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From: TC
Subject: www.povray.org resources: remove links to Geocities
Date: 3 Nov 2009 05:58:59
Message: <4af00cf3$1@news.povray.org>
It is time to remove the links to Geocities on www.povray.org since the site 
is dead, gone and buried. There are plenty links on the resources-page that 
now point into the great void.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: www.povray.org resources: remove links to Geocities
Date: 3 Nov 2009 06:52:04
Message: <4af01964$1@news.povray.org>
"TC" <do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> wrote in message 
news:4af00cf3$1@news.povray.org...
> It is time to remove the links to Geocities on www.povray.org since the 
> site is dead, gone and buried. There are plenty links on the 
> resources-page that now point into the great void.

The source for the links collection has been posted here:
http://wiki.povray.org/content/Knowledgebase:POV-Ray_Links_Collection

There are several people working on the files that were there and some other 
housekeeping issues as well. I haven't seen any activity with that lately, 
however I was looking for something the other day and found a stale link in 
that list. After a bit of investigation that led nowhere I decided to just 
delete it.

So the process to make changes to the links collection is in place, minus 
the code to get the deltas from the Wiki back to the Main site.

Jim


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: www.povray.org resources: remove links to Geocities
Date: 3 Nov 2009 13:29:13
Message: <4af07679$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:

> So the process to make changes to the links collection is in place, minus 
> the code to get the deltas from the Wiki back to the Main site.

Also, I noticed today that the POV-Tree page no longer seems
to exist. That is certainly a tool which should not get lost.
I was still able to get a copy by entering the old URL

   http://propro.ru/go/Wshop/povtree/download.html

into the Internet Archive at

   http://www.archive.org/index.php

I didn't know until now that someone backs up the internet ;)


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: www.povray.org resources: remove links to Geocities
Date: 6 Nov 2009 17:39:18
Message: <4af4a596@news.povray.org>
On 11/3/2009 1:29 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> I didn't know until now that someone backs up the internet ;)

I *swear* I was able to access versions of my old website dating back to 
before ~2002, complete with subpages and many images. But I am no longer 
able to. Does IA delete archives?

Mike


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: www.povray.org resources: remove links to Geocities
Date: 6 Nov 2009 17:57:38
Message: <4af4a9e2$1@news.povray.org>
SharkD schrieb:
> On 11/3/2009 1:29 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>> I didn't know until now that someone backs up the internet ;)
> 
> I *swear* I was able to access versions of my old website dating back to 
> before ~2002, complete with subpages and many images. But I am no longer 
> able to. Does IA delete archives?

... and who archives the archive? :-P


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: www.povray.org resources: remove links to Geocities
Date: 11 Nov 2009 09:51:00
Message: <4afacf54$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message 
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>
> "TC" <do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> wrote in message 
> news:4af00cf3$1@news.povray.org...
>> It is time to remove the links to Geocities on www.povray.org since the 
>> site is dead, gone and buried. There are plenty links on the 
>> resources-page that now point into the great void.
>
> The source for the links collection has been posted here:
> http://wiki.povray.org/content/Knowledgebase:POV-Ray_Links_Collection
>
> There are several people working on the files that were there and some 
> other housekeeping issues as well. I haven't seen any activity with that 
> lately, ....

I've just updated a small number of links where I've found new sites for 
stuff as part of the exercise that I was doing recovering Geocities objects 
for the Object Collection. I don't know if Sabrina ever managed to get a 
copy of any sites online on a public web site.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Ken
Subject: It's been years....
Date: 21 Nov 2009 11:17:04
Message: <4b081280$1@news.povray.org>
There are probably hundreds of links in the collection that are now dead and 
obsolete. It was hard keeping the links active and up to date, even when I 
actively maintaining them, but the collection hasn't had any real work done 
to it in years. I'm sure interests have also changed and the whole 
collection should be trimmed down and started over.

Ken Tyler
POV-Ray Linkmaster of days gone by...


"TC" <do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> wrote in message 
news:4af00cf3$1@news.povray.org...
> It is time to remove the links to Geocities on www.povray.org since the 
> site is dead, gone and buried. There are plenty links on the 
> resources-page that now point into the great void.
>
>


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From: pan
Subject: Re: It's been years....
Date: 21 Nov 2009 13:56:42
Message: <4b0837ea@news.povray.org>
Ken wrote:
>> There are probably hundreds of links in the collection that are now
>> dead and obsolete. It was hard keeping the links active and up to
>> date, even when I actively maintaining them, but the collection
>> hasn't had any real work done to it in years. I'm sure interests
>> have also changed and the whole collection should be trimmed down
>> and started over.
>>
Is there any automated URI checking?
Are the items listed organized data? (i.e., in a database)

Might be fun to build that (or fint tune an existing one).


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: It's been years....
Date: 21 Nov 2009 17:19:43
Message: <4b08677f$1@news.povray.org>
"pan" <pan### [at] syixcom> wrote in message news:4b0837ea@news.povray.org...
> Ken wrote:
>>> There are probably hundreds of links in the collection that are now
>>> dead and obsolete. It was hard keeping the links active and up to
>>> date, even when I actively maintaining them, but the collection
>>> hasn't had any real work done to it in years. I'm sure interests
>>> have also changed and the whole collection should be trimmed down
>>> and started over.
>>>
> Is there any automated URI checking?
> Are the items listed organized data? (i.e., in a database)
>
> Might be fun to build that (or fint tune an existing one).

When I was building and maintiaining the link collection for povray.org I 
had a couple of freeware applications that I used for checking link 
integrity. That was sooooo long ago I've since forgotten what I was using. 
I'm sure similar applications are still available. The collection was 
originally built off my personal bookmarks in Netscape and Chris Cason used 
my bookmarks to build the page for the povray.org site.

Ken


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From: pan
Subject: Re: It's been years....
Date: 21 Nov 2009 19:50:46
Message: <4b088ae6@news.povray.org>
Ken wrote:
>> "pan" <pan### [at] syixcom> wrote in message
>> news:4b0837ea@news.povray.org...
>>> Ken wrote:
>>>>> There are probably hundreds of links in the collection that are
>>>>> now dead and obsolete. It was hard keeping the links active and
>>>>> up to date, even when I actively maintaining them, but the
>>>>> collection hasn't had any real work done to it in years. I'm sure
>>>>> interests have also changed and the whole collection should be
>>>>> trimmed down and started over.
>>>>>
>>> Is there any automated URI checking?
>>> Are the items listed organized data? (i.e., in a database)
>>>
>>> Might be fun to build that (or fint tune an existing one).
>>
>> When I was building and maintiaining the link collection for
>> povray.org I had a couple of freeware applications that I used for
>> checking link integrity. That was sooooo long ago I've since
>> forgotten what I was using. I'm sure similar applications are still
>> available. The collection was originally built off my personal
>> bookmarks in Netscape and Chris Cason used my bookmarks to build the
>> page for the povray.org site.
>>
Apparently Xenu's Link Sleuth lives.
And a recent update
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html#Download


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