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From: marciano
Subject: Getting started
Date: 25 Jul 2007 18:30:02
Message: <web.46a7ccfedf6f61bc42ce5db10@news.povray.org>
Hello.
I've just downloaded POV-Ray.
From 'Getting started'
"|Starting POV-Ray rendering any scene file is as simple as opening the file
via the File menu. Then go to the Render menu and start rendering. By
default POV-Ray will write an image to disk to the same folder as the scene
file you rendered|"

I file-open cylinder1.pov and go to Render menu -> all options are light
grey  -> cannot render
Then I try' Window-Render queue' and 'Add files to queue'
'Add POV-Ray text file(s) to render queue' is the title of the popup window.
 Cannot select any text file in Templates directory, all are ligth gray.
I do could add box.pov file to Render Queue
Perform "Start Render Queue"  -> box.pov text content is displayed
No render image is generated.

How it is supose to render any file?

I've set Render engine for G4, unmarked "allow rendering .pov files only"

Thank you in advance


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 05:38:42
Message: <46a86ba2$1@news.povray.org>
"marciano" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.46a7ccfedf6f61bc42ce5db10@news.povray.org...
> Hello.
> I've just downloaded POV-Ray.
> From 'Getting started'
> "|Starting POV-Ray rendering any scene file is as simple as opening the 
> file
> via the File menu. Then go to the Render menu and start rendering. By
> default POV-Ray will write an image to disk to the same folder as the 
> scene
> file you rendered|"
>
> I file-open cylinder1.pov and go to Render menu -> all options are light
> grey  -> cannot render
> Then I try' Window-Render queue' and 'Add files to queue'
> 'Add POV-Ray text file(s) to render queue' is the title of the popup 
> window.
> Cannot select any text file in Templates directory, all are ligth gray.
> I do could add box.pov file to Render Queue
> Perform "Start Render Queue"  -> box.pov text content is displayed
> No render image is generated.
>
> How it is supose to render any file?
>
> I've set Render engine for G4, unmarked "allow rendering .pov files only"
>
> Thank you in advance
>

Hi Marciano,

Somehow your posting seems to have become attached to the end of Lhainel's 
'Getting Started' thread in the newsgroup. I'm guessing you did a 'Reply 
Group' instead of a 'New Post'. As a consequence you'll find that a lot less 
people will have read your question because people tend not to pay so much 
attention to old threads.

To get to the bottom of your problem it would be handy to indicate which 
version of POV-Ray you downloaded. There is a beta-test version 3.7 on the 
go at the moment, but if you're new to POV-Ray you should be running the 
latest established 3.6 version. It would also be handy to know what platform 
you're on. I would guess it's one of the Windows operating systems. Where 
people have reported on this news group having menu options greyed out in 
the past I think that it has largely resulted from problems with the 
installation leaving environment variables that don't correctly point to 
required directories.

If the installation worked ok, then you should be able to open POV-Ray and 
select the 'Render' menu option 'Run demo' and it should render an image in 
a pop-up window on the screen, writing information about the work that it's 
done into the Messages tab in the main window.

Loading a file like cylinder1.pov into the Windows version of POV-Ray should 
display it's contents (in this case a camera setting and a few simple 
objects). You should then be able to select 'Render', 'Start rendering' or 
hit the 'Run' icon which is a green circle containing a representation of a 
running man. Once again this should pop-up a window and render the image 
into it while reporting on progress into the Messages tab.

