I have the same problem in os 9 as Daniel MacLeod... 3.5 had not ever
seemed to work out for me... I thought it was all the beta testing but
now that it is finished and still has bugs i am sticking to the Mega Pov
version with the 3.1 giu interface... Everything works... =]

In system 10.1.5 everything seems to work except the partial render is
always black... ?? Very frustrating... =[
Not to mention i can not change the templates at all the import/export
menu items are always shaded... ??

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... =[

Oh well i always have my old friend Mega Pov with the mac gui... =]

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> In system 10.1.5 everything seems to work except the partial render is
> always black... ?? Very frustrating... =[
> Not to mention i can not change the templates at all the import/export
> menu items are always shaded... ??

I had this similar problem with 10.1.5. But since I am using povray 3.5
under classic environment, everything is running smoothly (It does run ok
under os 10.1.5, but that slow rendering I can't take it). And I don't have
any problems running povray 3.5 under OS 9.2.

That is really weird.

Best Regards

Fidel.

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in article 3D8ED661.B1AFAAC0@earthlink.net, Ryan Mooney at
rdm### [at] earthlinknet wrote on 23/9/02 6:22 PM:

> I have the same problem in os 9 as Daniel MacLeod... 3.5 had not ever
> seemed to work out for me... I thought it was all the beta testing but
> now that it is finished and still has bugs i am sticking to the Mega Pov
> version with the 3.1 giu interface... Everything works... =]
> 
> In system 10.1.5 everything seems to work except the partial render is
> always black... ?? Very frustrating... =[
> Not to mention i can not change the templates at all the import/export
> menu items are always shaded... ??
> 
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... =[
> 
> Oh well i always have my old friend Mega Pov with the mac gui... =]
> 

at least i know i'm not the only one. i might download an earlier version
until i get OS X.

d_

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In article <3D8ED661.B1AFAAC0@earthlink.net> , Ryan Mooney 
<rdm### [at] earthlinknet>  wrote:

> Not to mention i can not change the templates at all the import/export
> menu items are always shaded... ??

Well, that is because you are running 10.1.5.  Just use 10.2 or 8.6/9.x with
CarbonLib 1.6.,  It is required for the Template Window to show up, and once
the Template Window is there you can use the importing.

    Thorsten

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> I have the same problem in os 9 as Daniel MacLeod... 3.5 had not ever
> seemed to work out for me... I thought it was all the beta testing but
> now that it is finished and still has bugs i am sticking to the Mega Pov
> version with the 3.1 giu interface... Everything works... =]

Me too!  Pov 3.5 won't work right so i'm sticking with Mega Pov until it do.

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in article B9B7D13E.66D3%gle### [at] isrvcom, Glenn Greenway at
gle### [at] isrvcom wrote on 26/9/02 10:16 AM:

>> I have the same problem in os 9 as Daniel MacLeod... 3.5 had not ever
>> seemed to work out for me... I thought it was all the beta testing but
>> now that it is finished and still has bugs i am sticking to the Mega Pov
>> version with the 3.1 giu interface... Everything works... =]
> 
> Me too!  Pov 3.5 won't work right so i'm sticking with Mega Pov until it do.
> 
just for those people who don't know whats happening, i've attached a
screenshot of the problem window (that's affecting mine anyway). maybe this
is just something that happens on macs that only have 9.2.2 installed and
not OSX running classic?

the front window is the one that is causing the problems. I can't get it to
stop and when I try and quit, the program freezes so I have to force-quit.

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In article <B9B94DC1.338%d_@mbox.com.au> , Daniel MacLeod <d_@mbox.com.au>
wrote:

> just for those people who don't know whats happening, i've attached a
> screenshot of the problem window (that's affecting mine anyway). maybe this
> is just something that happens on macs that only have 9.2.2 installed and
> not OSX running classic?
>
> the front window is the one that is causing the problems. I can't get it to
> stop and when I try and quit, the program freezes so I have to force-quit.

So you are running with the Kaleidoscope extension; and I guess plus a ton
of other 3rd party extensions that mess around with the system.....?

