After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.

We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its 
paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a 
little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.

We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so 
all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must 
login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images 
or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still 
correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:

	irt### [at] irtcorg

We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.

Have fun
David Buck

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In povray.general David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.

  Damn, now I'll have to keep my promise of submitting to the first
round. (Altough I think I'll wait for the first real round starting
in July...)

  Good to see the site reinstated at last. :)

  Btw, dark blue text on black background is a bit hard to see in
some monitors. It might be a good idea to change the color to something
lighter.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Warp wrote:
> In povray.general David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
>   Damn, now I'll have to keep my promise of submitting to the first
> round. (Altough I think I'll wait for the first real round starting
> in July...)
> 
>   Good to see the site reinstated at last. :)
> 
>   Btw, dark blue text on black background is a bit hard to see in
> some monitors. It might be a good idea to change the color to something
> lighter.
> 

I'll do that - it's just a CSS change.

David

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David Buck wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its 
> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a 
> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
> 
> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so 
> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must 
> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images 
> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still 
> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
> 
>     irt### [at] irtcorg
> 
> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
> 
> Have fun
> David Buck


If the site doesn't let you register using your e-mail address, it means 
that an account has already been created.  Just click the gray area 
under the login form that says "Forgot your password?  Reset it here" 
You will be e-mailed a link to reset your password and to set a username 
of your choosing.

David Buck

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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.

With Internet Explorer 7, the layout of the Login area doesn't work properly; I
see the text "Username:" above the user name field (which I expect is how it
was intended), but the text "Password:" appears to the right of the user name
field instead of below, poking out of the proper rendering area to the right
and thereby causing a horizontal scrollbar to appear, despite the page being
basically of dynamic width.
(The password input field appears in the next line again, below the user name
input field.)

I had a bit of trouble after registering; from the page where I logged in first
time (not sure whether it was the "we'll send you an e-mail" page, or the
"thanks, your registration is complete now" one), clicking on any menu item had
no effect except re-loading the very same page.

Will there be a mechanism to remember me, so I don't need to log in again every
time I visit the site?

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In povray.general David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> If the site doesn't let you register using your e-mail address, it means 
> that an account has already been created.  Just click the gray area 
> under the login form that says "Forgot your password?  Reset it here" 
> You will be e-mailed a link to reset your password and to set a username 
> of your choosing.

  I tried resetting my username/password like this, and after entering
the new info in the "password change" page, it just jumps to the same
page with the message: "There is a problem with the information you
provided. Please try again." It doesn't change my password.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.

The "About" page images don't work.

I'm missing terms of use, competition rules, and some such.

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clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> With Internet Explorer 7, the layout of the Login area doesn't work properly; I
> see the text "Username:" above the user name field (which I expect is how it
> was intended), but the text "Password:" appears to the right of the user name
> field instead of below, poking out of the proper rendering area to the right
> and thereby causing a horizontal scrollbar to appear, despite the page being
> basically of dynamic width.
> (The password input field appears in the next line again, below the user name
> input field.)
> 
> I had a bit of trouble after registering; from the page where I logged in first
> time (not sure whether it was the "we'll send you an e-mail" page, or the
> "thanks, your registration is complete now" one), clicking on any menu item had
> no effect except re-loading the very same page.
> 
> Will there be a mechanism to remember me, so I don't need to log in again every
> time I visit the site?
> 
> 
> 

I'm looking into the IE issue

David

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clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> With Internet Explorer 7, the layout of the Login area doesn't work properly; I
> see the text "Username:" above the user name field (which I expect is how it
> was intended), but the text "Password:" appears to the right of the user name
> field instead of below, poking out of the proper rendering area to the right
> and thereby causing a horizontal scrollbar to appear, despite the page being
> basically of dynamic width.
> (The password input field appears in the next line again, below the user name
> input field.)

The IE issue should be resolved.

David

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clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> The "About" page images don't work.
> 
> I'm missing terms of use, competition rules, and some such.
> 
> 
> 

That's coming soon.  We just have to enter all the information and get 
all the links right.

