benefit to a 45-minute+ drive in the morning. :-)

"VarNtvar...."
"Varntvar.  He's a priest.  Does marriages, and other things, but mostly 
marriages."

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:42:24
Message: <47015bb0@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:06:43 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Arttu Voutilainen wrote:
> 
>> Hey cool, I thought I was the only youngster here ;)
> 
> Well, I *was* a youngster when I first came here... o_O

Heh, you still are...you still are. ;-)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 16:57:49
Message: <47015f4d$1@news.povray.org>
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:06:43 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>> Well, I *was* a youngster when I first came here... o_O
> 
> Heh, you still are...you still are. ;-)

Yeah. Just now it's only in my head. :-/

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 1 Oct 2007 17:02:54
Message: <4701607e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:58:18 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

>> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:06:43 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>> Well, I *was* a youngster when I first came here... o_O
>> 
>> Heh, you still are...you still are. ;-)
> 
> Yeah. Just now it's only in my head. :-/

Oh, no, it's not just in your head.  You may *feel* old at 26 (or 
whereever you happen to be - I forget), but take it from those who are 
older, if you think you're old now, just wait....

Getting older is mandatory; growing up, however, is optional. :-)

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 2 Oct 2007 05:45:14
Message: <4702132a$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> But the sorts of questions Steve and I would ask each other would have 
> considered "what was the improbability factor that Ford and Arthur were 
> rescued by the Heart of Gold at?" to be a simple questions. (2^267709:1 
> against - possibly much higher)
Hmm, I couldn't have answered that, but I suppose if you know the 
Islington area code you're halfway there ;-)

> More along the lines of:
> 
> How many times had Lintilla been cloned?
Millions, as I recall, and, typically for Adams, a terribly specific number.

> What was the ratio of Lintilla clones to lonely business executives that 
> was maintained to keep the laws of supply and demand in balance?
Crikey, this merely rings a bell.

> Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon ship?
Ah, a fifty-fifty. Very generous! Um, left? My imagination says right 
and for some reason my imagination always gets left and right wrong.

> In the end of the first episode, there's a chord played played after 
> Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz issues his ultimatum to Ford and Arthur.  What is 
> the piece of music that chord comes from, and who was the composer?
I thought it was a radiophonic effect. Sounds like an organ, so I'll say 
Bach.

>> "How did you nutters get in here?"
>> "Well, what it is, you see, is, well, we flew in. Yes, definitely, we
>> flew in."
>> "Well, bloody fly out again."
> 
> Listened to that bit on the drive in this morning.  Fit the Twelfth 
> finished just as I pulled into my parking spot.

:D

> There is a benefit to a 45-minute+ drive in the morning. :-)
I currently walk to work, but if I ever face a commute this will be my 
strategy also.

> "VarNtvar...."
> "Varntvar.  He's a priest.  Does marriages, and other things, but mostly 
> marriages."

:D

"I have worked out that if I stick my left hand into my right ear I can 
electrocute myself."
"What?"
"Terminally."
"Is that so."
"I can do it at a moment's notice. Just give the word."
"Just cool it, Marvin."
...
"I think I'll go and hide."



PS we seem to have hijacked this thread in a direction nobody could have 
predicted


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 2 Oct 2007 13:08:38
Message: <47027b16@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> Getting older is mandatory; growing up, however, is optional. :-)

I'll remember that one next time my mum throws a temper tantrum...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 2 Oct 2007 13:38:11
Message: <47028203$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:47:36 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> But the sorts of questions Steve and I would ask each other would have
>> considered "what was the improbability factor that Ford and Arthur were
>> rescued by the Heart of Gold at?" to be a simple questions. (2^267709:1
>> against - possibly much higher)
> Hmm, I couldn't have answered that, but I suppose if you know the
> Islington area code you're halfway there ;-)
> 
>> More along the lines of:
>> 
>> How many times had Lintilla been cloned?
> Millions, as I recall, and, typically for Adams, a terribly specific
> number.

578 thousand million times. :-)

> 
>> What was the ratio of Lintilla clones to lonely business executives
>> that was maintained to keep the laws of supply and demand in balance?
> Crikey, this merely rings a bell.

It's a bit of a trick question - the cloning machine was making 6 copies 
of Lintilla for a Brantasvogon escort agency while another was making 500 
lonely business executives to keep the laws of supply and demand working 
profitably.  The ratio, therefore, is 6:500. :-)  The "trick" is that 
most would think of the much larger number (578 thousand million)

>> Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon
>> ship?
> Ah, a fifty-fifty. Very generous! Um, left? My imagination says right
> and for some reason my imagination always gets left and right wrong.

