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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 00:11:11
Message: <49a3816f$1@news.povray.org>
I am creating an array in one macro, and using it in another. The macro 
which creates the array surrounds it with a conditional, which results an an 
array of variable size, so when I try top loop against it (expectedly) 
subscript out of range errors occur.

This would not even be an issue were there an array.length() function.
So what I have tried to do is increment a variable within the conditional 
which populates the array which is then used within an if block just before 
the i=i+1 like this: [which forces random tests to be performed beyond your 
estimate, until your desired array length is reached]

 //     Check if required array length has been reached, if not, increment 
counter until it has
 #if (checkLength = requestedLength-1)
  #debug "Required Array Length Reached, now exiting... \n"
 #else
  #if (ctr > 5000)
   #debug "Ceiling has been reached; Preventing infinite loop, now 
exiting... \n"
  #else
   #set ctr=ctr+1;
  #end
 #end

Is this the best I can hope for? Is there some other way to detect the 
populated length of an array? dimension_size is *useless*. Might it be that 
I am forced to form the array within the loop which uses it? That would 
suck...not very OO...but then SDL isn't very OO to start with, ironically..

ian


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 03:02:30
Message: <49a3a996$1@news.povray.org>
[GDS|Entropy] wrote:
> Is this the best I can hope for? Is there some other way to detect the 
> populated length of an array? dimension_size is *useless*.

Why do you think so?

	Thorsten


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 03:11:51
Message: <49a3abc7@news.povray.org>
Because the array is declared outside of the macro which populates it, to 
facilitate its passing to other macros as a variable, so always returns 
whatever you defined its length to be, regardless if it has been populated 
with that many values.

Pov doesn't support redimensioning, does it?

ian

"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message 
news:49a3a996$1@news.povray.org...
> [GDS|Entropy] wrote:
>> Is this the best I can hope for? Is there some other way to detect the 
>> populated length of an array? dimension_size is *useless*.
>
> Why do you think so?
>
> Thorsten
>


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 03:33:26
Message: <49a3b0d6$1@news.povray.org>
> Because the array is declared outside of the macro which populates it, to 
> facilitate its passing to other macros as a variable, so always returns 
> whatever you defined its length to be, regardless if it has been populated 
> with that many values.
>
> Pov doesn't support redimensioning, does it?

Yeah, it does support redimensioning, you just redeclare it;
there's a bit of memory overhead is all.

// oversized array sample
#declare MyArray = array [1000];
#declare MyArray[0] = 1;
#declare MyArray[1] = 2;

// resize the array to fit the data
#macro resize_array(ar)
   #local c = 0;
   #while (defined(ar[c]))
      #local c=c+1;
   #end
   #local new_ar = array[c];
   #local c2=0;
   #while (c2<c)
      #local new_ar[c2]=ar[c2];
      #local c2=c2+1;
   #end
   #declare ar = new_ar;
#end

// some output
#debug concat("Dimension Size = ", str(dimension_size(MyArray,1),0,0),"\n")
resize_array(MyArray)
#debug concat("Dimension Size = ", str(dimension_size(MyArray,1),0,0),"\n")
#error "Stop"


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 03:40:00
Message: <web.49a3b21678dc09aea5bc7c50@news.povray.org>
"[GDS|Entropy]" <gds### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Is this the best I can hope for? Is there some other way to detect the
> populated length of an array? dimension_size is *useless*. Might it be that
> I am forced to form the array within the loop which uses it? That would
> suck...not very OO...but then SDL isn't very OO to start with, ironically..


Prepared to give yourself a big slap on the head?

