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From: Alessio Sangalli
Subject: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 13 Nov 2008 20:12:24
Message: <491cd078@news.povray.org>
Hi, every night before going to bed I teach a little bit of POV-ray to
my wife.

The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
(for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
imagemagick's "display") to see the result. For an animation, it's even
more complicated.

Because my target here is not teach her how to script in bash but how to
write scenes in POV-ray, I would feel much better if there was an
"integrated" editor for POV-ray with buttons to select options and start
rendering.

Any suggestion? PS I do *not* want a CAD-like or "visual" editor...

bye
as


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 13 Nov 2008 20:30:01
Message: <web.491cd42e34cbc438849303c80@news.povray.org>
Alessio Sangalli <ale### [at] manowebcom> wrote:
> Hi, every night before going to bed I teach a little bit of POV-ray to
> my wife.
>
> The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
> she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
> (for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
> imagemagick's "display") to see the result. For an animation, it's even
> more complicated.
>
> Because my target here is not teach her how to script in bash but how to
> write scenes in POV-ray, I would feel much better if there was an
> "integrated" editor for POV-ray with buttons to select options and start
> rendering.
>
> Any suggestion? PS I do *not* want a CAD-like or "visual" editor...
>
> bye
> as

Are you using Windows?

-Mike


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 13 Nov 2008 22:47:00
Message: <491cf4b4$1@news.povray.org>
"SharkD" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.491cd42e34cbc438849303c80@news.povray.org...
> Alessio Sangalli <ale### [at] manowebcom> wrote:
>> Hi, every night before going to bed I teach a little bit of POV-ray to
>> my wife.
>>
>> The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
>> she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
>> (for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
>> imagemagick's "display") to see the result. For an animation, it's even
>> more complicated.
>>
>> Because my target here is not teach her how to script in bash but how to
>> write scenes in POV-ray, I would feel much better if there was an
>> "integrated" editor for POV-ray with buttons to select options and start
>> rendering.
>>
>> Any suggestion? PS I do *not* want a CAD-like or "visual" editor...
>>
>> bye
>> as
>
> Are you using Windows?
>
> -Mike

From the BASH comment I assume he's in Linux of some sort.
You could try the windows version under Wine, I'm not sure
but it probably would work.
There's also POVclipse... that's a POV syntax version of Eclipse,
you could give that a try.


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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 02:38:40
Message: <491d2b00@news.povray.org>
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Alessio Sangalli wrote:
> Hi, every night before going to bed I teach a little bit of POV-ray to
> my wife.
> 
> The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
> she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
> (for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
> imagemagick's "display") to see the result. For an animation, it's even
> more complicated.
> 
> Because my target here is not teach her how to script in bash but how to
> write scenes in POV-ray, I would feel much better if there was an
> "integrated" editor for POV-ray with buttons to select options and start
> rendering.
> 
> Any suggestion? PS I do *not* want a CAD-like or "visual" editor...
> 
> bye
> as

	You might want to try XPE: http://nextpe.sourceforge.net/

		Jerome
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 10:38:49
Message: <491d9b89@news.povray.org>
Alessio Sangalli <ale### [at] manowebcom> wrote:
> The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
> she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
> (for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
> imagemagick's "display") to see the result.

  It doesn't have to be so complicated. When I edit a povray file and want
to make a test render of it, it happens like:

- Save by pressing the saving shortcut key in the text editor.
- Alt+tab to switch to the terminal where I have been running povray.
- Up+enter (assuming I have already run povray in that terminal).

  That's it. POV-Ray shows the rendered image on an X window while it
renders it. When it's done (or I want to interrupt it), I:

- Press q to stop povray.
- Alt+tab to get back to the editor.

  If your version of povray doesn't display the image it's rendering,
you should get one which does.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 10:46:29
Message: <491d9d55$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Alessio Sangalli <ale### [at] manowebcom> wrote:
>> The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
>> she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
>> (for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
>> imagemagick's "display") to see the result.
> 
>   It doesn't have to be so complicated. When I edit a povray file and want
> to make a test render of it, it happens like:
> 

It's not even complicated with emacs (at least in linux).  If I have a shell window
running tcsh and an emacs window, I do:

in emacs window: cntl-S
in shell window (to repeat my last render command): !pov enter  (!p if I've not issued
any other p... commands)
    or "cntl-p" until I reach the last pov command, then enter

Lightning fast.  Well under one second.

The shell can be within an emacs window, if I prefer (which I don't).

That's it.  It's not worth worrying about shortcuts.

Dan


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From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 10:51:26
Message: <491d9e7e$1@news.povray.org>
Dan Connelly wrote:
> in emacs window: cntl-S
whoops: cntl-X cntl-S.

My fingers know what to do, anyway.. :)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 11:06:08
Message: <5395A4F713BF447391EFC1410A489558@HomePC>
Isn't there one called KPov or something for KDE?

And I believe SciTE is able to launch POV-Ray directly with a
button-press, and it does great syntax highlighting.  Configure POV to
display the output as it renders.

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 11:35:34
Message: <491da8d6$1@news.povray.org>
Dan Connelly escreveu:
> Dan Connelly wrote:
>> in emacs window: cntl-S
> whoops: cntl-X cntl-S.
> 
> My fingers know what to do, anyway.. :)

An experienced emacs user going bloppers.  Just imagine a novice... :P


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: POV-ray (text) editor for beginners
Date: 14 Nov 2008 11:39:53
Message: <491da9d9$1@news.povray.org>
Alessio Sangalli escreveu:
> Hi, every night before going to bed I teach a little bit of POV-ray to
> my wife.
> 
> The most annoying problem is that everytime she wants to see the scene
> she has to save, go to the shell, issue the povray command with some
> (for her) cryptic options and then open up an image viewer (or
> imagemagick's "display") to see the result.

Ever heard of bash history?  Up arrow key to access the last command, or 
CTRL+R + "word" to search for "word" in the history.  more CTRL+R to see 
older entries.

> PS I do *not* want a CAD-like or "visual" editor...

Why not?  Why impose such command line pain to your wife?  Women would 
certainly enjoy modelling with curves visually rather than typing like a 
geek.


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