I'm redirecting followups to irtc.general which is likely more 
appropriate for this purpose than povray.general.

David

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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
>
> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its
> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a
> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
>
> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so
> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must
> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images
> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still
> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
>
>  irt### [at] irtcorg
>
> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
>
> Have fun
> David Buck

Dave,
I think I uploaded an image but didn't receive any conformation nor did it show
up on the IRTC web page. Should I just be patient or did something not work ?

ChrisH

BTW - Great job on the new IRTC site !

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ChrisH wrote:
> Dave,
> I think I uploaded an image but didn't receive any conformation nor did it show
> up on the IRTC web page. Should I just be patient or did something not work ?
> 
> ChrisH
> 

I don't see any submissions and there are no files in the download 
directory so something didn't work. To submit an image, you need a 
title, an image and a thumbnail that's 75 pixels high.  Did you provide 
all three of these things?  If not, an error message should appear at 
the top of the screen.  Maybe the message isn't obvious enough.

Try again and let me know what you find.

> BTW - Great job on the new IRTC site !
> 

Thanks for your help testing it out.

David Buck

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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> ChrisH wrote:
> > Dave,
> > I think I uploaded an image but didn't receive any conformation nor did it show
> > up on the IRTC web page. Should I just be patient or did something not work ?
> >
> > ChrisH
> >
>
> I don't see any submissions and there are no files in the download
> directory so something didn't work. To submit an image, you need a
> title, an image and a thumbnail that's 75 pixels high.  Did you provide
> all three of these things?  If not, an error message should appear at
> the top of the screen.  Maybe the message isn't obvious enough.
>
> Try again and let me know what you find.
>
> > BTW - Great job on the new IRTC site !
> >
>
> Thanks for your help testing it out.
>
> David Buck

Dave,
Same problem as before. I added a Title, uploaded a brief text file for the
scene submission, a 244 kb jpeg for the main image and a 75 pixel tall by 100
pixel wide jpeg for the thumbnail image. No error messages, just a reset back
to the submission page. The reset kept my text but blanked out the image
fields.

Aren't undocumented features wonderful :)

ChrisH

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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> I don't see any submissions and there are no files in the download
> directory so something didn't work. To submit an image, you need a
> title, an image and a thumbnail that's 75 pixels high.  Did you provide
> all three of these things?  If not, an error message should appear at
> the top of the screen.  Maybe the message isn't obvious enough.

Maximum resolution? Maximum file size? Possible file formats?

Or is this essential information as top secret as it appears to be? :P

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It looks great!
Just a little thing: could be interesting achieve (where available) the 
zipfiles with the sources directly from the ViewSubmission page.
;-)
Paolo



 >David Buck  on date 24/05/2009 17:24 wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its 
> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a 
> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
> 
> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so 
> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must 
> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images 
> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still 
> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
> 
>     irt### [at] irtcorg
> 
> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
> 
> Have fun
> David Buck

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Sure.  I'll add that.

David

Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> It looks great!
> Just a little thing: could be interesting achieve (where available) the 
> zipfiles with the sources directly from the ViewSubmission page.
> ;-)
> Paolo
> 
> 
> 
>  >David Buck  on date 24/05/2009 17:24 wrote:
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
>>
>> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through 
>> its paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will 
>> take a little longer to get an animations round started - please be 
>> patient.
>>
>> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so 
>> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must 
>> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted 
>> images or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are 
>> still correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
>>
>>     irt### [at] irtcorg
>>
>> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
>>
>> Have fun
>> David Buck

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Hi. Are there any benefits of reviving an old account from the old days versus
starting up a new one? I probably used an email address that I'd eventually
like to phase out.

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David Buck wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
> online.

WOOT

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gregjohn wrote:
> Hi. Are there any benefits of reviving an old account from the old days versus
> starting up a new one? I probably used an email address that I'd eventually
> like to phase out.
> 
> 
> 

No benefits that aren't easy to address.  The new web site keeps track 
of all submissions made by a user.  If you click on the user's name, it 
displays all submissions for all contests for that user.  If you create 
a new account, then those submissions wouldn't appear for you.  If this 
happens, you can just drop us an e-mail at irt### [at] irtcorg and we'll 
reassign the old submissions to the new account.  It's not a big 
problem.  We have an administrator function that can do this easily for us.

