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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: POVer licenses? Tutorial licenses?
Date: 4 Oct 2020 20:35:39
Message: <5f7a6a5b$1@news.povray.org>
I have been trying to figure out what "noncommercial" means.  If I post 
an include file, I do not want anyone to sell it; but I do not want to 
stop someone from incorporating it into their own render and selling 
*that.*  Would marking a work NC prevent the latter?  But while plowing 
through license explications to resolve this, I discovered that marking 
my work as NC could have other unintended consequences.  The claim is 
that CC's share-alike licenses (and all my CC stuff is share-alike) 
would answer all the worries that NC is supposed to address, without the 
unintended consequences, but I cannot make heads or tails of the 
argument.  The rationales and arguments have my head spinning, but one 
consequence is that it would block many collections (including Wikimedia 
Commons) from including it.  Nevertheless, Creative Commons reports that 
their NC licenses are their most popular.

An outfit called Freedom Defined claims that the CC-NC works are a 
growing problem, but I don't know whether it is a general problem or 
just a problem specific to people who wish capitalism would just go 
away.  I confess I am among the latter, but I cannot ignore the fact 
that capitalism is the extant reality!  Worries that free-licensed works 
would be abused by moneyed corporate bad actors are answered with the 
claim that such abuses are unlikely, and the damage that NC licenses 
cause to free culture outweighs the risk of abuse.  I wish I could be 
that optimistic about human nature; while I agree that most people are 
good actors, I observe that it takes only a few bad actors to ruin 
things for everyone.  I also sense a yearning for economic utopia from 
Richard Stallman (GNU, Free Software Foundation) at a level that I find 

Currently, I am trying to figure out what license to attach to a 
tutorial that I intend to post to p.b.t.  While considering which 
license to apply, I discovered that Creative Commons doesn't recommend 
their licenses for software!  While my tutorial isn't entirely software, 
it does include a scene file as well as SDL snippets in the tutorial 
content.  On the other hand the GPL, which I have used for pure SDL 
works, didn't seem right for this either.  CC says their licenses do not 
contain specific terms about source code distribution, and now I am left 
wondering what exactly I should be looking for.

I seem to be caught between two places. Licenses such as the BSD and FSF 
licenses are tailored for software, and CC is geared toward artworks. 
POV-Ray is a fusion of both. Is there a some-rights-reserved license 
that threads these two worlds? Or does a tutorial fall more under one 
than the other?

And apart from tutorials, I can also see myself sharing a project in 
p.b.s-f that I want to hold closer to my chest than the GPL or LGPL will 

For personal reasons, I missed out on the discussions about choosing a 
common license for the Object Collection, so I have gone back and am 
reading them for the first time. Boy was it deep! But the takeaway that 
surprised and disturbed me was learning that the GPL requires 
distribution of source code, and the confusion over what exactly that 
means. Re-reading the license more carefully to verify this, it seems to 
indicate that everything it touches must also be licensed under the GPL! 
Does Thomas need to post radiosity_pretrace.inc every time he posts a 
JPEG to p.b.i? Does he need to license the JPEG under the GPL? Is this 
why the FSF relented on its utopian vision and created the LGPL? I am 
not a lawyer, and I am confused!

POV-Ray is now under the GNU Affero General Public License, and I am 
also aware of the GNU Free Documention License.  When I look into these, 
I always end up flummoxed.  How does a non-lawyer navigate through all 
of this?  How does one choose a license?

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