They got into the right-hand one.  Ford tells Zaphod "You and the others 
take the left-hand one". :-)

>> In the end of the first episode, there's a chord played played after
>> Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz issues his ultimatum to Ford and Arthur.  What
>> is the piece of music that chord comes from, and who was the composer?
> I thought it was a radiophonic effect. Sounds like an organ, so I'll say
> Bach.

Nope, far, far too dissonant for Bach.  Its Lontano, from A Modern Mass 
for the Dead by Ligeti.

>>> "How did you nutters get in here?"
>>> "Well, what it is, you see, is, well, we flew in. Yes, definitely, we
>>> flew in."
>>> "Well, bloody fly out again."
>> 
>> Listened to that bit on the drive in this morning.  Fit the Twelfth
>> finished just as I pulled into my parking spot.
> 
> :D

I always like when that happens, and it happens more often than it seems 
it should by chance.

>> There is a benefit to a 45-minute+ drive in the morning. :-)
> I currently walk to work, but if I ever face a commute this will be my
> strategy also.
> 
>> "VarNtvar...."
>> "Varntvar.  He's a priest.  Does marriages, and other things, but
>> mostly marriages."
> 
> :D
> 
> "I have worked out that if I stick my left hand into my right ear I can
> electrocute myself."
> "What?"
> "Terminally."
> "Is that so."
> "I can do it at a moment's notice. Just give the word." "Just cool it,
> Marvin."
> ...
> "I think I'll go and hide."

"Pausing only to reconstruct the whole infrastructure of integral 
mathematics in his head, he went about his humble task, never thinking to 
ask for reward, recognition or even a moment's ease from the terrible 
pain in all the diodes down his left side.   Fetch Beeblebrox they say, 
and forth he goes..."

> PS we seem to have hijacked this thread in a direction nobody could have
> predicted

It would seem so. :-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 2 Oct 2007 13:38:26
Message: <47028212$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:09:08 +0100, Orchid XP v3 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Getting older is mandatory; growing up, however, is optional. :-)
> 
> I'll remember that one next time my mum throws a temper tantrum...

Probably best from a distance. ;-)

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 3 Oct 2007 05:56:12
Message: <4703673c$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> How many times had Lintilla been cloned?
>> Millions, as I recall, and, typically for Adams, a terribly specific
>> number.
> 
> 578 thousand million times. :-)

"Don't worry, the others aren't here right now."

>>> What was the ratio of Lintilla clones to lonely business executives
>>> that was maintained to keep the laws of supply and demand in balance?
>> Crikey, this merely rings a bell.
> 
> It's a bit of a trick question - the cloning machine was making 6 copies 
> of Lintilla for a Brantasvogon escort agency while another was making 500 
> lonely business executives to keep the laws of supply and demand working 
> profitably.  The ratio, therefore, is 6:500. :-)  The "trick" is that 
> most would think of the much larger number (578 thousand million)

Oh yes, I only recently noticed this joke, the first time I listened to 
the series I was a little young to get that one.

>>> Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon
>>> ship?
>> Ah, a fifty-fifty. Very generous! Um, left? My imagination says right
>> and for some reason my imagination always gets left and right wrong.
> 
> They got into the right-hand one.  Ford tells Zaphod "You and the others 
> take the left-hand one". :-)

Arse. Damn you, brain.

>>> In the end of the first episode, there's a chord played played after
>>> Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz issues his ultimatum to Ford and Arthur.  What
>>> is the piece of music that chord comes from, and who was the composer?
>> I thought it was a radiophonic effect. Sounds like an organ, so I'll say
>> Bach.
> 
> Nope, far, far too dissonant for Bach.  Its Lontano, from A Modern Mass 
> for the Dead by Ligeti.

Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)

>>> Listened to that bit on the drive in this morning.  Fit the Twelfth
>>> finished just as I pulled into my parking spot.
> 
> I always like when that happens, and it happens more often than it seems 
> it should by chance.
Well, with a 45 minute commute and 30 minute episodes it's bound to 
happen half the time, surely? :)

>> "I have worked out that if I stick my left hand into my right ear I can
>> electrocute myself."
>> "What?"
>> "Terminally."
>> "Is that so."
>> "I can do it at a moment's notice. Just give the word." "Just cool it,
>> Marvin."
>> ...
>> "I think I'll go and hide."
> 
> "Pausing only to reconstruct the whole infrastructure of integral 
> mathematics in his head, he went about his humble task, never thinking to 
> ask for reward, recognition or even a moment's ease from the terrible 
> pain in all the diodes down his left side.   Fetch Beeblebrox they say, 
> and forth he goes..."

"Fact: I ache, therefore I am. Or in my case, I am, therefore I ache. 
Oh, look. I appear to be lying at the bottom of a very deep, dark hole. 
That seems a familiar concept. What does it remind me of? Ah, yes. Life. 
Perhaps if I lie here and ignore it it'll go away again. Or perhaps not. 
To be perfectly frank with myself, if it didn't go away as a result of 
my falling thirteen miles through the air and a further mile through 
solid rock, I'm probably stuck with it for good. Why don't I climb out? 
Why don't I just lie here? Why don't I just go zootle wurdle? Does it 
matter? Even if it does matter, does it matter that it matters? Zootle 
wurdle, zootle wurdle..."

And so on.


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 3 Oct 2007 09:37:54
Message: <47039b32@news.povray.org>
Brian Elliott wrote:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antechinus
> 

"...twelve hours..." !!!!!!!!!!

--Sherry Shaw


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 3 Oct 2007 12:27:35
Message: <4703c2f7@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:58:35 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> How many times had Lintilla been cloned?
>>> Millions, as I recall, and, typically for Adams, a terribly specific
>>> number.
>> 
>> 578 thousand million times. :-)
> 
> "Don't worry, the others aren't here right now."

"I don't think you CAN dig your way off a planet..."

>>>> What was the ratio of Lintilla clones to lonely business executives
>>>> that was maintained to keep the laws of supply and demand in balance?
>>> Crikey, this merely rings a bell.
>> 
>> It's a bit of a trick question - the cloning machine was making 6
>> copies of Lintilla for a Brantasvogon escort agency while another was
>> making 500 lonely business executives to keep the laws of supply and
>> demand working profitably.  The ratio, therefore, is 6:500. :-)  The
>> "trick" is that most would think of the much larger number (578
>> thousand million)
> 
> Oh yes, I only recently noticed this joke, the first time I listened to
> the series I was a little young to get that one.

One of the reasons I like the series so much - there's a lot of nuanced 
jokes, not to mention social commentary.  For example:

"The President's job - and if someone sufficiently vain and stupid he 
won't realize this - is not to wield power, but to draw attention away 
from it."

>>>> Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon
>>>> ship?
>>> Ah, a fifty-fifty. Very generous! Um, left? My imagination says right
>>> and for some reason my imagination always gets left and right wrong.
>> 
>> They got into the right-hand one.  Ford tells Zaphod "You and the
>> others take the left-hand one". :-)
> 
> Arse. Damn you, brain.

LOL!

Who was Trillian said to be married to after this scene occurred?

>>>> In the end of the first episode, there's a chord played played after
>>>> Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz issues his ultimatum to Ford and Arthur.  What
>>>> is the piece of music that chord comes from, and who was the
>>>> composer?
>>> I thought it was a radiophonic effect. Sounds like an organ, so I'll
>>> say Bach.
>> 
>> Nope, far, far too dissonant for Bach.  Its Lontano, from A Modern Mass
>> for the Dead by Ligeti.
> 
> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)

I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.  Not that it was an easy 
question, I had to look up the spelling of the name. :-)  I have to 
admit, though, that in the tertiary-quintessential phases, this is 
something I missed a lot - I liked that DNA used recognisable pieces of 
music for the backdrop; the music behind the "ad" for Milliways, for 
example, is The Engulfed Cathedral by Claude Debussy, but performed by 
Isao Tomita.  I have the album here somewhere, in fact (entitled 
"Snowflakes are Dancing", another Debussy work).

>>>> Listened to that bit on the drive in this morning.  Fit the Twelfth
>>>> finished just as I pulled into my parking spot.
>> 
>> I always like when that happens, and it happens more often than it
>> seems it should by chance.
> Well, with a 45 minute commute and 30 minute episodes it's bound to
> happen half the time, surely? :)

But the episodes aren't 30 minutes; they actually have a running time of 
between 29 and 30 minutes (originally), but the new series' recordings I 
have are extended editions, and a few of them run as long as 40 minutes 
with the added material.

