Hi,

Just thought I'd drop a line here to say congrats to Gilles Tran for getting one of
his images
on the cover of this months 3D World mag, and also congrats to me, 'cos I got my
Evening Hills
pic printed in the Exhibition section too.

Merry Christmas,

Andy Cocker

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Congrats from me too! It's the good' old "cow looking into a refrigerator".
A thumbnail can be found here: http://www.3dworldmag.com/

Regards,
Hugo

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Andy Cocker wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just thought I'd drop a line here to say congrats to Gilles Tran for getting one of
his images
> on the cover of this months 3D World mag, and also congrats to me, 'cos I got my
Evening Hills
> pic printed in the Exhibition section too.

Congratulations.  The title picture looks very nice, do they write 
anything about it?

Christoph

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>
> Just thought I'd drop a line here to say congrats to Gilles Tran for
getting one of his images
> on the cover of this months 3D World mag, and also congrats to me, 'cos I
got my Evening Hills
> pic printed in the Exhibition section too.

Congrats Andrew!

Here's a link to the magazine with a close up of the image.
http://www.3dworldmag.com/
It's my "Cool cows" image flipped horizontally. I had to re-render the texts
(labels) to do this without re-rendering the whole image.

Notice the irony: a POV-Ray image is used to sell Maya, AfterEffects,
Lightwave and the rest.

There should be a couple of lines with "POV-Ray" in it though (on page 3 I
presume, but I haven't received the magazine yet).

For Russian readers, the Russian magazine "Home PC" (http://www.homepc.ru)
issues of October and December are sprinkled with Oyonale pics (with my
permission). Initially it was just to illustrate a story about the ZKM media
center in Germany (where Xfrog was born) but the editors got carried away.

There'll be a cover for a German computer science journal too, to be
published later.

G.



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> Merry Christmas,
>
> Andy Cocker
>
>

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> 
> Here's a link to the magazine with a close up of the image.
> http://www.3dworldmag.com/
> It's my "Cool cows" image flipped horizontally. I had to re-render the texts
> (labels) to do this without re-rendering the whole image.
> 
> Notice the irony: a POV-Ray image is used to sell Maya, AfterEffects,
> Lightwave and the rest.

Yes, when reading:

"Issue 47 also contains the first part of our new series of beginners' 
tutorials. Over the next six months, we'll be showing you how to model, 
texture, light and animate a complete 3D scene, with all the necessary 
software and project files provided on the cover CD."

i already thought that it would be completely unrealistic of me to 
assume this refers to a POV-Ray tutorial...

> There'll be a cover for a German computer science journal too, to be
> published later.

Care to tell the name of the journal?

Christoph

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> > There'll be a cover for a German computer science journal too, to be
> > published later.
>
> Care to tell the name of the journal?

It's Informatik-Spektrum. I suppose that it will (again) be about a paper
related to Xfrog. The accompanying text, however, will contain a technical
description mentionning POV-Ray and particularly radiosity and isosurfaces.

I realise that I forgot to tell that the November issue of the German 3d
magazine Creative Live contained my "Dark side of the trees" image (about
the Xfrog plug-in for C4D and co - this is getting weird). Pretty
impressive: they did a full page with a detail of the pic and the impression
was top notch. No mention of POV-Ray though (just a link to my site).

G.

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> No mention of POV-Ray though (just a link to my site).

I can't understand why they fail to mention POV-Ray since it's a vital key
to the images you create. They all seem to tone it down?  If it was my
images, I would demand a notion to POV.

Regards,
Hugo

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> 
> It's Informatik-Spektrum. I suppose that it will (again) be about a paper
> related to Xfrog. The accompanying text, however, will contain a technical
> description mentionning POV-Ray and particularly radiosity and isosurfaces.

Great, do you know which issue it will appear in?  For those who are 
interested:

http://link.springer.de/link/service/journals/00287/index.htm

> I realise that I forgot to tell that the November issue of the German 3d
> magazine Creative Live contained my "Dark side of the trees" image (about
> the Xfrog plug-in for C4D and co - this is getting weird). Pretty
> impressive: they did a full page with a detail of the pic and the impression
> was top notch. No mention of POV-Ray though (just a link to my site).

You probably should not be astonished about this.  The german market of 
popular magazines on technical stuff is anything but independent - quite 
understandable since they make most money from selling advertisement 
space and they need to maintain good relations to those companies that 
pay for these.  I did not actually see what they wrote but of course it 
is really quite questionable to feature such an image in a magazine that 
is about 3D software among other things and simply 'forget' to mention 
the software used to generate the image.

Christoph

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> I can't understand why they fail to mention POV-Ray since it's a vital key
> to the images you create. They all seem to tone it down?  If it was my
> images, I would demand a notion to POV.

Sometimes it's already hard to be credited at all, so crediting the renderer
itself has a low priority for magazine editors, unless the article deals
specifically with a particular renderer or compares renderers. It does make
sense, because 3D artists tend to use a lot of tools, the renderer being
only one of them. Even for my images, the tools "shown off" could also be
Xfrog, Poser, Rhino etc. which are commercial ones and more known to the
readers.
The images in 3Dmag and Informatik-Spektrum are/will be clearly labelled as
POV-Ray ones however.

G.
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> pay for these.  I did not actually see what they wrote but of course it
> is really quite questionable to feature such an image in a magazine that
> is about 3D software among other things and simply 'forget' to mention
> the software used to generate the image.

As I said, the article was about xfrog and the picture featured thousands of
xfrog plants, so that was, at least, not totally abnormal that the emphasis
was on this software and not on POV-Ray. Something similar happened to me
with Poser some time ago.

About the technical magazines: I suppose that's true everywhere and that
there's no such thing as an 100% (or even 20%...) independent tech mag. In
the case of Creative Live, I was told that they had some strong links with
Maxon, the makers of C4D (can't verify this now).

G.

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