Try this (*ta-daaah*):


      -------------------------
       #ifdef (myArray[i]) ...
      -------------------------


So a fail-safe code to loop through an array would look something like this:

#declare i=0;
#while (i < dimension_size(myArray,1))
  #ifdef (myArray[i])
    #debug concat("[", str(i,0,0), "]=", str(myArray[i],0,0), "\n")
    #declare i=i+1;
  #else
    #debug concat("[", str(i,0,0), "] undefined\n")
    #declare i=dimension_size(myArray,1); // force exiting of the loop
  #end
#end

(unfortunately, POV doesn't have a break statement for loops (its #break
statement is only of use in #switch statements), nor does it "short-circuit"
its & operator so #while (i < dimension_size(myArray,1) & defined(myArray[i]))
will not work properly, hence the comparatively ugly way of terminating the
loop)

Or, if your list may contain "holes":

#declare i=0;
#while (i < dimension_size(myArray,1))
  #ifdef (myArray[i])
    #debug concat("[", str(i,0,0), "]=", str(myArray[i],0,0), "\n")
  #else
    #debug concat("[", str(i,0,0), "] undefined\n")
  #end
  #declare i=i+1;
#end


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 03:44:08
Message: <49a3b358$1@news.povray.org>
"[GDS|Entropy]" <gds### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:49a3abc7@news.povray.org...
> Because the array is declared outside of the macro which populates it, to 
> facilitate its passing to other macros as a variable, so always returns 
> whatever you defined its length to be, regardless if it has been populated 
> with that many values.
>
> Pov doesn't support redimensioning, does it?
>

Just to make sure I understand you correctly: You define an array that is, 
say 5000 elements long. You then call a macro to populate some elements of 
that array, but there are gaps. You then need a second macro to loop through 
the array, ignoring any unassigned elements?

If that's right, you just need to use #ifdef to see if an element of the 
array has been assigned before you use it.

If by 'redimensioning' you mean just scrunching up the gaps, then you can do 
that very simply in a loop using #ifdef on an array element. If it exists 
move it to the current 'write' point in the array. Plus you can count the 
actual number of elements uses as you go.

#local I = 0;
#declare NewSize = 0;
#while (I<dimension_size(MyArray,1))
  #ifdef(MyArray[I])
    #declare MyArray[NewSize] = MyArray[I];
    #declare NewSize = NewSize+1;
  #end
  #local I=I+1;
#end

Untested code Warning! I didn't run this, so it may contain syntax errors 
etc.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 05:39:22
Message: <49a3ce5a$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks guys!
That #ifdef took care of the issue. I should have remembered that, its part 
of C lol! :-D

Tim: I wasn't able to get your macro to work (though looking at it while I'm 
typing, it looks like the c=c+1 should come after the c2=c2+1? Am I right?). 
I'll play with it a bit later, but that is pretty close to the redim I was 
referring to.

I hadn't even considered an array with holes, which is something I should 
look out for, but I think in the context of this specific problem that 
wasn't happening.
At least I have the solution for that too now. :-D

I appreciate everyones help!
ian


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 06:15:00
Message: <web.49a3d5fe78dc09ae6dd25f0b0@news.povray.org>
"[GDS|Entropy]" <gds### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Thanks guys!
> That #ifdef took care of the issue. I should have remembered that, its part
> of C lol! :-D

Just an extra thought - couldn't you globally #declare your array size when you
populate it, then use this value in the second macro? Unless I've misunderstood
your first post...

Bill


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 14:15:21
Message: <49a44749$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Attwood wrote:

> #macro resize_array(ar)
 >   ...
>   #declare ar = new_ar;
> #end
 >
 > resize_array(MyArray)

Interesting. I didn't know macro parameters got by-reference
semantics when an identifier was passed instead of an RVALUE.
I think I'd prefer to assign the value using #local, though,
to make it clear no global variable "ar" is involved.


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From: [GDS|Entropy]
Subject: Re: array.length()?
Date: 24 Feb 2009 16:46:26
Message: <49a46ab2$1@news.povray.org>
I had a version which did this, but I could only summon it once, as any 
subsequent incarnations redefined the contents upon each call.

ian

"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:web.49a3d5fe78dc09ae6dd25f0b0@news.povray.org...
> "[GDS|Entropy]" <gds### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> Thanks guys!
>> That #ifdef took care of the issue. I should have remembered that, its 
>> part
>> of C lol! :-D
>
> Just an extra thought - couldn't you globally #declare your array size 
> when you
> populate it, then use this value in the second macro? Unless I've 
> misunderstood
> your first post...
>
> Bill
>
>
>


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