> "Fact: I ache, therefore I am. Or in my case, I am, therefore I ache.
> Oh, look. I appear to be lying at the bottom of a very deep, dark hole.
> That seems a familiar concept. What does it remind me of? Ah, yes. Life.
> Perhaps if I lie here and ignore it it'll go away again. Or perhaps not.
> To be perfectly frank with myself, if it didn't go away as a result of
> my falling thirteen miles through the air and a further mile through
> solid rock, I'm probably stuck with it for good. Why don't I climb out?
> Why don't I just lie here? Why don't I just go zootle wurdle? Does it
> matter? Even if it does matter, does it matter that it matters? Zootle
> wurdle, zootle wurdle..."
> 
> And so on.

"I know."

"Shut up, Marvin, this is *organism* talk."

"It's printed in the earthman's brain wave patterns, but I suppose you'll 
be very interested in knowing that."

"You mean you can see into my mind?"

"Yes"

"And?"

"It amazes me how you manage to live in anything that small."

"Ah.  Abuse!"

"Ah, ignore him, he's only making it up."

"Making it up?  Why should I want to make anything up?  Life's bad enough 
as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 4 Oct 2007 09:51:05
Message: <4704efc9@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> 578 thousand million times. :-)
>> "Don't worry, the others aren't here right now."
> 
> "I don't think you CAN dig your way off a planet..."

Aha, the Crisis Inducer, another corker that never made it out of the 
radio series.

"How I Scaled The North Face Of The Megapurna With A Sprained Finger" 
swept away by titles like
"How I Scaled The North Face Of The Megapurna With A Perfectly Healthy 
Finger But Everything Else Sprained, Broken Or Bitten Off By A Pack Of 
Mad Yaks"

...or however it goes. I like the way Adams just sticks the word 'mega' 
in front of a normal word to make it seem other-worldly. Especially 
things from Arcturus; megadonkey, megarhino (with or without bronchial 
pneumonia), megavoidwhale...

>>>>> Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon
>>>>> ship?
>>>> Ah, a fifty-fifty. Very generous! Um, left? My imagination says right
>>>> and for some reason my imagination always gets left and right wrong.
>>> They got into the right-hand one.  Ford tells Zaphod "You and the
>>> others take the left-hand one". :-)
>> Arse. Damn you, brain.
> LOL!
> Who was Trillian said to be married to after this scene occurred?

Oh, I can't remember. You've well and truly pummelled me with your 
expertise in this matter... :)

>> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)
> 
> I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.

Well, given how accurate my answer was you'd have been perfectly safe.

> But the episodes aren't 30 minutes; they actually have a running time of 
> between 29 and 30 minutes (originally), but the new series' recordings I 
> have are extended editions, and a few of them run as long as 40 minutes 
> with the added material.
Are the new series any good? I listened to a few episodes when they 
aired on the radio but they seemed to follow the books word for word and 
it wasn't the same without Peter Jones (even if the rest of the cast 
were present).

> "I know."
> "Shut up, Marvin, this is *organism* talk."
> "It's printed in the earthman's brain wave patterns, but I suppose you'll 
> be very interested in knowing that."
> "You mean you can see into my mind?"
> "Yes"
> "And?"
> "It amazes me how you manage to live in anything that small."
> "Ah.  Abuse!"
> "Ah, ignore him, he's only making it up."
> "Making it up?  Why should I want to make anything up?  Life's bad enough 
> as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."


"But I'm quite used to being humiliated. I can even go and stick my head 
in a bucket of water if you want. Shall I go and stick my head in a 
bucket of water? I've got one ready. Just a minute."
"What's he saying?"
"Nothing, he just phoned up to wash his head at us."

:)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 4 Oct 2007 11:14:24
Message: <47050350@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:53:27 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> 578 thousand million times. :-)
>>> "Don't worry, the others aren't here right now."
>> 
>> "I don't think you CAN dig your way off a planet..."
> 
> Aha, the Crisis Inducer, another corker that never made it out of the
> radio series.

Yeah, that was an inspired idea.  "Come on, they're after us!"

> "How I Scaled The North Face Of The Megapurna With A Sprained Finger"
> swept away by titles like
> "How I Scaled The North Face Of The Megapurna With A Perfectly Healthy
> Finger But Everything Else Sprained, Broken Or Bitten Off By A Pack Of
> Mad Yaks"
> 
> ...or however it goes. I like the way Adams just sticks the word 'mega'
> in front of a normal word to make it seem other-worldly. Especially
> things from Arcturus; megadonkey, megarhino (with or without bronchial
> pneumonia), megavoidwhale...

