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From: gregjohn
Subject: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 07:40:00
Message: <web.47c407f1c87d415f34d207310@news.povray.org>
I've done to the site quite a few times and come away thinking it was completely
empty.


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 08:16:27
Message: <47c4112b$1@news.povray.org>
"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
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> I've done to the site quite a few times and come away thinking it was 
> completely
> empty.
>

What solution to this would people prefer?

Two alternatives spring to mind:
1. Adding a piece of text beside the search button saying "(No 
Parameters=Show All)"
2. Performing a search for everything when you first reach the search page 
(and therefore displaying the first 10 objects)

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 11:05:31
Message: <47c438cb@news.povray.org>
Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> 1. Adding a piece of text beside the search button saying "(No 
> Parameters=Show All)"
> 2. Performing a search for everything when you first reach the search page 
> (and therefore displaying the first 10 objects)

  3. Have a link like "browse all entries".

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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 13:15:00
Message: <web.47c456add74486b540d56c170@news.povray.org>
"Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> "gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
> news:web.47c407f1c87d415f34d207310@news.povray.org...
> > I've done to the site quite a few times and come away thinking it was
> > completely empty.
> >
>
> What solution to this would people prefer?

4.) A tag cloud (or cloud of keywords).  If that were not clear, I mean
something like the bottom half of this page:

http://flickr.com/photos/tags/


The problem is that on various sites, I've seen meshes of humans called humans,
man/ lady,  actors, characters, people.


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 14:26:33
Message: <47c467e9$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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> Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
>> 1. Adding a piece of text beside the search button saying "(No
>> Parameters=Show All)"
>> 2. Performing a search for everything when you first reach the search 
>> page
>> (and therefore displaying the first 10 objects)
>
>  3. Have a link like "browse all entries".
>
> -- 
>                                                          - Warp

That's interesting, because the search button also acts as a browse button 
if no search criteria is entered or if a category is selected, so it would 
be a tiny change to just title the button 'Search/Browse' if that would help 
make it clearer.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 14:29:52
Message: <47c468b0@news.povray.org>
Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> >  3. Have a link like "browse all entries".

> That's interesting, because the search button also acts as a browse button 
> if no search criteria is entered or if a category is selected

  I know. The problem is that it's far from evident that it does that.

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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 26 Feb 2008 14:45:38
Message: <47c46c62$1@news.povray.org>
"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
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> "Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
>> "gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
>> news:web.47c407f1c87d415f34d207310@news.povray.org...
>> > I've done to the site quite a few times and come away thinking it was
>> > completely empty.
>> >
>>
>> What solution to this would people prefer?
>
> 4.) A tag cloud (or cloud of keywords).  If that were not clear, I mean
> something like the bottom half of this page:
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/tags/
>

Hmm, that looks quite interesting and might be worth looking at when we've 
managed to build the collection up to hundreds or thousands of objects. At 
the moment I've been resisting the temptation to do much more application 
development on the site in preference for investing time in developing 
objects for the collection.

If there's some simple and quick way we can think of to clear up any 
confusion about how to display stuff, then I'd be keen to do that. I think 
the idea from Warp's response of indicating that you can 'Browse' the 
collection is a good and very straight forward one.

Do you think that would address the issue you raised?

>
> The problem is that on various sites, I've seen meshes of humans called 
> humans,
> man/ lady,  actors, characters, people.
>

This is the thinking behind encouraging people to index submissions with as 
many appropriate keywords as they can think of on the submission screens. 
It's also the reason that an object can be included in multiple categories. 
The intention is to make it as easy as possible for people trying to find 
things.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 6 Mar 2008 05:47:38
Message: <47cfcbca$1@news.povray.org>
"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
news:web.47c407f1c87d415f34d207310@news.povray.org...
> I've done to the site quite a few times and come away thinking it was 
> completely
> empty.
>

I've updated the main button to read 'Search/Browse' instead of just 
'Search'. This is a very small change, but I'd appreciate feedback on 
whether this makes it any clearer.  A number of people have reported not 
being aware that you can simply browse the whole collection. If people are 
leaving the site without it even being apparent that there's anything there, 
then clearly this is a big usability issue.

I'd appreciate any insights on how to make the site clearer and easier to 
use, particularly for those new to it. It's obviously impossible for me to 
view the site completely from the perspective of someone who doesn't know 
how everything works.  Changes that are quick to implement will be given a 
priority, but even if ideas can't be fully implemented immediately (due to 
time constraints), they can still contribute to future plans.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 6 Mar 2008 08:11:39
Message: <47cfed8b@news.povray.org>

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> how everything works.  Changes that are quick to implement will be given a 
> priority, but even if ideas can't be fully implemented immediately (due to 
> time constraints), they can still contribute to future plans.

From the top of my head:
- have a "what's new list" of the last 10 entries (with thumbnails and 
links)
- have a panel (a left or right sidebar for instance) with the full list of 
categories.

G.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Browse whole collection option, please
Date: 6 Mar 2008 09:15:26
Message: <47cffc7e@news.povray.org>
Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> I've updated the main button to read 'Search/Browse' instead of just 
> 'Search'.

  Why can't there simply be a regular link which says "browse all entries"
or whatever?

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