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From: kurtz le pirate
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 15 Jun 2025 13:16:53
Message: <684f0005$1@news.povray.org>
On 15/06/2025 03:36, GioSeregni wrote:

> unfortunately there is a redirect that leads to spam or worse!
> 
> 


??? No, it's a normal safe site.



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kurtz le pirate
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From: jr
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 15 Jun 2025 13:50:00
Message: <web.684f0702ce24a8bb3ecaab5e6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

kurtz le pirate <kur### [at] freefr> wrote:
> On 15/06/2025 03:36, GioSeregni wrote:
>
> > unfortunately there is a redirect that leads to spam or worse!
> >
> ??? No, it's a normal safe site.
>
> --
> kurtz le pirate
> compagnie de la banquise

fwiw, when I visited I got shown a "captcha" to confirm "not robot", which led
to a second popup asking me to "allow" something or other.  "normal" ?  no.
(perhaps you could (re)post those macros ?)


regards, jr.


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From: GioSeregni
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 15 Jun 2025 16:00:00
Message: <web.684f25e9ce24a8bbc3bb525659126100@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> kurtz le pirate <kur### [at] freefr> wrote:
> > On 15/06/2025 03:36, GioSeregni wrote:
> >
> > > unfortunately there is a redirect that leads to spam or worse!
> > >
> > ??? No, it's a normal safe site.
> >
> > --
> > kurtz le pirate
> > compagnie de la banquise
>
> fwiw, when I visited I got shown a "captcha" to confirm "not robot", which led
> to a second popup asking me to "allow" something or other.  "normal" ?  no.
> (perhaps you could (re)post those macros ?)
>
>
> regards, jr.

the site get your permission for bombing false notification of mcafee "warning
you have a virus etc etc..."
do not clik over those links...

on chrome it had a hard time blocking the source of the fake notifications that
try to make you click somewhere
you find news on the web about this spam...


about macros? no , I don't use macro, but exe. Now it's impossible to post exe
without registration ... too much false positives by antivirus. so I'm trying to
figure out how long it lasts and if it's expensive to register the apps
BR!
G.


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From: GioSeregni
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 15 Jun 2025 21:30:00
Message: <web.684f7262ce24a8bbc3bb525659126100@news.povray.org>
> > fwiw, when I visited I got shown a "captcha" to confirm "not robot", which led
> > to a second popup asking me to "allow" something or other.  "normal" ?  no.
> > (perhaps you could (re)post those macros ?)

sorry, I didn't understand, there is no macro on that site, there is only
garbage. I was curious about your link and downloaded the page ( without making
it work in the browser!!!) that they injected into geocities.ws. Name chosen for
fishing, it was a site known many many years ago.
This is the malicious code of that page, one shot and I blurred it on purpose.
I hope, also from what I found on the web, that it didn't do me any harm, it
only managed to make me targeted by the bombardment of fake notifications, WHICH
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T CLICK ON.
Guys, stay away from that fake geocities page


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 16 Jun 2025 03:43:22
Message: <684fcb1a@news.povray.org>
Op 15/06/2025 om 19:46 schreef jr:
> hi,
> 
> kurtz le pirate <kur### [at] freefr> wrote:
>> On 15/06/2025 03:36, GioSeregni wrote:
>>
>>> unfortunately there is a redirect that leads to spam or worse!
>>>
>> ??? No, it's a normal safe site.
>>
>> --
>> kurtz le pirate
>> compagnie de la banquise
> 
> fwiw, when I visited I got shown a "captcha" to confirm "not robot", which led
> to a second popup asking me to "allow" something or other.  "normal" ?  no.
> (perhaps you could (re)post those macros ?)
> 
> 
> regards, jr.
> 
I got to the site by way of the "Wayback Machine" somehow, without any 
fuss or problems, and I am well-protected online. The John VanSickle 
contribution (he should be mentioned as the original author!) dates from 
2008 which probably contributes to the problems.

I attach here a zip file with the macros, plus a pdf file of the 
original text on the site. Guaranteed no spam or other beasties ;-)

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Thomas


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From: GioSeregni
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 16 Jun 2025 04:45:00
Message: <web.684fd944ce24a8bbc3bb525659126100@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 15/06/2025 om 19:46 schreef jr:
> > hi,
> >
> > kurtz le pirate <kur### [at] freefr> wrote:
> >> On 15/06/2025 03:36, GioSeregni wrote:
> >>
> >>> unfortunately there is a redirect that leads to spam or worse!
> >>>
> >> ??? No, it's a normal safe site.
> >>
> >> --
> >> kurtz le pirate
> >> compagnie de la banquise
> >
> > fwiw, when I visited I got shown a "captcha" to confirm "not robot", which led
> > to a second popup asking me to "allow" something or other.  "normal" ?  no.
> > (perhaps you could (re)post those macros ?)
> >
> >
> > regards, jr.
> >
> I got to the site by way of the "Wayback Machine" somehow, without any
> fuss or problems, and I am well-protected online. The John VanSickle
> contribution (he should be mentioned as the original author!) dates from
> 2008 which probably contributes to the problems.
>
> I attach here a zip file with the macros, plus a pdf file of the
> original text on the site. Guaranteed no spam or other beasties ;-)
>
> --
> Thomas
https://www.urlvoid.com/scan/geocities.ws/


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From: jr
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 16 Jun 2025 08:05:00
Message: <web.68500753ce24a8bb3ecaab5e6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"GioSeregni" <gms### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> I explain my working method.

you use more sophisticated s/wares than me :-).