If you do revive an old account, so long as you can still receive 
e-mails to that account you can revive it and change the e-mail address 
afterward or email us at the above address to change the e-mail address.

David Buck

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David Buck wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its 
> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a 
> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
> 
> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so 
> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must 
> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images 
> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still 
> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
> 
>     irt### [at] irtcorg
> 
> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.

Now that I've gotten over my euphoria:

I note that the last round (the unjudged Jan 2007 round, for animations) 
does not appear on the site anywhere.  You can click "Next Year" on the 
page for the 2006 round, and go to year 2007, but the one round for that 
year is not displayed.  (In fact, you can click "Next Year" repeatedly, 
and get pages for 2008, 2009, 2010, and so on.)

Also, the "Description" link for each entry appears to link to the 
entry, instead of the TXT file that is submitted.  I was expecting the 
latter when I clicked one.

Regards,
John

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David Buck wrote:

> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.

Thank you, great news! A few minor things I noted:

o It's a bit strange to use the real name as "user name" for
   login purposes, that could be split into a user name and a
   friendly display name or login via email address.

o The viewing page for a round is a bit hidden behind
   the small "View Round" link in the corner. Possibly the
   topic could link there as well. Also, the images on the
   viewing page are left-aligned although the corresponding
   text is on the right side, suggesting wrong pairings.

o I think all past rounds should appear under "Past Rounds", even
   the one which is currently show-cased under "Home". Actually I'm
   not even sure that just showing past winners is the best content
   for "Home", I'd have expected a (very short) description what the
   site is about and a compact overview of the current and last
   competition (the latter probably with the winning image).
   Nothing so scrollable ;)

o I didn't yet try submitting but it seems you need to provide
   a thumbnail manually, which seems a hot candidate for future
   automization ;) BTW I suppose submission by ftp is no
   longer supported?

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Christian Froeschlin wrote:

> o It's a bit strange to use the real name as "user name" for
>   login purposes

At least, that is what I got after resetting the password
via email adress. As the real name usually contains a space,
clicking on the link in the email directly did not work,
that would have to be coded as %20 I think. But still
better to have user names without spaces ;)

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Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
> Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>
> > o It's a bit strange to use the real name as "user name" for
> >   login purposes
>
> At least, that is what I got after resetting the password
> via email adress. As the real name usually contains a space,
> clicking on the link in the email directly did not work,
> that would have to be coded as %20 I think. But still
> better to have user names without spaces ;)

+ should work as well in the URL.

I ended up creating a new account with my Screen Name.  The email address I
originally used died a long time ago.  :-)

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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> David Buck wrote:
> 
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site 
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
> 
> Thank you, great news! A few minor things I noted:
> 
> o It's a bit strange to use the real name as "user name" for
>   login purposes, that could be split into a user name and a
>   friendly display name or login via email address.
> 
> o The viewing page for a round is a bit hidden behind
>   the small "View Round" link in the corner. Possibly the
>   topic could link there as well. Also, the images on the
>   viewing page are left-aligned although the corresponding
>   text is on the right side, suggesting wrong pairings.
> 
> o I think all past rounds should appear under "Past Rounds", even
>   the one which is currently show-cased under "Home". Actually I'm
>   not even sure that just showing past winners is the best content
>   for "Home", I'd have expected a (very short) description what the
>   site is about and a compact overview of the current and last
>   competition (the latter probably with the winning image).
>   Nothing so scrollable ;)
> 
> o I didn't yet try submitting but it seems you need to provide
>   a thumbnail manually, which seems a hot candidate for future
>   automization ;) BTW I suppose submission by ftp is no
>   longer supported?

Just to let everyone know - I'm collecting up the comments on the 
appearance and functionality of the site.  We have a new graphics 
designer who volunteered to help out and we expect to replace the layout 
of the site at some point in the future.  Your comments will all feed 
into that process.  Some of the appearance of the site is temporary and 
is done in a simple way just to get the site operational.  We will be 
improving it over time.