He was very good at coming up with names for things; I always wanted to 
ask him where some of the names came from.  Unfortunately, the two times 
I had an opportunity to talk with him, I didn't have a lot of time (once 
in person, once on the radio).  But I ran into an old friend of mine 
recently who runs a radio show called Shockwave Radio Theater, and many 
years ago he had the opportunity to interview Adams.  We bumped into each 
other online recently, and he said "you know, I still owe you something" 
and send me a DVD with all the bits of Shockwave on it, and included in 
there was an interview with Adams that was quite good; I think it was 
from right after MH was released.

>>>>>> Which escape capsule did Ford and Arthur get into in the Hagunnenon
>>>>>> ship?
>>>>> Ah, a fifty-fifty. Very generous! Um, left? My imagination says
>>>>> right and for some reason my imagination always gets left and right
>>>>> wrong.
>>>> They got into the right-hand one.  Ford tells Zaphod "You and the
>>>> others take the left-hand one". :-)
>>> Arse. Damn you, brain.
>> LOL!
>> Who was Trillian said to be married to after this scene occurred?
> 
> Oh, I can't remember. You've well and truly pummelled me with your
> expertise in this matter... :)

LOL!

She was forcibly married to the President of the Galactic Rotary Club.

>>> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)
>> 
>> I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.
> 
> Well, given how accurate my answer was you'd have been perfectly safe.

True, true.  But still there's all the dodging and weaving to be done - 
that's more effort than I'd want to put into it. :-)

>> But the episodes aren't 30 minutes; they actually have a running time
>> of between 29 and 30 minutes (originally), but the new series'
>> recordings I have are extended editions, and a few of them run as long
>> as 40 minutes with the added material.
> Are the new series any good? I listened to a few episodes when they
> aired on the radio but they seemed to follow the books word for word and
> it wasn't the same without Peter Jones (even if the rest of the cast
> were present).

I like the new ones - just listened to the first and second episodes of 
the Tertiary phase.  Dirk Maggs wanted to not create any new material, 
but he did source material from discussions he had with Adams back in the 
90's about doing another series.  The first episode was largely written 
by DNA back then, but then the movie was on (again) and he went to work 
on that.

I think William Franklyn did a good job as the book - he was a good 
friend of Peter Jones as well, and while it certainly isn't the same 
without Peter, or Richard Vernon, or David Tate, there's something to be 
said for hearing Marvin again.  And Simon Jones brings the same sort of 
energy to the role of Arthur (as far as I'm concerned, there's only one 
person who is Arthur, and that's Simon).  The loss of Peter Jones becomes 
less significant in the Quintessential phase, since by that time the 
guide has been taken over and the voice of the bird takes over for the 
book - played by none other than Rula Lenska, better known as 
Lintilla. :-)

BBC4 have just started running Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency 
(first episode was yesterday, and it's available online).  Not sure what 
I think of it yet; I had a listen, but wasn't paying attention that 
much.  I have to recode it to MP3 and put it on my iPod and listen again.

> "But I'm quite used to being humiliated. I can even go and stick my head
> in a bucket of water if you want. Shall I go and stick my head in a
> bucket of water? I've got one ready. Just a minute." "What's he saying?"
> "Nothing, he just phoned up to wash his head at us."

"The car park?  What are you doing in the car park?"

"Parking cars, what else does one do in a car park?"

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 4 Oct 2007 11:30:35
Message: <4705071b@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> 578 thousand million times. :-)
>>>> "Don't worry, the others aren't here right now."
>>> "I don't think you CAN dig your way off a planet..."
>> Aha, the Crisis Inducer, another corker that never made it out of the
>> radio series.
> 
> Yeah, that was an inspired idea.  "Come on, they're after us!"

"Who?"
"Nobody. Come on!"
"But.."
"Come on!!"

> He was very good at coming up with names for things; I always wanted to 
> ask him where some of the names came from.  Unfortunately, the two times 
> I had an opportunity to talk with him, I didn't have a lot of time (once 
> in person, once on the radio).  But I ran into an old friend of mine 
> recently who runs a radio show called Shockwave Radio Theater, and many 
> years ago he had the opportunity to interview Adams.  We bumped into each 
> other online recently, and he said "you know, I still owe you something" 
> and send me a DVD with all the bits of Shockwave on it, and included in 
> there was an interview with Adams that was quite good; I think it was 
> from right after MH was released.