Hope this helps. If not I'd recommend starting a new thread with a bit more 
detail about platform, version, etc.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 05:58:56
Message: <46a87060$1@news.povray.org>
Chris B nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/26 05:38:
> "marciano" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
> news:web.46a7ccfedf6f61bc42ce5db10@news.povray.org...
>> Hello.
>> I've just downloaded POV-Ray.
>> From 'Getting started'
>> "|Starting POV-Ray rendering any scene file is as simple as opening the 
>> file
>> via the File menu. Then go to the Render menu and start rendering. By
>> default POV-Ray will write an image to disk to the same folder as the 
>> scene
>> file you rendered|"
>>
>> I file-open cylinder1.pov and go to Render menu -> all options are light
>> grey  -> cannot render
>> Then I try' Window-Render queue' and 'Add files to queue'
>> 'Add POV-Ray text file(s) to render queue' is the title of the popup 
>> window.
>> Cannot select any text file in Templates directory, all are ligth gray.
>> I do could add box.pov file to Render Queue
>> Perform "Start Render Queue"  -> box.pov text content is displayed
>> No render image is generated.
>>
>> How it is supose to render any file?
>>
>> I've set Render engine for G4, unmarked "allow rendering .pov files only"
>>
>> Thank you in advance
>>
> 
> Hi Marciano,
> 
> Somehow your posting seems to have become attached to the end of Lhainel's 
> 'Getting Started' thread in the newsgroup. I'm guessing you did a 'Reply 
> Group' instead of a 'New Post'. As a consequence you'll find that a lot less 
> people will have read your question because people tend not to pay so much 
> attention to old threads.
> 
> To get to the bottom of your problem it would be handy to indicate which 
> version of POV-Ray you downloaded. There is a beta-test version 3.7 on the 
> go at the moment, but if you're new to POV-Ray you should be running the 
> latest established 3.6 version. It would also be handy to know what platform 
> you're on. I would guess it's one of the Windows operating systems. Where 
> people have reported on this news group having menu options greyed out in 
> the past I think that it has largely resulted from problems with the 
> installation leaving environment variables that don't correctly point to 
> required directories.
> 
> If the installation worked ok, then you should be able to open POV-Ray and 
> select the 'Render' menu option 'Run demo' and it should render an image in 
> a pop-up window on the screen, writing information about the work that it's 
> done into the Messages tab in the main window.
> 
> Loading a file like cylinder1.pov into the Windows version of POV-Ray should 
> display it's contents (in this case a camera setting and a few simple 
> objects). You should then be able to select 'Render', 'Start rendering' or 
> hit the 'Run' icon which is a green circle containing a representation of a 
> running man. Once again this should pop-up a window and render the image 
> into it while reporting on progress into the Messages tab.
> 
> Hope this helps. If not I'd recommend starting a new thread with a bit more 
> detail about platform, version, etc.
> 
> Regards,
> Chris B.
> 
> 
He mentioned "G4", so, he's on a Mac.
There is still no beta for the Mac = using V3.6.x.
I have no knowlege about the Mac version, so I can't offer more help.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
   A girl phoned me and said, "Come on over. There's nobody home." I Went over. 
Nobody was home!
	Rodney Dangerfield


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 06:13:49
Message: <46a873dd$1@news.povray.org>
"Alain" <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message 
news:46a87060$1@news.povray.org...
> Chris B nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/26 05:38:
>>... snip ... It would also be handy to know what platform you're on. I 
>>would guess it's one of the Windows operating systems. ... snip ...
> He mentioned "G4", so, he's on a Mac.
> There is still no beta for the Mac = using V3.6.x.
> I have no knowlege about the Mac version, so I can't offer more help.
>
> -- 
> Alain

Aghh. Shows how long its been since I used a Mac. Sigh...

ChrisB.


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From: marciano
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 09:50:01
Message: <web.46a8a67fe79adcf3152945570@news.povray.org>
Thanks to all of you.
I don't understand where my post is located.
The route above indicates :  POV-Ray :  POV-Ray : Newsgroups :
povray.newusers : Getting started
Should I repost?
I installed the last available version and installed on a Mac G4/400  1Gb
Ram OS 10.4.9
Thank you again


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 12:09:18
Message: <46a8c72e@news.povray.org>
"marciano" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.46a8a67fe79adcf3152945570@news.povray.org...
> Thanks to all of you.
> I don't understand where my post is located.
> The route above indicates :  POV-Ray :  POV-Ray : Newsgroups :
> povray.newusers : Getting started


Yes. That's where it appears. 'povray.newusers' is the newsgroup. 'Getting 
started' is a message posted by Lhainel and the messages under that are 
responses to his question. Unless my newsgroup reader is screwed up it looks 
like you posted a response to Lhainel's post, whereas you'd have been better 
off posting a new message.

> Should I repost?

By starting a new thread you're likely to get more readers and therefore a 
better range and quality of response.

As you can tell I don't know the Mac version, but I'd recommend first maybe 
having a go at re-installing it, taking care to check that there are no 
nasty error messages from the installation. Then, if the Mac version has a 
'Render' menu option 'Run demo', try that and see what happens. Otherwise 
load a POV file and try 'Render', 'Start rendering' or maybe there's a 'Run' 
icon.

You may also wish to take a look at the mac newsgroup at 
http://news.povray.org/./povray.macintosh/
I see there are some discussions there about installation problems, greyed 
out file options, setting the path to the include directory etc.

> I installed the last available version and installed on a Mac G4/400  1Gb

So that would be 3.6.??

