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From: Simon
Subject: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 19 Jun 2007 16:43:57
Message: <4678400d$1@news.povray.org>
...when I was looking for an idea for an animation, so here ya go:


The below link is to a flash video. The quality is _ok_ but not shattering. 
You can download the full quality clip (12MB) using the link below this 
one...
http://www.soware.co.uk/POVRay/player.php?filename=Gallery/Rain.flv

http://www.soware.co.uk/POVRay/Original/Rain.avi <-- The rain looks meuch 
better on this one.

Ironically, I was searching the 'net for rain/thunder sounds while I had a 
thunder storm going on outside but no decent quality microphone to record 
it.

As always, please give me feedback and opinions - The more you suggest, the 
better I can do next time


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 19 Jun 2007 16:45:17
Message: <4678405d$1@news.povray.org>
Oh and the tombstones do have "R.I.P." engraved on them but it's not 
visible - I did start off by using media to make the lettering glow but it 
looked awful - most likely as I'm currently incapable of making a glow 
effect work properly :) any input on that would be appreciated too...


"Simon" <povray@*NOSPAM*SOWare.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> ...when I was looking for an idea for an animation, so here ya go:
>
>
> The below link is to a flash video. The quality is _ok_ but not 
> shattering. You can download the full quality clip (12MB) using the link 
> below this one...
> http://www.soware.co.uk/POVRay/player.php?filename=Gallery/Rain.flv
>
> http://www.soware.co.uk/POVRay/Original/Rain.avi <-- The rain looks meuch 
> better on this one.
>
> Ironically, I was searching the 'net for rain/thunder sounds while I had a 
> thunder storm going on outside but no decent quality microphone to record 
> it.
>
> As always, please give me feedback and opinions - The more you suggest, 
> the better I can do next time
>


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From: Grassblade
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 20 Jun 2007 14:25:01
Message: <web.467970be6a461fd8d6a97ce40@news.povray.org>
"Simon" <povray@*NOSPAM*SOWare.co.uk> wrote:
> As always, please give me feedback and opinions - The more you suggest, the
> better I can do next time
It looks good. It reminds me a lot of 80's adventure games, like Morteveille
Manor, and several Lucasarts games. Actually it reminds me of a specific
game the name of which escapes me. The lightning effect is very suggestive,
but I would give it a blue/white hue; there is much too much green IMO at
the moment when lightning strikes.


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 20 Jun 2007 14:41:11
Message: <467974c7$1@news.povray.org>
True. The lightning is mostly white so the green grass gives that effect - I
need to change that

The one it made me think of was Maniac Mansion by Sierra - Good ol' ScummVM
:)

Ideally, I'd like to make the curtains blow but I'm a little unsure how I
can pull that off - it's obv not a matter of rotation, I need them to
"billow" - I'll see what I can come up with :)

Thanks for the input!
-S


"Grassblade" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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> "Simon" <povray@*NOSPAM*SOWare.co.uk> wrote:
>> As always, please give me feedback and opinions - The more you suggest, 
>> the
>> better I can do next time
> It looks good. It reminds me a lot of 80's adventure games, like 
> Morteveille
> Manor, and several Lucasarts games. Actually it reminds me of a specific
> game the name of which escapes me. The lightning effect is very 
> suggestive,
> but I would give it a blue/white hue; there is much too much green IMO at
> the moment when lightning strikes.
>
>
>
>


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From: William Tracy
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 20 Jun 2007 17:33:58
Message: <46799d46$1@news.povray.org>
Simon wrote:
> Ironically, I was searching the 'net for rain/thunder sounds while I had a 
> thunder storm going on outside but no decent quality microphone to record 
> it.

I don't hear any sound in the video, so I'll assume that you didn't have 
any luck.

You might try the Freesound project:
http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php

All Creative Commons licensed sounds. It's a mixed bag, but sometimes 
you'll find exactly what you need. :-)

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William Tracy
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From: Simon
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 21 Jun 2007 12:51:38
Message: <467aac9a$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks very much for that - I'll see what I canf ind. Unfortunately my Mic 
is supposed to be noise cancelling and actualyl does it pretty well (I 
believe it ahs 2 mic's and inverts the output from one before mixnig them - 
thus embient should be cancelled out but directional should not)

The upshot fo all that is: VERY VERY QUIET rain... For the record, I also 
decide that since a thunder roll was a few seconds long and the video is 
abuot 12 secs, it might eb a bit too much. Ofc, sound would help the 
realism...

