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I realize that by discussing megapov, I should rightfully
be posting on "povray.unofficial.patches". Sorry in advance. I
am posting here in "povray.general" because I expect a larger
readership in "povray.general".
I have noticed that a great deal of the message traffic
here on the povray news servers currently deals with "mega pov",
am unofficial hacked-up derviative of povray, and "iso-surfaces",
a feature that is very interesting, but is not in the Official
version of povray. In fact, out of the last 200-ish messages that
I read, only 30 did not mention iso-surfaces or megapov!!!!
This is very frustrating.
Is there a version of Megapov for the Amiga? I have
searched for it and it seems that there is none but I wanted to
check here (where most of (all of?) the pov people seem to
"hang out") to make sure.
Pete
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since the source code is available, it has been compiled for a lot of
systems, but you'll have to ask nathan kopp about the amiga, or compile
it yourself.
Pete wrote:
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> I realize that by discussing megapov, I should rightfully
> be posting on "povray.unofficial.patches". Sorry in advance. I
> am posting here in "povray.general" because I expect a larger
> readership in "povray.general".
> I have noticed that a great deal of the message traffic
> here on the povray news servers currently deals with "mega pov",
> am unofficial hacked-up derviative of povray, and "iso-surfaces",
> a feature that is very interesting, but is not in the Official
> version of povray. In fact, out of the last 200-ish messages that
> I read, only 30 did not mention iso-surfaces or megapov!!!!
> This is very frustrating.
> Is there a version of Megapov for the Amiga? I have
> searched for it and it seems that there is none but I wanted to
> check here (where most of (all of?) the pov people seem to
> "hang out") to make sure.
>
> Pete
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"ryan constantine" <rco### [at] yahoo com> wrote in message
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| since the source code is available, it has been compiled for a lot of
| systems, but you'll have to ask nathan kopp about the amiga, or compile
| it yourself.
Or wait a few months (or less, or more?) for the official POV-Ray with
isosurface feature included.
See the povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions group for more about it.
Bob
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"Bob Hughes" <per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
news:39c04e9a@news.povray.org...
| "ryan constantine" <rco### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
| news:39C### [at] yahoocom...
| | since the source code is available, it has been compiled for a lot of
| | systems, but you'll have to ask nathan kopp about the amiga, or compile
| | it yourself.
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| Or wait a few months (or less, or more?) for the official POV-Ray with
| isosurface feature included.
| See the povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions group for more about
it.
I realized just after posting this that I should have checked the Amiga link
at www.povray.org and have now done so. Looks like the official POV-Ray
Amiga versions are outdated and the latest date I saw there (
http://www.amigaworld.com/support/povamiga/ ) was Jan. '99. So you'll
probably need to ask if there are any plans to do a compile of v3.5 for that
platform.
Bob
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"ryan constantine" <rco### [at] yahoocom> wrote...
> since the source code is available, it has been compiled for a lot of
> systems, but you'll have to ask nathan kopp about the amiga, or compile
> it yourself.
>
If someone wants to be in charge of compiling and maintaining an Amiga
version, I'll be happy to link to their page. I don't have access to any
Amiga machines, so I would not be able to do it myself. (FYI, I wouldn't
have the time, even if I did have access to the hardware and software,
unfortunately.)
-Nathan
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> If someone wants to be in charge of compiling and maintaining an Amiga
> version, I'll be happy to link to their page. I don't have access to any
> Amiga machines, so I would not be able to do it myself. (FYI, I wouldn't
> have the time, even if I did have access to the hardware and software,
> unfortunately.)
of course, we understand. occasionally, the rest of us suffer from
bouts with real life. as for the amiga, i haven't seen one in my corner
of america for maybe 10 or 15 years and the only users i have even heard
of are in europe.
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"ryan constantine" <rco### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> of course, we understand. occasionally, the rest of us suffer from
> bouts with real life. as for the amiga, i haven't seen one in my corner
> of america for maybe 10 or 15 years and the only users i have even heard
> of are in europe.
iirc they are still being used for some high-end graphics work - wasn't a
lot of the Babylon 5 stuff produced on Amigas?
Incidentally, is that bouts of real life or bouts with real life. Either, I
suppose, would be accurate. ;)
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Is there any new Amiga out there that can compete even with an "old"
PentiumII?
--
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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Warp wrote:
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> Is there any new Amiga out there that can compete even with an "old"
> PentiumII?
Yes, they're still produced (PPC I guess).
Markus
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> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
--
Der deutsche Schlager ist aus dem Klofenster gesprungen....