As for the thumbnails, I can easily create the thumbnails automatically 
for stills but it would be impossible to do so for animation (which 
frame would be the best representation of the animation).  I felt that 
we could start by having the submitter provide the thumbnails in all 
cases.  I may reconsider that decision before we start the first 
official round so consider the mandatory thumbnails for still to be 
temporary.

I'd like to keep the submission process managed completely by the site 
which means that FTP submissions wouldn't be possible.  I'm willing to 
be convinced otherwise if the community feels strongly enough about it.

Thanks
David Buck

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niiiice!

-- 
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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
>
> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its
> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a
> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
>
> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so
> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must
> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images
> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still
> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
>
>  irt### [at] irtcorg
>
> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
>
> Have fun
> David Buck

Dave,
   SUCCESS ! I got it to work. I was able to upload my image and thumbnail. Only
one noticeable problem - the text in the description does not word wrap. It's
one long single line of text.
  I know some people like to keep their images a secret during a contest, but I
would not mind seeing what's been submitted or people seeing my image before the
contest entry due date. Maybe a future enhancement would allow a couple of
work-in-progress images to be posted. These could be limited in size and be
automatically deleted when the final image is posted. Just a thought.

ChrisH

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It's good to see the site back on line again!

I'll echo John's comment: Where did the final (unjudged) round go? Just because
it didn't get judged doesn't mean people didn't put work into the round.

Also, I think the 'View Round' link is way too small, and hidden at the bottom
of the page. I always though that the people who didn't rank in the top 3 got
the short end of the stick, since it was so hard to find their entries.

Now, the link to the 'losers' is even smaller than before.

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"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message 
news:4a19669e$1@news.povray.org...
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site online. 
> You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.

Woohoo!

Finally I have a reason to use povray again :)

Thank you for all your hard work, I look forward to getting back into this 
awesome competition.

-- 
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com

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Would it be possible to get an RSS feed of the current rounds and their
descriptions?

A.D.B.

David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
>
> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its
> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a
> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
>
> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so
> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must
> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images
> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still
> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
>
>  irt### [at] irtcorg
>
> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
>
> Have fun
> David Buck

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I'll put it on the to-do list.

David Buck

Anthony D. Baye wrote:
> Would it be possible to get an RSS feed of the current rounds and their
> descriptions?
> 
> A.D.B.
> 
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> After much work and many delays, we finally have the new IRTC site
>> online.  You can visit http://www.irtc.org to have a look.
>>
>> We've create a Testing stills round to help us run the site through its
>> paces.  Feel free to submit your own raytraced artwork.  It will take a
>> little longer to get an animations round started - please be patient.
>>
>> We've captured all the original information from the old web site, so
>> all the prior rounds are visible.  To submit new entries, you must
>> login. We've tried to create accounts for people who've submitted images
>> or comments but we can't be sure all the e-mail addresses are still
>> correct. If you have any problems at all, please e-mail:
>>
>>  irt### [at] irtcorg
>>
>> We'll address any problems as quickly as we can.
>>
>> Have fun
>> David Buck
> 
> 
> 
>

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David,
   thank you for your work on the site!
I have a little question regarding voting system:
- After login I can vote on the images of the round, ok, but the rules 
are not very clear: instead of three votes (technical, artistic, 
concept) I have an overall vote, could be, but how many images can I 
nominate for a determinate merit? I've  supposed that "previous" and 
"next" buttons save the data, is correct?
- In the images I can see (end eventually vote) my image too: this is a 
little thing, but imho I don't need to see my own image.
- After voting I don't see any button to "commit" all the votes and 
comments. Could be interesting a recapitulation page with a ending button.
- At least (but very important), today I've re-logged myself in order to 
review the votes, but just for three or for images I have found my 
comments and (random, not my) votes: for almost all the images I have 
found blank data! Are all the data lost or is just a retrieving problem?
Thank you again,
;-)
Paolo

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