    Thorsten

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in article 3d932184@news.povray.org, Thorsten Froehlich at tho### [at] trfde
wrote on 27/9/02 12:32 AM:

> In article <B9B94DC1.338%d_@mbox.com.au> , Daniel MacLeod <d_@mbox.com.au>
> wrote:
> 
>> just for those people who don't know whats happening, i've attached a
>> screenshot of the problem window (that's affecting mine anyway). maybe this
>> is just something that happens on macs that only have 9.2.2 installed and
>> not OSX running classic?
>> 
>> the front window is the one that is causing the problems. I can't get it to
>> stop and when I try and quit, the program freezes so I have to force-quit.
> 
> So you are running with the Kaleidoscope extension; and I guess plus a ton
> of other 3rd party extensions that mess around with the system.....?
> 
> Thorsten
> 
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich
> e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
> 
> I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
> Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

yes but i have run it with the extension managers "Mac OS 9.0 all" and "base
configs and it makes no difference. even if it did, there is no mention
anywhere on the site about there being any know conflicts so i would hope i
could run a couple of third party extensions (namely kaleidoscope, ATM and
one for read win95 filenames) without it not working when no other appz seem
to have any problems

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hi all,

with 3.5 build 0170 (jul, 8 2002), on MacOS FU1-8.6 and CarbonLib FU1-1.6
i have no "templates windows". why ?
(templates are ok in windows menu of course).

any idea ?

thanks

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In article <3d93f695$1@news.povray.org> , "louis" 
<nos### [at] groupe-ufgcom> wrote:

> with 3.5 build 0170 (jul, 8 2002), on MacOS FU1-8.6 and CarbonLib FU1-1.6
> i have no "templates windows". why ?
> (templates are ok in windows menu of course).

You have to open it yourself.

    Thorsten

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No one mentioned the problem with the partial render being black in os
10.1.5... =]
I did mention that did i not... ??? Well i did now... =]

Ryan =]

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This is the same problem i have in os 9.2.1 and i have little or no extra
extensions... =]

I recommend Mega Pov by Smellenbergh...

HERE ->>
http://mac.povray.org/redirect.php3/*http://users.skynet.be/smellenbergh/

I Prefer the old 3.1g GUI interface version that i bugged on about before someone
finally chopped up the code for me and a few others that preferred the old
interface but with Mega patches... -=] The other version is good too it was just
too much like a windows application for me... =]

Ryan =]

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A few hours ago I noticed that there was a more recent Pov-ray available.
What I had was Build 170, which worked nicely except for two small things -
that I had to restart the program after every render to be able to use the
templates, and that it left "Memory.log"-files everywhere.
Thinking that those two problems perhaps was fixed, I trashed the 170 and
downloaded Build 173. I regret that now.

So far I've tried to make 10-12 test renders, using simple scenes from the
included scene-folder. No luck.
Either it stop the render halfway down, with no other way to exit than to
do a force-quit. Or it renders the whole picture, but then refuses to stop
anyway - the progress bar keeps spinning and leave no other option than to
do a force quit.

I'm using a iBook G3. Swedish system 9.2.2, CarbonLib 1.6.

I wonder, is it possible to put up Build 170 once again on the pov-site?

-Tom Stone

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its probably in an archive somewhere... ??
i am sticking with Mega pov until the official is less sticky and more smooth
and solid... ??
official 3.1g was such a smooth running application... I am sad to see 3.5
falling short of its predecessor... my main reason for sticking with Pov for
so long was its ease of download and play unlike some many downloadeable
programs it had virtually no problems... =]

Ryan... [=

Tom Stone wrote:

> A few hours ago I noticed that there was a more recent Pov-ray available.
> What I had was Build 170, which worked nicely except for two small things -
> that I had to restart the program after every render to be able to use the
> templates, and that it left "Memory.log"-files everywhere.
> Thinking that those two problems perhaps was fixed, I trashed the 170 and
> downloaded Build 173. I regret that now.
>
> So far I've tried to make 10-12 test renders, using simple scenes from the
> included scene-folder. No luck.
> Either it stop the render halfway down, with no other way to exit than to
> do a force-quit. Or it renders the whole picture, but then refuses to stop
> anyway - the progress bar keeps spinning and leave no other option than to
> do a force quit.
>
> I'm using a iBook G3. Swedish system 9.2.2, CarbonLib 1.6.
>
> I wonder, is it possible to put up Build 170 once again on the pov-site?
>
> -Tom Stone

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In article <3D9B1CED.D7912C10@earthlink.net> , Ryan Mooney 
<rdm### [at] earthlinknet>  wrote:

> its probably in an archive somewhere... ??
> i am sticking with Mega pov until the official is less sticky and more smooth
> and solid... ??
> official 3.1g was such a smooth running application... I am sad to see 3.5
> falling short of its predecessor... my main reason for sticking with Pov for
> so long was its ease of download and play unlike some many downloadeable
> programs it had virtually no problems... =]

Yes, complaining is sooooo easy.