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> iirc they are still being used for some high-end graphics work - wasn't a
> lot of the Babylon 5 stuff produced on Amigas?
Wasn't B5 made with Pentiums?
> Incidentally, is that bouts of real life or bouts with real life. Either,
I
> suppose, would be accurate. ;)
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf
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I used Amigas back in the day. At one time they were the machine of
choice for graphics (remember the Video Toaster?) I gave up on the
Amiga when Commodore did. Actually, I discovered POV with my Amiga.
Sadly, none of the images I did back then have survived. Maybe that's
a good thing though, cause they were pretty cheesy.
Doug Eichenberg
dou### [at] nlsnet
www.getinfo.net/douge
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Bob Hughes wrote:
>I realized just after posting this that I should have checked the Amiga link
>at www.povray.org and have now done so. Looks like the official POV-Ray
>Amiga versions are outdated and the latest date I saw there (
>http://www.amigaworld.com/support/povamiga/ ) was Jan. '99. So you'll
>probably need to ask if there are any plans to do a compile of v3.5 for that
>platform.
>Bob
That site has the Amiga port of povray3.1, which is actually current.
I use that version and it anything that renders on WIndows 3.2 also
renders on that amiga version, so it is not out of date. When the pov
team release Povray 3.5, *then* it will be outdated.
Or did you mean something else when you said "outdated".
Pete
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BTW: thanks everyone for the replies.
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"Pete" <Pet### [at] nymaliasnet> wrote in message
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| Bob Hughes wrote:
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| > Looks like the official POV-Ray
| >Amiga versions are outdated and the latest date I saw there (
| >http://www.amigaworld.com/support/povamiga/ ) was Jan. '99. So you'll
| >probably need to ask if there are any plans to do a compile of v3.5 for
that
| >platform.
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| That site has the Amiga port of povray3.1, which is actually current.
| I use that version and it anything that renders on WIndows 3.2 also
| renders on that amiga version, so it is not out of date. When the pov
| team release Povray 3.5, *then* it will be outdated.
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| Or did you mean something else when you said "outdated".
Yes, I did actually (I'm so fatalistic, sorry). I was implying that it
appeared to be going back to January 9th, 1999, being a year and a half or
so ago, and thought there was a chance the Amiga platform was being left
behind. That date was from the POV-Ray Amiga PPC in testing! link which I
considered must be the latest thing going on. That might put the source
code back to around "version 3.1a" wouldn't it?
Anyway, the source code at the download link states: Not yet available.
Expected by 10-Nov-1998
I realize not everything on the web stays current as of today but it had me
thinking it was trailing off toward a forgotten platform. Curses, this
fast-paced internet mentality, if I was being wrong :-)
Bob
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Bob Hughes wrote:
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>Yes, I did actually (I'm so fatalistic, sorry). I was implying that it
>appeared to be going back to January 9th, 1999, being a year and a half or
>so ago, and thought there was a chance the Amiga platform was being left
>behind. That date was from the POV-Ray Amiga PPC in testing! link which I
>considered must be the latest thing going on. That might put the source
>code back to around "version 3.1a" wouldn't it?
>Anyway, the source code at the download link states: Not yet available.
>Expected by 10-Nov-1998
That "not yet available" is only for the PPC version. The
regular Amiga version (100% compatiable with the latest Official
Windows version) has been available for at least a year and a half.
>I realize not everything on the web stays current as of today but it had me
>thinking it was trailing off toward a forgotten platform. Curses, this
>fast-paced internet mentality, if I was being wrong :-)
No, the Amiga is fading. There are a tenacious group of
Amigans who belive the platform will come back but I don't agree
with them. I only continue to use my amiga because I've got it
tuned so nicely. If I moved to Windows or lunix, I'de lose all
my apps that have become so comfortable (MakeCD, Thor,
Arexx, etc.).
And I don't have room here to run two computers (ie -
buy a windows/linux machine and network it with the 'miggy.
That would be cool though).
Still: I use the Windows version of Official Povray at
work and the interface and the built in text editor are
rather slick!
Pete
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"Pete" <Pet### [at] nymaliasnet> wrote in message
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| That "not yet available" is only for the PPC version. The
| regular Amiga version (100% compatiable with the latest Official
| Windows version) has been available for at least a year and a half.
Okay, that clears that up I guess. I see a file date of July 1999 for the
version 3.1g of WinPOV I have here, not a year and a half exactly but I get
what you mean. Amazes me it's been a year and two months since then.
Bob
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