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From: Frederico Lopes
Subject: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 14 Jul 2009 20:25:00
Message: <web.4a5d20c1eff2a24e190f9dc80@news.povray.org>
People,
I need to make a list of povray sites in Portuguese to show my students here in
Brazil. They cannot read English. Could you help me?
Many thanks!
Frederico Lopes


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 15 Jul 2009 02:41:36
Message: <4a5d7a20@news.povray.org>
"Frederico Lopes" <fre### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.4a5d20c1eff2a24e190f9dc80@news.povray.org...
> People,
> I need to make a list of povray sites in Portuguese to show my students 
> here in
> Brazil. They cannot read English. Could you help me?
> Many thanks!
> Frederico Lopes
>

On Google you can set your preferences to search for only websites written 
in Portuguese. There's even a Portuguese(Brazil) option. When you search for 
POVRay it returns about 8000 sites and about 2700 when you search for 
'povray tutorials'.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Frederico Lopes
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 15 Jul 2009 13:20:00
Message: <web.4a5e0f13a0ca2a002a358ff00@news.povray.org>
"Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> "Frederico Lopes" <fre### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
> news:web.4a5d20c1eff2a24e190f9dc80@news.povray.org...
> > People,
> > I need to make a list of povray sites in Portuguese to show my students
> > here in
> > Brazil. They cannot read English. Could you help me?
> > Many thanks!
> > Frederico Lopes
> >
>
> On Google you can set your preferences to search for only websites written
> in Portuguese. There's even a Portuguese(Brazil) option. When you search for
> POVRay it returns about 8000 sites and about 2700 when you search for
> 'povray tutorials'.
>
> Regards,
> Chris B.

Yes, I know. Sorry, but I did it before post the message here. What I found was
a mess of references, no one pointing to a good place. Not mention the broken
links. Believe me: only spheres, cylinders, torus... you know.
I know there are users here that speak Portuguese, and my hope is to contact
them and ask whether they can show me the light.
Nonetheless, I thank you so much for your attention!
Fred


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 15 Jul 2009 23:40:01
Message: <web.4a5ea0e1a0ca2a001ffbcf920@news.povray.org>


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From: Frederico Lopes
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 16 Jul 2009 09:05:01
Message: <web.4a5f245ba0ca2a00119a19c50@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:





Could anyone help us with links?

Fred


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From: Friedrich Lohmüller
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 16 Jul 2009 10:14:19
Message: <4a5f35bb$1@news.povray.org>
Frederico Lopes schrieb:
> "Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
>> "Frederico Lopes" <fre### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
>> news:web.4a5d20c1eff2a24e190f9dc80@news.povray.org...
>>> People,
>>> I need to make a list of povray sites in Portuguese to show my students
>>> here in
>>> Brazil. They cannot read English. Could you help me?
>>> Many thanks!
>>> Frederico Lopes
>>>
>> On Google you can set your preferences to search for only websites written
>> in Portuguese. There's even a Portuguese(Brazil) option. When you search for
>> POVRay it returns about 8000 sites and about 2700 when you search for
>> 'povray tutorials'.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris B.
> 
> Yes, I know. Sorry, but I did it before post the message here. What I found was
> a mess of references, no one pointing to a good place. Not mention the broken
> links. Believe me: only spheres, cylinders, torus... you know.
> I know there are users here that speak Portuguese, and my hope is to contact
> them and ask whether they can show me the light.
> Nonetheless, I thank you so much for your attention!
> Fred
> 


Catarina, Brasil.(pt)
  http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~awangenh/CG/index.html

  http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~awangenh/CG/raytracing/tutorial/
Sorry but these are the onyl pages I know from Brazil.

