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From: AcademicMedicine
Subject: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 11 May 2009 09:30:03
Message: <web.4a08275d689e57ac7a3f36f70@news.povray.org>
We are currently writing a scientific paper on treatment of traumatic brain
injury and we are hoping to include a schematic illustration of the brain and
invasive monitoring techniques in intensive care. Unfortunately, our limited
skills and the limited possibilities of programs like adobe illustrator only
allow for a poor quality illustration. We have fairly specific ideas of what to
include in the figure and could give detailed advice on the anatomy. Your
contribution would of course be acknowledged, but we cannot pay for help.
 Is anybody interested in contributing?

 Thanks,

 Tobias


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 11 May 2009 14:33:46
Message: <4a086f8a$3@news.povray.org>
This is a call to the 3D artists of our community, as I understand.

What are the frame conditions of this co-operation? And what is the salary?
Also, do you want to be able to highly certain regions of this 3D brain
model while other parts are temporarily transparent? Please let us know.
Thanks.


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 11 May 2009 18:11:51
Message: <4a08a2a7$1@news.povray.org>
Sven Littkowski wrote:

> And what is the salary?

what's so unclear about "we cannot pay for help"? ;)


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 11 May 2009 18:22:31
Message: <4a08a527$1@news.povray.org>
It may be rather difficult to find someone just doing it for
you. You could also try to do it yourself, and will certainly
get help here when encountering any problems.

Also, do you already have any data available such as
3D models of the brain or monitoring devices?


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 11 May 2009 20:41:11
Message: <4a08c5a7$1@news.povray.org>
Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> It may be rather difficult to find someone just doing it for
> you. You could also try to do it yourself, and will certainly
> get help here when encountering any problems.

I would hope that there may be some POV-Ray users here who would consider doing
it for the challenge/interest/achievement. I wouldn't class finding someone as
"rather difficult", though that doesn't mean of course that they will.

Is there someone here who would volunteer their time?

[NB Tobias originally wrote to me directly, and I pointed him here.]

-- Chris


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 11 May 2009 23:55:01
Message: <web.4a08f1f877a79046f50167bc0@news.povray.org>
I have an idea (for someone here who is good at working with df3 files, which
I'm not): Somewhere on-line is the very detailed 'digitized human cadaver'
model, made from CAT-scans (or similar MRI scans) of a thinly-sliced, frozen
human. There's much that I don't know about that project, but *if* it is freely
accessible, and *if* the scans can be converted into df3 files, and *if* the
brain scans come as a separate group--then an accurate brain model could be
built in POV-Ray, without having to do the modeling itself. Does anyone have
more information on this?

Ken W.


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 12 May 2009 02:55:00
Message: <web.4a091c0b77a79046f50167bc0@news.povray.org>
"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> I have an idea (for someone here who is good at working with df3 files, which
> I'm not): Somewhere on-line is the very detailed 'digitized human cadaver'
> model, made from CAT-scans (or similar MRI scans) of a thinly-sliced, frozen
> human.

I found it; here's the site...

http://www.crd.ge.com/esl/cgsp/projects/vm/

It's called the "Visible Human" project. (I need to re-familiarize myself with
the details, to see if any of my suggestions are worthwhile.)

KW


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 12 May 2009 07:32:23
Message: <4a095e47$1@news.povray.org>
"AcademicMedicine" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
news:web.4a08275d689e57ac7a3f36f70@news.povray.org...
>  Is anybody interested in contributing?

I was investigating this:
http://fly.mpi-cbg.de/~saalfeld/df3.html

for other purposes (clouds) but got diverted onto something else and never
made much progress, so all I can offer is that above link .... perhaps
someone else can have a look

Jim


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 12 May 2009 07:48:29
Message: <4a09620d$1@news.povray.org>
AcademicMedicine wrote:
> We are currently writing a scientific paper on treatment of traumatic brain
> injury and we are hoping to include a schematic illustration of the brain and
> invasive monitoring techniques in intensive care. Unfortunately, our limited
> skills and the limited possibilities of programs like adobe illustrator only
> allow for a poor quality illustration. We have fairly specific ideas of what to
> include in the figure and could give detailed advice on the anatomy. Your
> contribution would of course be acknowledged, but we cannot pay for help.
>  Is anybody interested in contributing?
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Tobias
> 
> 
I am interested enough to see what you need.  If I thought I could add 
value and meet your deadlines I would do some work.

-Jim


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From: nicefellow
Subject: Re: help with illustration of brain injury
Date: 12 May 2009 15:45:00
Message: <web.4a09cf2077a79046cb1054160@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> AcademicMedicine wrote:
> > We are currently writing a scientific paper on treatment of traumatic brain
> > injury

well, really cool stuff

>>and we are hoping to include a schematic illustration of the brain and
> > invasive monitoring techniques in intensive care. Unfortunately, our limited
> > skills and the limited possibilities of programs like adobe illustrator only
> > allow for a poor quality illustration. We have fairly specific ideas of what >>to
> > include in the figure and could give detailed advice on the anatomy. Your
> > contribution would of course be acknowledged, but we cannot pay for help.
> >  Is anybody interested in contributing?

 i think there are people interested, unfortunately i just got pov dont know
how to use it very well,

> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >  Tobias
> >
> >
> I am interested enough to see what you need.  If I thought I could add
> value and meet your deadlines I would do some work.
>
> -Jim


i hope jim does get to help you, jim keep up the fine spirit .

mike


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