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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: web interface doesn't work without cookies (was: Re: elastic cube, pov code, 800 kB)
Date: 17 May 2002 04:14:01
Message: <3ce4bbc9$1@news.povray.org>
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"Lutz-Peter Hooge" <lpv### [at] gmx de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:MPG.174e6a9c62ca769c989701@news.povray.org...
> In article <pan### [at] moravia-itcom>,
> ger### [at] moravia-itcom says...
>
> > With the current Mozilla I can't even access the http news interface.
> >
> > The "Enter the newsgroups" button simply doesn't do a thing...
>
> Oh, it does. It tries to set a cookie, but fails since you disabled it,
> than tries to read it, fails, and redirects you back on the "Enter the
> Newsgroups" page... (at least thats what I think it does)
There used to be a welcome message that explained that cookies.
Unfortuantely that message was "lost" very recently and we have not yet
recovered a copy of it...
Thorsten Froehlich, POV-Team
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: web interface doesn't work without cookies
Date: 17 May 2002 04:28:30
Message: <3ce4bf2e@news.povray.org>
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> to write copies on CD-ROM for off-line and easy navigation during travel ?
All good newsreaders can do this as well.
Be advised that downloading lots of pages via a browser site archiving
feature is possible if it supports cookies, but it will be slower as the
number of page views per user and minute is limited (and locking the cookie
won't help).
Thorsten
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:30:23 +0200, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> > to write copies on CD-ROM for off-line and easy navigation during travel ?
>
> All good newsreaders can do this as well.
yes, my newsreader can do this, but ask typical outlook user how he copy his
folder to different machine ? I suppose he usually download it from server
insted local copying
> Be advised that downloading lots of pages via a browser site archiving
> feature is possible if it supports cookies
sure, everything can be hacked,
ABX
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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: web interface doesn't work without cookies (was: Re: elastic cube, pov code, 800 kB)
Date: 17 May 2002 12:01:52
Message: <3ce52970@news.povray.org>
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> On Fri, 17 May 2002 08:21:43 +0100, "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com>
wrote:
>> why go to all that trouble when they could just harvest directly
>> from the newsgroups
>
> that's too difficoult for some people
> and html has nice browsers with bookmarks
it took me seconds to find (via google) an idiot proof, wizard based tool to
rip email addresses from newsgroups. if you know how to email lots of people
you will have no problem getting software to help you email even more.
--
Rick
Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com
POV-Ray News & Resources - http://Povray.co.uk
TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 16:55:08 +0100, "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote:
> it took me seconds to find (via google) an idiot proof, wizard based tool to
> rip email addresses from newsgroups. if you know how to email lots of people
> you will have no problem getting software to help you email even more.
Everything can be hacked. Does it mean non of cures should be used?
I have much more spam to e-mails used in webpages than used in news.
ABX
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 02:17:51 +0200, Lutz-Peter Hooge wrote:
> In article <pan### [at] moravia-itcom>,
> ger### [at] moravia-itcom says...
>
>> With the current Mozilla I can't even access the http news interface.
>>
>> The "Enter the newsgroups" button simply doesn't do a thing...
>
> Oh, it does. It tries to set a cookie, but fails since you disabled it,
> than tries to read it, fails, and redirects you back on the "Enter the
> Newsgroups" page... (at least thats what I think it does)
>
> This is not a problem with Mozilla, but with cookies.
>
> To the creators of the web-interface: Why is this config-page necessary
> anyway?
> IMO it should just display the newsgroups with the default settings if it
> doesn't find a cookie and have just an OPTIONAL link somewhere to the
> config-page.
>
> xpost & f'up2 povray.general
I've been unable to access the web interface over the last couple of days,
as it happens I've also been working on a CGI scrpt that uses cookies and
I can confirm that cookies seem to be working properly in Mozilla, but the
POV news web interface isn't.
--
sphere{z*5,1pigment{rgb.5}finish{reflection.3specular.5}}box{<-50,-3,-50>
<50,-2,50>pigment{checker/*\__\\__/ * \_\\__*/scale 2}finish{ambient.7}}
light_source/*__\\__\\__\\__\\__\( ~ )\__\\__\\__\\__\\*/{<2,5,1>*4,1}
/*\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\~ -/__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\*//* Steve */
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 05:15:56 +0200, Lutz-Peter Hooge wrote:
> In article <pan### [at] moravia-itcom>,
> ger### [at] moravia-itcom says...
>
>> I have all cookies enabled. But the problem is quite possibly on my side,
>> especially if others are able to use the interface with Mozilla.
>
> With cookies it works for me (Moz. RC2), without it works neither with
> Mozilla nor Opera, so I assumed that was you Problem, too.
Cookies enabled and working Mozilla 1.0 RC2, but news web interface not
working for me (as mentioned in post above).
--
%HAV-A-NICEDAY email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet
Steve web http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
6:52pm up 28 days, 15:33, 1 user, load average: 1.06, 1.06, 1.07
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In article <slr### [at] zeroppsorguk>,
ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet says...
> Cookies enabled and working Mozilla 1.0 RC2, but news web interface not
> working for me (as mentioned in post above).
Maybe some time ago you refused a cookie from news.povray.org and had
Mozilla set to "remember this decision"?
Lutz-Peter
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In article <rlaaeuc5g3n326g32lu5hrs62bda32n88b@4ax.com>, abx### [at] babilonorg
says...
> Everything can be hacked. Does it mean non of cures should be used?
But this "cure" is a really ugly one since it bannes innocent people who
just don't have cookies enabled from using the web interface, and also it
obviously sometimes causes problems with enabled cookies...
Such a "cures" should alway be server-side if possible
(like don't showing email adresses, and limit the number of pages a
client can request)
Lutz-Peter
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 20:14:12 +0200, Lutz-Peter Hooge wrote:
> In article <slr### [at] zeroppsorguk>,
> ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet says...
>
>> Cookies enabled and working Mozilla 1.0 RC2, but news web interface not
>> working for me (as mentioned in post above).
>
> Maybe some time ago you refused a cookie from news.povray.org and had
> Mozilla set to "remember this decision"?
This seems like a good sugestion so I checked it out and:
.news.povray.org TRUE /mynews/ FALSE 1336950802 POVWebNGSign
eJwDAAAAAAE%3D
.news.povray.org TRUE /post/ FALSE 1336950802 POVWebNGSign
eJwDAAAAAAE%3D
.news.povray.org TRUE / FALSE 1336950802 POVWebNGPrefs
1000%2C50%2C10%2Casc%2C2%2C1
%2C3%2C2%2C0%2C0%2C
.news.povray.org TRUE / FALSE 1336950802 POVWebNGTimer
-552614182.NTkxOWM5YjIyMWY5Z
TQ2YmNhNTIzNDg0ZjhjYzAzNjM%3D.MTAyMTU5MDgwMSwsLCws
Right at the end of my cookies file where I expected it to be, looks to me
like it's accepting them, but the pov server can't read them for some
reason (maybe they are being written incorrectly).
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sphere{z*5,1pigment{rgb.5}finish{reflection.3specular.5}}box{<-50,-3,-50>
<50,-2,50>pigment{checker/*\__\\__/ * \_\\__*/scale 2}finish{ambient.7}}
light_source/*__\\__\\__\\__\\__\( ~ )\__\\__\\__\\__\\*/{<2,5,1>*4,1}
/*\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\~ -/__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\*//* Steve */
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