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Current status: www.povray.org is now back in read-write mode with the
database hooked back in.
I've made extensive changes to the code, particularly in respect to the
user account creation, login, recovery, and so forth.
While I was at it I took out the ability to add a homepage and 'about'
during account creation as 99% of user registrations over the past few
years that had these filled in were from spammers thinking that we'd
display them on the site.
Please bang on the user registration stuff to see if you can flush out
any problems. If you want to create new accounts for testing just use
your email address with a '+' (e.g. 'myemail+tes### [at] mydomain com'). The
plussed address is considered different for registration purposes but
all standards-compliant mail severs will ignore the part after the '+'
when accepting email.
(If you do this please let me know when you're done so I can delete the
accounts; so you don't need to post email address here, just use unique
user names for each and tell me what that is).
Other smaller changes: I have tweaked the navigation menu to add a
'Login' link as I think the old login page was harder than it should be
to find.
I've also changed the povQandT link that used to point to tag.povray.org
to instead be called 'FAQ' and now points directly at the main server. I
edited the QandT pages a bit to try to fit them into the new location a
little better; I will need to re-jig them to use PHP in order to load
the main site theme (they are currently just HTML). At this point I
don't think there's much else on the TAG site that needs to be kept (LMK
if you think there is) so I'll likely change the tag.povray.org config
to just redirect to www.povray.org.
If you find anything broken in the povQandT (apart from some background
images that don't seem to load) please let me know. Also if anyone wants
to volunteer to update the content I'd be happy to drop a zip here or
email it you.
-- Chris
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While doing the restore I took the opportunity to clean out a lot of
cruft that had built up over the years (mostly in temp dirs or
out-of-the way places that aren't referred to by any of the site code).
One location I did keep (at least for now), even though it's not
referenced anywhere I can find, is http://www.povray.org/nostalgia/. It
looks like I copied those files to the server sometime in 2006 but I
can't remember why and there don't seem to be any links to it out there
(tried google's inurl: search and also the wayback machine).
I won't link into the main site as it appears I just dropped them there
for someone as it's just a bunch of images. But the nostalgia is strong
with these ones as any old-timers will know, so I'll hold off nuking it
for now :)
-- Chris
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On 3/21/21 12:26 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 2021-03-20 6:46 PM (-4), Chris Cason wrote:
>> On 21/03/2021 08:40, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>> Sorry if this is mentioned already, but in Thunderbird I am sometimes
>>> getting the wrong messages with the wrong thread titles. Maybe it's a
>>> database issue?
>> The NNTP server doesn't use a database per se; it's a monolithic app
>> that stores the articles in its own format.
>>
>> It's possible something has gone awry in its indexing of the articles.
>> I'll take a look and see if I can find a way to re-generate the XOVER
>> files.
>
> I submitted an article to povray.binaries.images Thursday night, but I
>
try re-downloading the headers... i saw the same issue couple of days
ago when news 1st came back online. that all i had to do
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Chris,
Thank you for doing all of the work to get the system back up and
running again. I'm sure it's an undertaking on a scale that most of
us can't fully appreciate.
I know that you are busy getting everything re-installed, etc. But I
was wondering if there will be any upgrades/changes to the way the
newsgroups work. I know that a lot of us would like to be able to
include attachments in ANY of the newsgroups.
Perhaps having some more decentralization would be good, if at all
possible. I know that Mike Williams' site has been down for a while.
I backed that up and created a PDF and a zip file of all of his sources.
I have all of Friedrich Lohmueller's excellent work as well.
Perhaps we could have some dedicated space on the new server for that
material, and maybe mull over a mechanism by which the core POV-Ray
material (source, binaries, documentation) could have backups hosted on
one or more other sites.
Again, thank you for doing what I'm sure is a LOT of highly focused,
specialized technical work. Everything associated with the new server
is not free - Perhaps there is something some of us could do by check,
paypal, patreon, ....?
- Bill "Bald Eagle" Walker
(feel free to copy your reply to my email)
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On 3/21/21 5:04 AM, Chris Cason wrote:
> Also if anyone wants
> to volunteer to update the content I'd be happy to drop a zip here or
> email it you.
>
> -- Chris
Send it over. I'll have a look and see if I have any ideas.
Seems like 2021 is the POV-Ray Year of the Update. ;)
- Bill
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On 2021-03-21 4:46 AM (-4), Chris Cason wrote:
> On 21/03/2021 15:26, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> I submitted an article to povray.binaries.images Thursday night, but I
>
> I've told the server to re-generate its indexes and overview files; see
> if that helps.
>
> I can see a post from you called "Hooded lamp occlusion" in pbi now, so
> if that's the one you are referring to, it's definitely there (though I
> didn't check before re-generating the indexes, so I don't know if that
> was the cause or not).
Yes, that's the one. Nothing I tried to refresh the headers worked, so
I finally decided to unsubscribe and resubscribe to p.b.i., and that worked.
It's odd that I had this problem with p.b.i, but not with p.general.
Thanks again for all your work.
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On 3/21/2021 7:25 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
> On 3/21/21 12:26 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> On 2021-03-20 6:46 PM (-4), Chris Cason wrote:
>>> On 21/03/2021 08:40, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>>> Sorry if this is mentioned already, but in Thunderbird I am
>>>> sometimes getting the wrong messages with the wrong thread titles.
>>>> Maybe it's a database issue?
>>> The NNTP server doesn't use a database per se; it's a monolithic app
>>> that stores the articles in its own format.
>>>
>>> It's possible something has gone awry in its indexing of the
>>> articles. I'll take a look and see if I can find a way to re-generate
>>> the XOVER files.
>>
>> I submitted an article to povray.binaries.images Thursday night, but I
>>
>
> try re-downloading the headers... i saw the same issue couple of days
> ago when news 1st came back online. that all i had to do
How do I do this in Thunderbird?
Thanks.
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On 3/21/21 10:43 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 3/21/2021 7:25 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
>> On 3/21/21 12:26 AM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-20 6:46 PM (-4), Chris Cason wrote:
>>>> On 21/03/2021 08:40, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>>>> Sorry if this is mentioned already, but in Thunderbird I am
>>>>> sometimes getting the wrong messages with the wrong thread titles.
>>>>> Maybe it's a database issue?
>>>> The NNTP server doesn't use a database per se; it's a monolithic app
>>>> that stores the articles in its own format.
>>>>
>>>> It's possible something has gone awry in its indexing of the
>>>> articles. I'll take a look and see if I can find a way to
>>>> re-generate the XOVER files.
>>>
>>> I submitted an article to povray.binaries.images Thursday night, but
>>>
>>
>> try re-downloading the headers... i saw the same issue couple of days
>> ago when news 1st came back online. that all i had to do
>
> How do I do this in Thunderbird?
>
>
> Thanks.
in the left side pane alt-click on a newsgroup
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On 3/21/21 5:04 AM, Chris Cason wrote:
> Current status: www.povray.org is now back in read-write mode with the
> database hooked back in.
>
...
Do I need to login to get at the forums / news.povray.org/groups from
the web page? This link just hangs for me currently.
I mostly use thunderbird except when I need to figure out what the
actual web links are.
Bill P.
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Current status: the webview of the newsgroups is back up again, though
in read-only mode for now (and not taking a feed from the NNTP server yet).
There were a LOT of changes needed to the code to make it work with PHP7
so some breakage or strange behavior can be expected. If anything looks
particularly wonky please let me know.
-- Chris
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