Very interesting. I read the Salmon of Doubt not too long ago, and 
despite the unfinished nature of the work it was a very good read. It 
also has a large collection of interviews, articles and personal 
recollections from friends and colleagues that make for a very moving 
picture of a very likeable man.

>>>>> They got into the right-hand one.  Ford tells Zaphod "You and the
>>>>> others take the left-hand one". :-)
>>>> Arse. Damn you, brain.
>>> LOL!
>>> Who was Trillian said to be married to after this scene occurred?
>> Oh, I can't remember. You've well and truly pummelled me with your
>> expertise in this matter... :)
> LOL!
> She was forcibly married to the President of the Galactic Rotary Club.

Should have had another stab.

>>>> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)
>>> I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.
>> Well, given how accurate my answer was you'd have been perfectly safe.
> True, true.  But still there's all the dodging and weaving to be done - 
> that's more effort than I'd want to put into it. :-)

Just keep still. You'd have been like a greenfly on a dartboard 400 
yards away.

> said for hearing Marvin again.  And Simon Jones brings the same sort of 
> energy to the role of Arthur (as far as I'm concerned, there's only one 
> person who is Arthur, and that's Simon).
Absolutely. I also think Ford and Zaphod's radio personae are by far the 
best too. I know they got MW-D in for the TV series, which was good, but 
too many people think of Ford as whoever it was who stepped into GMcG's 
shoes.

> BBC4 have just started running Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency 
> (first episode was yesterday, and it's available online).
Ooh, careful, I got all excited for a second. BBC4 is the TV channel, 
remember, I gather you're referring to Radio4! :)

>> "But I'm quite used to being humiliated. I can even go and stick my head
>> in a bucket of water if you want. Shall I go and stick my head in a
>> bucket of water? I've got one ready. Just a minute." "What's he saying?"
>> "Nothing, he just phoned up to wash his head at us."
> 
> "The car park?  What are you doing in the car park?"
> "Parking cars, what else does one do in a car park?"

"Everybody alright? Lintilla?"
"Yes,"/"Yes,"/"Yes."
"Marvin?"
"Never better."
"Good."
"Still pretty bad though."
"Right."


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: Pssst
Date: 4 Oct 2007 13:25:00
Message: <470521ec$1@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:

> "...twelve hours..." !!!!!!!!!!

That must be quite a ride...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 5 Oct 2007 01:10:14
Message: <4705c736$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:32:57 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>> 578 thousand million times. :-)
>>>>> "Don't worry, the others aren't here right now."
>>>> "I don't think you CAN dig your way off a planet..."
>>> Aha, the Crisis Inducer, another corker that never made it out of the
>>> radio series.
>> 
>> Yeah, that was an inspired idea.  "Come on, they're after us!"
> 
> "Who?"
> "Nobody. Come on!"
> "But.."
> "Come on!!"

Well, close enough. :-)

Don't forget the bottle of little pink evening classes. :-)

> Very interesting. I read the Salmon of Doubt not too long ago, and
> despite the unfinished nature of the work it was a very good read. It
> also has a large collection of interviews, articles and personal
> recollections from friends and colleagues that make for a very moving
> picture of a very likeable man.

Yes, I thought it was an interesting read.  And he was very likeable; I 
might've mentioned my autographed towel at some point - he was doing a 
book signing near the University of Minnesota while I was taking some 
summer orchestra classes there; I skipped a rehearsal (much to the 
chagrin of the conductor, who also happened to be my private teacher as 
well) to go stand in line; I got to the front of the line and presented 
the towel to Adams; he laughed, said nobody had ever asked him to sign a 
towel before, and he proceeded to sign it.  Took both of us leaning on 
the corners to keep it from moving while he did.

And of course, being the hoopy frood I am, I know right where it is. :-)

>>>> Who was Trillian said to be married to after this scene occurred?
>>> Oh, I can't remember. You've well and truly pummelled me with your
>>> expertise in this matter... :)
>> LOL!
>> She was forcibly married to the President of the Galactic Rotary Club.
> 
> Should have had another stab.

"Hey, that hurt!"

