Are there any good modelers for new users?

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Mark E. Deardorff <med### [at] coxnet> wrote:
> Are there any good modelers for new users? 

  Yes. Google for moray.

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                                                          - Warp

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> Mark E. Deardorff <med### [at] coxnet> wrote:
> > Are there any good modelers for new users?
>
>   Yes. Google for moray.
>
> -- 
>                                                           - Warp

I agree!  :-)
Note : what follows is NOT an advertisement lol
Note again : Moray is a shareware : you may try it free but you are friendly
invited to register it after some times (it is worth the EUR 80)
http://www.stmuc.com/moray/
I 'm using Moray for some years now and I think it is a new-user-friendly
yet powerfull tool.
Since I know this soft, none of my images was done without Moray
For new users :
You can design POV simple (spheres, cones, boxes, torus, etc) or complex
(prism, lathe, bicubic patch, superellipsoid) primitives and CSG simply by
mouse and/or parameter fields
A cool material editor allows you to use yet done or create nice materials
and preview them
A render settings tab takes you by the hand through anti-alias, image
resolution,...
AND for advanced users :
Some plugins allow script (SDL or Scene Description Language, ie the
language POVRay understands) coding (this plugin allows you to write POV
(SDL) code in a Moray scene)
http://www.lightning-generator.org/download.php?op=getit&lid=122
 or easy includes use with transformations.
http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?PovInclude
quote: "POVInclude is a Moray plugin that allows a POV-Ray include file to
be directly included in a Moray model. A visual indication of where the
included objects will appear can be supplied which shows in the Moray
views."


Remember though POV is left handed (y up, z depth) while Moray is right
handed (z up, y depth) but -Moray export pov file- copes with that with a
special camera declaration ( which demonstrates once again SDL power :)
BTW, learning SDL is a plus: you'd skip a very powerful tool if you forget
it.
Regards
Marc

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Warp wrote:
> Mark E. Deardorff <med### [at] coxnet> wrote:
> 
>>Are there any good modelers for new users? 
> 
> 
>   Yes. Google for moray.
> 

or Google for "modelers povray"...

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Jeff Houck <jho### [at] cableonenet> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Mark E. Deardorff <med### [at] coxnet> wrote:
> >
> >>Are there any good modelers for new users?
> >
> >
> >   Yes. Google for moray.
> >
>
> or Google for "modelers povray"...



Yes: MORAY is definately one of the best modellers for POV-RAY out there.
I've tried several and it is the best for "your money"

woodcarver

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Thanks for all the help!
"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
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>

> news:42b39e6f@news.povray.org...
>> Mark E. Deardorff <med### [at] coxnet> wrote:
>> > Are there any good modelers for new users?
>>
>>   Yes. Google for moray.
>>
>> -- 
>>                                                           - Warp
>
> I agree!  :-)
> Note : what follows is NOT an advertisement lol
> Note again : Moray is a shareware : you may try it free but you are 
> friendly
> invited to register it after some times (it is worth the EUR 80)
> http://www.stmuc.com/moray/
> I 'm using Moray for some years now and I think it is a new-user-friendly
> yet powerfull tool.
> Since I know this soft, none of my images was done without Moray
> For new users :
> You can design POV simple (spheres, cones, boxes, torus, etc) or complex
> (prism, lathe, bicubic patch, superellipsoid) primitives and CSG simply by
> mouse and/or parameter fields
> A cool material editor allows you to use yet done or create nice materials
> and preview them
> A render settings tab takes you by the hand through anti-alias, image
> resolution,...
> AND for advanced users :
> Some plugins allow script (SDL or Scene Description Language, ie the
> language POVRay understands) coding (this plugin allows you to write POV
> (SDL) code in a Moray scene)
> http://www.lightning-generator.org/download.php?op=getit&lid=122
> or easy includes use with transformations.
> http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?PovInclude
> quote: "POVInclude is a Moray plugin that allows a POV-Ray include file to
> be directly included in a Moray model. A visual indication of where the
> included objects will appear can be supplied which shows in the Moray
> views."
>
>
> Remember though POV is left handed (y up, z depth) while Moray is right
> handed (z up, y depth) but -Moray export pov file- copes with that with a
> special camera declaration ( which demonstrates once again SDL power :)
> BTW, learning SDL is a plus: you'd skip a very powerful tool if you forget
> it.
> Regards
> Marc
>
>

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> > BTW, learning SDL is a plus: you'd skip a very powerful tool if you forget
> > it.
please don't hurt me for offering my two cents here, but i think u should
avoid moray for a while and persevere with p-ray on it's own.
Don't underestimate bare-bones stuff. I do all sorts of fun stuff and i'm
still not interested in using anything but P-Ray. Yes, you can maybe get
the same kind of work much faster, but it pays to remember the basics and
*then* learn bigger stuff (e.g moray). I have seen too many ppl get so used
to moray, that they don't even bother using p-ray on its own. moray is good
for complex scenes, and will definitely improve your renders in the
short-term, but unless you start mastering basics, in the long-term, you
will start to get lazy, and will no longer appreiciate the skill involved
in rendering :D
note: i have nothing against moray users - i just feel that jumping into
moray too quickly takes away the appreciation of what your work is doing.
not only that, but doing things the "hard" way helps your understanding of
the render - most people seem to have develop good spatial awareness - i
can "image" ideas in my head, think the locations, and how I'll make the
objects. And I usually get the positions not too far off. so, as a
guideline, I won't be starting with moray for at least 2 years experience
time (i have about 1yr. to go :D)

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