> Each layer represents a component, obviously it has its own color. Here I have
> activated ALL the layers, but obviously I hide the ones I am not working on.
> It is a very practical method. For example, I can disable everything and leave
> only the red lights visible, or the bodywork. From the CAD with my tools I can
> output in many formats, preserving the information on the color and
> transparency, because they are the name of the layer.
> What I have to do is implement in the layer name, which declares RGB and ALPHA,
> also the name of the object. So that in the povray file you can easily treat the
> "finish" by identifying the object. For example, on the bodywork, apply its own
> non-standard level of reflection.
>
> Each layer, when the parser creates its mesh, contains one and only one. In this
> way I can decide if the parser creates it with triangle or smooth triangle. It
> depends on the object, if it has to be tapered.

interesting.  I still think (well, "gut feeling" :-)) that having mesh and
colour/transparency data separate, to be "re-united" perhaps at a later point,
would make working with the (basic) objects so much easier.

also, as you'll be working on the export functionality, perhaps "plan for the
future" and namespace your objects ?  Cousin Ricky posted[*] a pretty neat
summary of "the rules" for making POV-Ray include files "live together happily".

[*] <news.povray.org/64014f55%40news.povray.org>


regards, jr.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 16 Jun 2025 08:05:00
Message: <web.68500761ce24a8bb3ecaab5e6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 15/06/2025 om 19:46 schreef jr:
> > kurtz le pirate <kur### [at] freefr> wrote:
> >> On 15/06/2025 03:36, GioSeregni wrote:
> >>> unfortunately there is a redirect that leads to spam or worse!
> >> ??? No, it's a normal safe site.
> > fwiw, when I visited I got shown a "captcha" to confirm "not robot", which led
> > to a second popup asking me to "allow" something or other.  "normal" ?  no.
> > (perhaps you could (re)post those macros ?)
> >
> I got to the site by way of the "Wayback Machine" somehow, without any
> fuss or problems, and I am well-protected online.

neat idea.


> The John VanSickle
> contribution (he should be mentioned as the original author!) dates from
> 2008 which probably contributes to the problems.
>
> I attach here a zip file with the macros, plus a pdf file of the
> original text on the site. Guaranteed no spam or other beasties ;-)

thanks, I hope GS will/can make use of those, as KlP suggested.  (while I too
will "take a look", I guess it'll be, um, "mathematical" :-))


regards, jr.


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From: kurtz le pirate
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 16 Jun 2025 10:56:17
Message: <68503091@news.povray.org>
On 15/06/2025 21:58, GioSeregni wrote:
> 
> the site get your permission for bombing false notification of mcafee "warning
> you have a virus etc etc..."
> do not clik over those links...
> 
> on chrome it had a hard time blocking the source of the fake notifications that
> try to make you click somewhere
> you find news on the web about this spam...
> 

Try using a properly configured real browser.
And results from https://www.urlvoid.com/scan/geocities.ws/ is for le 
whole geocities.ws.

The first result by ThreatLog engine say that
geocities.ws/escortsinbilaspur/ contain Spam/Scam/Fraud.
Nothing to do withevilsnack/c2s3.html

Second result from ZeroCERT engine seems to be a fake page.
The real ZeroCERT site's domain is ORG, not COM...

All the others mention nothing *dangerous*

But now we're out of the charter and it's no longer POV's concern.




> about macros? no , I don't use macro, but exe. Now it's impossible to post exe
> without registration ... too much false positives by antivirus. so I'm trying to
> figure out how long it lasts and if it's expensive to register the apps
> BR!
> G.

I've included a screenshot of the page that appears with this URL

Thanks to Thomas for posting the c2s3.zip.






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kurtz le pirate
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From: GioSeregni
Subject: Re: A little help about old vers.
Date: 16 Jun 2025 22:55:00
Message: <web.6850d8adce24a8bb6196d32759126100@news.povray.org>
I assure you that I suffered a code injection while there was a "prove that you
are not a robot" loop.
A loop that evidently affects only Chrome, and predisposes it to receive false
aggressive notifications every time you open Chrome. However, I managed to block
them via Chrome's site blocking.
I could see the original page for half a second, then it was injected with spam.
Now I saw the includes you posted.
It is a known algorithm, I already have it, with other algorithms, on MeshLab
(see shot).
With MeshLab the transformation can be done on the 3D file. It is persistent.
The includes only do it for the PovRay render.
I need persistent, because I use the same files for 3D printing. So I thank you
but the "static" transformation method is preferable because the 3D file (povray
or STL or CAD) is already complete. Launched on PovRay it consumes infinitely
less memory. Too bad there is no example file in the zip, to see the results on
complex shapes, it also seems very complicated to implement it on each mesh of a
job.
He only shows the shot of a small job, but not how he passes the original
polygonal data to the includes.


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