> Ram OS 10.4.9
> Thank you again
>

If that still doesn't work you might try posting a new message here or on 
povray.macintosh. You could still call it 'Getting started' or maybe 
'Getting started on Mac', and I'd recommend saying that you're on a Mac 
G4/400 on OS 10.4.9 running POV-Ray 3.6.?? and describing what happens when 
you try to 'Run demo' or 'Start rendering' (or that you can't because 
they're still greyed out).

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 17:08:27
Message: <46a90d4b$1@news.povray.org>
Chris B nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/26 12:09:
> "marciano" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
> news:web.46a8a67fe79adcf3152945570@news.povray.org...
>> Thanks to all of you.
>> I don't understand where my post is located.
>> The route above indicates :  POV-Ray :  POV-Ray : Newsgroups :
>> povray.newusers : Getting started
> 
> 
> Yes. That's where it appears. 'povray.newusers' is the newsgroup. 'Getting 
> started' is a message posted by Lhainel and the messages under that are 
> responses to his question. Unless my newsgroup reader is screwed up it looks 
> like you posted a response to Lhainel's post, whereas you'd have been better 
> off posting a new message.

Thunderbird show this thread as a new thread, distinct from any other older 
thread. Maybe OutlookExpress only rely on the name to link posts to a given thread.

> 
>> Should I repost?
> 
> By starting a new thread you're likely to get more readers and therefore a 
> better range and quality of response.
> 
> As you can tell I don't know the Mac version, but I'd recommend first maybe 
> having a go at re-installing it, taking care to check that there are no 
> nasty error messages from the installation. Then, if the Mac version has a 
> 'Render' menu option 'Run demo', try that and see what happens. Otherwise 
> load a POV file and try 'Render', 'Start rendering' or maybe there's a 'Run' 
> icon.

Installing on a Mac is prety simple: You drag the application to the application 
folder. To uninstall, you drag the application off of the application folder.

> 
> You may also wish to take a look at the mac newsgroup at 
> http://news.povray.org/./povray.macintosh/
> I see there are some discussions there about installation problems, greyed 
> out file options, setting the path to the include directory etc.

This should be the best place to look.

> 
>> I installed the last available version and installed on a Mac G4/400  1Gb
> 
> So that would be 3.6.??
> 
>> Ram OS 10.4.9
>> Thank you again
>>
> 
> If that still doesn't work you might try posting a new message here or on 
> povray.macintosh. You could still call it 'Getting started' or maybe 
> 'Getting started on Mac', and I'd recommend saying that you're on a Mac 
> G4/400 on OS 10.4.9 running POV-Ray 3.6.?? and describing what happens when 
> you try to 'Run demo' or 'Start rendering' (or that you can't because 
> they're still greyed out).
> 
> Regards,
> Chris B.
> 
> 


-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government
fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson


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From: marciano
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 17:10:01
Message: <web.46a90cf1e79adcf3152945570@news.povray.org>
Mmmmm.  I think there is a problem with the program of this forum. I also
had started a new thread called "Getting started".  I did not open that old
thread and I do no see it here (Safari-Mac). Just a warning.
In Mac there's no installation.  Unzip and copy foder to applications.
I'll try to download it again


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 17:30:34
Message: <46a9127a@news.povray.org>
"marciano" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.46a90cf1e79adcf3152945570@news.povray.org...
> Mmmmm.  I think there is a problem with the program of this forum. I also
> had started a new thread called "Getting started".  I did not open that 
> old
> thread and I do no see it here (Safari-Mac). Just a warning.

Ah. It may just be Microsoft Outlook Express messing with me.


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: Getting started
Date: 26 Jul 2007 19:21:37
Message: <46a92c81@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
> Chris B nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/26 12:09:
> 
>> "marciano" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
>> news:web.46a8a67fe79adcf3152945570@news.povray.org...
>>
>>> Thanks to all of you.
>>> I don't understand where my post is located.
>>> The route above indicates :  POV-Ray :  POV-Ray : Newsgroups :
>>> povray.newusers : Getting started
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes. That's where it appears. 'povray.newusers' is the newsgroup. 
>> 'Getting started' is a message posted by Lhainel and the messages 
>> under that are responses to his question. Unless my newsgroup reader 
>> is screwed up it looks like you posted a response to Lhainel's post, 
>> whereas you'd have been better off posting a new message.
> 
> 
> Thunderbird show this thread as a new thread, distinct from any other 
> older thread. Maybe OutlookExpress only rely on the name to link posts 
> to a given thread.
> 

That's odd...  My Thunderbird also has it attached to the Lhainel thread 
as others have stated.

(And no, I don't know anything about the Mac either.  But I do run both 
Windows and Linux versions.)

      -=- Larry -=-


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