Friedrich

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From: pan
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 16 Jul 2009 14:09:13
Message: <4a5f6cc9$1@news.povray.org>
Frederico Lopes wrote:
>>>> People,
>>>> I need to make a list of povray sites in Portuguese to show my
>>>> students here in
>>>> Brazil. They cannot read English. Could you help me?
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>> Frederico Lopes

If you use Firefox, then at

  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=translate&cat=all

there is the "Unofficial Google Translate Firefox extension 1.3  by 
JimmyRcom"

This will translate using the google translator.
**** Clicked links will stay in the google translator.

Of course, you could just go to google language tools and skip the 
firefox addon.

At that addon page there might be a better tool.

hth


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From: Frederico Lopes
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 20 Jul 2009 09:15:01
Message: <web.4a646d3ba0ca2a0055116e820@news.povray.org>


> Catarina, Brasil.(pt)
>   http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~awangenh/CG/index.html

>   http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~awangenh/CG/raytracing/tutorial/
> Sorry but these are the onyl pages I know from Brazil.
>
> Friedrich

So do I. These pages are very known, and very basic. I'd say, the most advanced
in portuguese language.
As I see, there's no other way than build a site myself. Where to begin? Is
there a good "Table of Contents" you can show me?
Thank you again!
Fred


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Sites in Portuguese
Date: 20 Jul 2009 15:20:36
Message: <4a64c384@news.povray.org>
"Frederico Lopes" <fre### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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>> Catarina, Brasil.(pt)
>>   http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~awangenh/CG/index.html

>>   http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~awangenh/CG/raytracing/tutorial/
>> Sorry but these are the onyl pages I know from Brazil.
>>
>> Friedrich
>
> So do I. These pages are very known, and very basic. I'd say, the most 
> advanced
> in portuguese language.
> As I see, there's no other way than build a site myself. Where to begin? 
> Is
> there a good "Table of Contents" you can show me?
> Thank you again!
> Fred
>

I'm trying to think a little bit laterally here, so you may have considered 
or discounted these ideas already:

1:  You could build a list of tutorials that translate well when using 
Google Translate (or your preferred Internet translation service). e.g. 
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=fr&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imagico.de%2Fpov%2Fray_tutorial.html

Clearly there'll be a lot of variation in how well different sites 
translate. This will be compounded by the problems of it translating things 
you don't want it to translate, such as code samples, so your students would 
need two Browser windows open side-by-side to see the uncorrupted code 
samples alongside the translated text (unless you wanted to put in the extra 
work described below).

You'd probably have to look at quite a few sites to build a shortlist, but 
you could obviously focus on the sites covering the specific topics you have 
chosen to teach. The site above by Christoph Hormann is good for beginners 
and is well written and looks to me as though it translates reasonably well 
(I don't read Portuguese, but the automatic French translation looked pretty 
good to me).


2:  I came across an interesting feature with the Google translation site 
when I copied and pasted the translated content into an HTML editor (e.g. 
OpenOffice Writer). It pasted the original text followed by the translated 
text, (along with any graphics and hyperlinks of course). If there is a 
tutorial of particular interest you may therefore find it quite quick to cut 
and paste the web page, proofread and correct the translation, removing the 
English text, but leaving the examples in their original form, by removing 
translated code samples.

This of course would be subject to any appropriate copyright constraints or 
consents.

It's worth noting that the POV-Ray Wiki is under the Creative Commons 
Attribution-Noncommercial-ShareAlike license, which authorises modification 
and redistribution. So that is one potential source for this sort of 
material where you wouldn't need to go through the time-consuming process of 
obtaining consent from individual contributors. The following How To's have 
so far been completed there:

    * How to: Use constructive solid geometry
    * How to: Use conditional structures
    * How to: Use macros and loops
    * How to: Turn a function into a stepped function

For example, see 
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=pt&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.povray.org%2Fcontent%2FHowTo%3AUse_conditional_structures
and you can try cutting and pasting the content into a word processor on 
your machine to make sure it works the same using whatever Browser, Word 
Processor and Operating System you've got.

There are some incomplete pages on the Wiki that you may nevertheless find 
useful. For example: 'HowTo:Create animations'

Regards,
Chris B.


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