Hello DEvelopment-Team:

ad: povwin-3.7.beta.11b

Will there be some version above the latest (EXPIRED) beta ?????????????

Or do we have to step back to 3.6 ??????


Or is the development halted by the license discussion????


Please give a statement of the future of povray ...

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Spota wrote:
> Please give a statement of the future of povray ...

Be patient. There is something like real life.

	Thorsten

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Spota wrote:
> Hello DEvelopment-Team:
> 
> ad: povwin-3.7.beta.11b
> 
> Will there be some version above the latest (EXPIRED) beta ?????????????

If you've been around for previous POV betas (I think I've seen every 
one of them since 3.0 in 96), this is quite normal.  Releasing a new 
beta compile just because some time has passed isn't necessarily a good 
idea.  Rather, a new beta will be released when significant changes have 
occurred.

The developers have lives outside of POV-Ray.  If you'd like to pay one 
of them a competitive salary to work full-time on 3.7, I'm sure you'd be 
able to get a new version much sooner :)

...Chambers

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"Chambers" <bdc### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> Spota wrote:
> > Hello DEvelopment-Team:
> >
> > ad: povwin-3.7.beta.11b
> >
> > Will there be some version above the latest (EXPIRED) beta ?????????????
>
> If you've been around for previous POV betas (I think I've seen every
> one of them since 3.0 in 96), this is quite normal.  Releasing a new
> beta compile just because some time has passed isn't necessarily a good
> idea.  Rather, a new beta will be released when significant changes have
> occurred.
>
> The developers have lives outside of POV-Ray.  If you'd like to pay one
> of them a competitive salary to work full-time on 3.7, I'm sure you'd be
> able to get a new version much sooner :)
>
> ...Chambers

So what exactly is the point of an expiry date then?  If it didn't have one,
no problems!

Cheers Dre

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So buggy beta copies don't continue to circulate

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"Dre" <bla### [at] somewherecom> wrote:
> "Chambers" <bdc### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
> news:43e29f94$1@news.povray.org...
> > Spota wrote:
> > > Hello DEvelopment-Team:
> > >
> > > ad: povwin-3.7.beta.11b
> > >
> > > Will there be some version above the latest (EXPIRED) beta ?????????????
> >
> > If you've been around for previous POV betas (I think I've seen every
> > one of them since 3.0 in 96), this is quite normal.  Releasing a new
> > beta compile just because some time has passed isn't necessarily a good
> > idea.  Rather, a new beta will be released when significant changes have
> > occurred.
> >
> > The developers have lives outside of POV-Ray.  If you'd like to pay one
> > of them a competitive salary to work full-time on 3.7, I'm sure you'd be
> > able to get a new version much sooner :)
> >
> > ...Chambers
>
> So what exactly is the point of an expiry date then?  If it didn't have one,
> no problems!
>
> Cheers Dre

Betas are just that, betas for evaluation and bug-fixes.  As bugs are fixed,
new betas come out.  At that time, there is no point in having the previous
versions still available as they will still have the bugs, hence there is
an expiry date.  However, because of the timing constraints of the
programmers, the new beta is not always ready when the old one expires.
But this shouldn't cause a problem as they are only meant for beta testing
and not really for regular usage.  If you want to use POV regularly and not
for beta testing then use 3.6 and wait for 3.7 to be ready.

-tgq

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"Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> "Dre" <bla### [at] somewherecom> wrote:
> > "Chambers" <bdc### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
> > news:43e29f94$1@news.povray.org...
> > > Spota wrote:
> > > > Hello DEvelopment-Team:
> > > >
> > > > ad: povwin-3.7.beta.11b
> > > >
> > > > Will there be some version above the latest (EXPIRED) beta
?????????????
> > >
> > > If you've been around for previous POV betas (I think I've seen every
> > > one of them since 3.0 in 96), this is quite normal.  Releasing a new
> > > beta compile just because some time has passed isn't necessarily a
good
> > > idea.  Rather, a new beta will be released when significant changes
have
> > > occurred.
> > >
> > > The developers have lives outside of POV-Ray.  If you'd like to pay
one
> > > of them a competitive salary to work full-time on 3.7, I'm sure you'd
be
> > > able to get a new version much sooner :)
> > >
> > > ...Chambers
> >
> > So what exactly is the point of an expiry date then?  If it didn't have
one,
> > no problems!
> >
> > Cheers Dre
>
> Betas are just that, betas for evaluation and bug-fixes.  As bugs are
fixed,
> new betas come out.  At that time, there is no point in having the
previous
> versions still available as they will still have the bugs, hence there is
> an expiry date.  However, because of the timing constraints of the
> programmers, the new beta is not always ready when the old one expires.
> But this shouldn't cause a problem as they are only meant for beta testing
> and not really for regular usage.  If you want to use POV regularly and
not
> for beta testing then use 3.6 and wait for 3.7 to be ready.
>
> -tgq
>
>
Hmmmm, I've been using betas for ages, and Pov is the only one I've used
with an expiry.

Doesn't tend to bother me much as I use 3.6 anyway, but I did find it a pain
when it ran out to put eveything back to 3.6...

Re the old versions stil lbeing available, why would you want to d/l an old
version of something when there is a newer one available?!?!?

It all doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

Cheers Dre

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"Skip Talbot" <Ski### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> So buggy beta copies don't continue to circulate

Fair, but why would you want to d/l an old version of something when there
is a newer one available?

Cheers Dre

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Dre wrote:
> Fair, but why would you want to d/l an old version of something when there
> is a newer one available?

Because the older one is more suited for the job.  Moray users still use 
POV 3.5 because 3.6 doesn't work with it.  I have a low opinion of 
people who absolutely must use the absolute latest unstable xyz just 
because its newer.  (Particularly when the use is for making something 
intended for public distribution)

-- 
Tim Cook
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-empyrean

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"Tim Cook" <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote in message
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> Dre wrote:
> > Fair, but why would you want to d/l an old version of something when
there
> > is a newer one available?
>
> Because the older one is more suited for the job.  Moray users still use
> POV 3.5 because 3.6 doesn't work with it.  I have a low opinion of
> people who absolutely must use the absolute latest unstable xyz just
> because its newer.  (Particularly when the use is for making something
> intended for public distribution)

Sorry, I was talking about beta versions only above, not full releases...

Cheers Dre

>
> -- 
> Tim Cook
> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-empyrean
>
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> Version: 3.12
> GFA dpu- s: a?-- C++(++++) U P? L E--- W++(+++)>$
> N++ o? K- w(+) O? M-(--) V? PS+(+++) PE(--) Y(--)
> PGP-(--) t* 5++>+++++ X+ R* tv+ b++(+++) DI
> D++(---) G(++) e*>++ h+ !r--- !y--
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

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