>>>>> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)
>>>> I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.
>>> Well, given how accurate my answer was you'd have been perfectly safe.
>> True, true.  But still there's all the dodging and weaving to be done -
>> that's more effort than I'd want to put into it. :-)
> 
> Just keep still. You'd have been like a greenfly on a dartboard 400
> yards away.

But you're rubbish at close range, is that what you're saying? ;-)

>> said for hearing Marvin again.  And Simon Jones brings the same sort of
>> energy to the role of Arthur (as far as I'm concerned, there's only one
>> person who is Arthur, and that's Simon).
> Absolutely. I also think Ford and Zaphod's radio personae are by far the
> best too. I know they got MW-D in for the TV series, which was good, but
> too many people think of Ford as whoever it was who stepped into GMcG's
> shoes.

David Dixon.  The thing is, I didn't really like his Ford that much.  
Geoffrey's voice was just perfect for it, but apparently he was too big 
around to be mistaken for an impoverished hitchhiker.

Don't even talk to me about Mos Def as Ford.  That had to be the worst 
possible choice for the role; the movie, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't 
exist except for two things:  1, Stephen Frye as the book, and 2, for the 
book animations.  Those were well done.

>> BBC4 have just started running Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
>> (first episode was yesterday, and it's available online).
> Ooh, careful, I got all excited for a second. BBC4 is the TV channel,
> remember, I gather you're referring to Radio4! :)

Yes, Radio4, sorry, I do know the difference. :-)

>>> "But I'm quite used to being humiliated. I can even go and stick my
>>> head in a bucket of water if you want. Shall I go and stick my head in
>>> a bucket of water? I've got one ready. Just a minute." "What's he
>>> saying?" "Nothing, he just phoned up to wash his head at us."
>> 
>> "The car park?  What are you doing in the car park?" "Parking cars,
>> what else does one do in a car park?"
> 
> "Everybody alright? Lintilla?"
> "Yes,"/"Yes,"/"Yes."
> "Marvin?"
> "Never better."
> "Good."
> "Still pretty bad though."
> "Right."

"Right, where are we going?"
"How should I know?  It's your Universe.  You go where you like."

And

"Right, Everyone understand?"
"Yes."
"Marvin?"
"Understand?  You ask me if *I* understand?"
"Yes or no?"
"Guess."

:-)

Jim


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 5 Oct 2007 11:05:32
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Yes, I thought it was an interesting read.  And he was very likeable; I 
> might've mentioned my autographed towel at some point - he was doing a 
> book signing near the University of Minnesota while I was taking some 
> summer orchestra classes there; I skipped a rehearsal (much to the 
> chagrin of the conductor, who also happened to be my private teacher as 
> well) to go stand in line; I got to the front of the line and presented 
> the towel to Adams; he laughed, said nobody had ever asked him to sign a 
> towel before, and he proceeded to sign it.  Took both of us leaning on 
> the corners to keep it from moving while he did.
Genius.

> And of course, being the hoopy frood I am, I know right where it is. :-)
I went backpacking round the world six years ago, and although I always 
knew where my towel was, I was disappointed to learn that it wasn't the 
most useful thing I had with me... :-(

>>>>>> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)
>>>>> I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.
>>>> Well, given how accurate my answer was you'd have been perfectly safe.
>>> True, true.  But still there's all the dodging and weaving to be done -
>>> that's more effort than I'd want to put into it. :-)
>> Just keep still. You'd have been like a greenfly on a dartboard 400
>> yards away.
> But you're rubbish at close range, is that what you're saying? ;-)
I'm getting confused between reality and metaphor now. I'm deadly at 
close range and dangerous at long range, but I didn't know what I was 
supposed to be aiming at! :)

> Don't even talk to me about Mos Def as Ford.  That had to be the worst 
> possible choice for the role;
I think it could have been worse. He wasn't great but he was better than 
I was expecting.

> the movie, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't 
> exist except for two things:  1, Stephen Frye as the book, and 2, for the 
> book animations.  Those were well done.
Well done, but not as inventive and fitting as those in the BBC TV 
series. My biggest problem with the movie was the lazy and unpleasant 
characterisation of Zaphod. He's supposed to be arrogant and shallow, 
but in the original series he's still fundamentally likeable and 
relatively with it. In the movie, they made him a total w**k*r with no 
real contribution to the plot whatsoever. A massive waste.

> "Right, Everyone understand?"
> "Yes."
> "Marvin?"
> "Understand?  You ask me if *I* understand?"
> "Yes or no?"
> "Guess."