That said, I've already found some useful stuff on that link - thank you.

"William Tracy" <wtr### [at] calpolyedu> wrote in message 
news:46799d46$1@news.povray.org...
> Simon wrote:
>> Ironically, I was searching the 'net for rain/thunder sounds while I had 
>> a thunder storm going on outside but no decent quality microphone to 
>> record it.
>
> I don't hear any sound in the video, so I'll assume that you didn't have 
> any luck.
>
> You might try the Freesound project:
> http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php
>
> All Creative Commons licensed sounds. It's a mixed bag, but sometimes 
> you'll find exactly what you need. :-)
>
> -- 
> William Tracy
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> You know you've been raytracing too long when you think it's a failing of 
> the universe that the large software companies like Corel or Fractal 
> Design do NOT export to POV primitives.
> George Erhard


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 21 Jun 2007 19:48:12
Message: <467b0e3c$1@news.povray.org>
Simon nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/06/21 12:50:
> Thanks very much for that - I'll see what I canf ind. Unfortunately my Mic 
> is supposed to be noise cancelling and actualyl does it pretty well (I 
> believe it ahs 2 mic's and inverts the output from one before mixnig them - 
> thus embient should be cancelled out but directional should not)
> 
> The upshot fo all that is: VERY VERY QUIET rain... For the record, I also 
> decide that since a thunder roll was a few seconds long and the video is 
> abuot 12 secs, it might eb a bit too much. Ofc, sound would help the 
> realism...
> 
> That said, I've already found some useful stuff on that link - thank you.
> 
When you try to record ambient sounds with a soise canselling mic, you can try 
wraping your hands around it, leaving only the front showing. That way, your 
hands will muffle the sound coming from the sides and the rear. If it work OK, 
you can make a foam envelope or a casing with a directional opening.

-- 
Alain
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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to
remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson


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From: Marc
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 22 Jun 2007 07:09:21
Message: <467bade1@news.povray.org>

467b0e3c$1@news.povray.org...
> When you try to record ambient sounds with a soise canselling mic, you can 
> try wraping your hands around it, leaving only the front showing. That 
> way, your hands will muffle the sound coming from the sides and the rear. 
> If it work OK, you can make a foam envelope or a casing with a directional 
> opening.
>
Not really sure it works : a noise cancelling mike is usually a pair of 
adjacent inverted phase cells, it takes close sources ( i.e. closer to the 
'main' cell, so there is a difference) and cancels remote sources because 
the sound tends to be equal on both cells.
I'm not sure either if you can muffle a thunder with your mere hands :-).
A simple solution is to purchase a simple microphone, there are a lot of 
not expensive yet rather good electrets models.
I may have some thunders recorded somewhere. I'll have a look at my backups.

Marc


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From: Simon
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 22 Jun 2007 13:30:43
Message: <467c0743$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks, I'd appreciate that!

"Marc" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
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>

> 467b0e3c$1@news.povray.org...
>> When you try to record ambient sounds with a soise canselling mic, you 
>> can try wraping your hands around it, leaving only the front showing. 
>> That way, your hands will muffle the sound coming from the sides and the 
>> rear. If it work OK, you can make a foam envelope or a casing with a 
>> directional opening.
>>
> Not really sure it works : a noise cancelling mike is usually a pair of 
> adjacent inverted phase cells, it takes close sources ( i.e. closer to the 
> 'main' cell, so there is a difference) and cancels remote sources because 
> the sound tends to be equal on both cells.
> I'm not sure either if you can muffle a thunder with your mere hands :-).
> A simple solution is to purchase a simple microphone, there are a lot of 
> not expensive yet rather good electrets models.
> I may have some thunders recorded somewhere. I'll have a look at my 
> backups.
>
> Marc
>


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From: Marc
Subject: Re: 'twas a dark and stormy night... (WIP)
Date: 22 Jun 2007 13:56:09
Message: <467c0d39$1@news.povray.org>

467c0743$1@news.povray.org...
> Thanks, I'd appreciate that!
 Unfortunately, I did not find them but I found some samples by google.
I fiddled a 12s loop that fits roughly with your avi file.
If I could decipher your mail adress I could send it to you :-)

Marc


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