May I remind you how much you helped in finding those problems also you
could have?  Your own words:

> From: Ryan Mooney
> Subject: Re: abyss.pov freeze =[
> Date: 6 Jan 2002 07:41:45 EST
>
> thanks for the links... i knew it was old news about the text and syntax
> but like i said im lazy... Thanks again... =]
> Yes Abyss.pov crashes all the time... When i first dl'ed the 3.5 beta it
> was the first file i tried to render... Frustrated i threw 3.5 away... I
> see now that is is only a problem with this one file (so far)... =[ I run
> OS 9.2 on a brand new iBook 600mhz...?? I will probably use mega till 3.5
> runs smoothly... =\

    Thorsten

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Hello Thorsten,

I found build 170 on a back-up disc I made a while ago, so now I'm back in
business again :-)

Any clue on what the problem might be with build 173?
I wish I could provide you with a more thourough bug-report, but since I get no
further than what I've mentioned in my previous message, I have little else to
say.

Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
Tom Stone

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Like i said i have downloaded programs before that had promise but failed to
function on first attempt... They are in the trash... I am hoping that mac pov
does not become something with promise but ends up in the trash pail... =[
Someone once said to me that sometimes companies like to make things new, but
when they are made new that they are "no good" or are not as good as they were
before... =]
Simple but true... =]

Me... =]

Ryan Mooney wrote:

> its probably in an archive somewhere... ??
> i am sticking with Mega pov until the official is less sticky and more smooth
> and solid... ??
> official 3.1g was such a smooth running application... I am sad to see 3.5
> falling short of its predecessor... my main reason for sticking with Pov for
> so long was its ease of download and play unlike some many downloadeable
> programs it had virtually no problems... =]
>
> Ryan... [=
>
> Tom Stone wrote:
>
> > A few hours ago I noticed that there was a more recent Pov-ray available.
> > What I had was Build 170, which worked nicely except for two small things -
> > that I had to restart the program after every render to be able to use the
> > templates, and that it left "Memory.log"-files everywhere.
> > Thinking that those two problems perhaps was fixed, I trashed the 170 and
> > downloaded Build 173. I regret that now.
> >
> > So far I've tried to make 10-12 test renders, using simple scenes from the
> > included scene-folder. No luck.
> > Either it stop the render halfway down, with no other way to exit than to
> > do a force-quit. Or it renders the whole picture, but then refuses to stop
> > anyway - the progress bar keeps spinning and leave no other option than to
> > do a force quit.
> >
> > I'm using a iBook G3. Swedish system 9.2.2, CarbonLib 1.6.
> >
> > I wonder, is it possible to put up Build 170 once again on the pov-site?
> >
> > -Tom Stone

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> This is the same problem i have in os 9.2.1 and i have little or no extra
> extensions... =]

Hi Ryan,

I am using Mac OS X 10.1.5 and I don't have any problems running povray 3.5.
The only annoying thing is how slow it is during rendering.
As for OS 9.2.1, I don't have any problems either. It is running flawlessly.

Anyway, hope you guys sort that problems.

All the best

Fidel.

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In article <3D9B6F99.2D9A1A4A@swipnet.se> , Tom Stone <tom### [at] swipnetse>
wrote:

> I wish I could provide you with a more thourough bug-report, but since I get
> no further than what I've mentioned in my previous message, I have little else
> to say.
>
> Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

Not at the moment.  I will let you know when there is.

    Thorsten

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in 10.1.5 i cannot render a partial render... =]
Its all black... Only a full render... =]

Fidel viegas wrote:

> > This is the same problem i have in os 9.2.1 and i have little or no extra
> > extensions... =]
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I am using Mac OS X 10.1.5 and I don't have any problems running povray 3.5.
> The only annoying thing is how slow it is during rendering.
> As for OS 9.2.1, I don't have any problems either. It is running flawlessly.
>
> Anyway, hope you guys sort that problems.
>
> All the best
>
> Fidel.

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