That's one of the best. Makes me laugh just reading it!

"The first 10 million years were the worst. And the second 10 million 
years. They were the worst too. After that I went into a bit of a decline."

:)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Date: 5 Oct 2007 21:09:22
Message: <4706e042$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:07:54 +0100, Bill Pragnell wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Yes, I thought it was an interesting read.  And he was very likeable; I
>> might've mentioned my autographed towel at some point - he was doing a
>> book signing near the University of Minnesota while I was taking some
>> summer orchestra classes there; I skipped a rehearsal (much to the
>> chagrin of the conductor, who also happened to be my private teacher as
>> well) to go stand in line; I got to the front of the line and presented
>> the towel to Adams; he laughed, said nobody had ever asked him to sign
>> a towel before, and he proceeded to sign it.  Took both of us leaning
>> on the corners to keep it from moving while he did.
> Genius.

In retrospect, I'd find it hard to believe nobody else in the world has a 
towel autographed by him (there even was an "official" towel available 
for purchase once upon a time).  But it still was nice of him to act as 
if he'd never done that before.

>> And of course, being the hoopy frood I am, I know right where it is.
>> :-)
> I went backpacking round the world six years ago, and although I always
> knew where my towel was, I was disappointed to learn that it wasn't the
> most useful thing I had with me... :-(

Sadly, that is the case a lot of the time.  Probably due to the lack of 
antidepressants in one end of any given towel....

>>>>>>> Well, it was a wild stab in the dark. :)
>>>>>> I'm glad I wasn't in front of the knife.
>>>>> Well, given how accurate my answer was you'd have been perfectly
>>>>> safe.
>>>> True, true.  But still there's all the dodging and weaving to be done
>>>> - that's more effort than I'd want to put into it. :-)
>>> Just keep still. You'd have been like a greenfly on a dartboard 400
>>> yards away.
>> But you're rubbish at close range, is that what you're saying? ;-)
> I'm getting confused between reality and metaphor now. I'm deadly at
> close range and dangerous at long range, but I didn't know what I was
> supposed to be aiming at! :)

Well, not knowing what you're supposed to be aiming at makes it easier 
for me. :-)

>> Don't even talk to me about Mos Def as Ford.  That had to be the worst
>> possible choice for the role;
> I think it could have been worse. He wasn't great but he was better than
> I was expecting.

The thing is, he didn't seem to put anything into the role - he (and Sam 
Rockwell, for that matter) seemed to just be reading the lines.  Ford has 
to have this sort of manic energy, and with Mos Def, there wasn't ANY 
energy.

>> the movie, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't exist except for two
>> things:  1, Stephen Frye as the book, and 2, for the book animations. 
>> Those were well done.
> Well done, but not as inventive and fitting as those in the BBC TV
> series. 

True, and I think it's more impressive what was done in the TV series if 
you look at what Rod Lord had to do to create them (ISTR that's the guy 
who did it, but I could be wrong on that).

> My biggest problem with the movie was the lazy and unpleasant
> characterisation of Zaphod. He's supposed to be arrogant and shallow,
> but in the original series he's still fundamentally likeable and
> relatively with it. In the movie, they made him a total w**k*r with no
> real contribution to the plot whatsoever. A massive waste.

Yeah, and the second head thing was disappointing as well.  There are 
some things that shouldn't be messed with, and the idea that Zaphod 
picked Trillian up at a fancy dress party with his second head under a 
cage with a towel over it is one of those things.

Through the entire radio series, Zaphod does come across as shallow but 
also as smart.

>> "Right, Everyone understand?"
>> "Yes."
>> "Marvin?"
>> "Understand?  You ask me if *I* understand?" "Yes or no?"
>> "Guess."
> 
> That's one of the best. Makes me laugh just reading it!

Another:

"Think of a number.  Any number."
"Um, Five."
"Wrong."

From the tertiary phase.  They had a problem with the first recording of 
Marvin in that - Stephen Moore was so happy to "have the gang back 
together" that Marvin sounded too happy.  They had to re-record it.

> "The first 10 million years were the worst. And the second 10 million
> years. They were the worst too. After that I went into a bit of a
> decline."

Before "After that", "The third 10 million I didn't enjoy at all."  :-)

"Insanity is a gradual process; don't rush it." - that's also from the 
Tertiary phase. :-)

Jim


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