Hi,

I have been trying to reply to messages in p.b-images using the web-view 
version of the newsgroups. Every time I try to reply, I am sent to log 
in. After logging in, I go back to the log in screen. Going back to 
p.b-images, I try to reply once again. The situation loops. I tried 
changing my password--which was successful--but I am still unable to 
reply to messages.

None of this would matter if Thunderbird would reliably let me reply to 
image-bearing messages in the first place.

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Sam

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stbenge wrote:
> I have been trying to reply to messages in p.b-images using the web-view 
> version of the newsgroups. Every time I try to reply, I am sent to log 
> in. After logging in, I go back to the log in screen. Going back to 
> p.b-images, I try to reply once again. The situation loops. I tried 
> changing my password--which was successful--but I am still unable to 
> reply to messages.
> 
> None of this would matter if Thunderbird would reliably let me reply to 
> image-bearing messages in the first place.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated!

I am not aware of Thunderbird having problems to reply to any newsgroups 
(using it myself). Nor the web view having such problems.

	Thorsten, POV-Team

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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Any ideas would be appreciated!
> 
> I am not aware of Thunderbird having problems to reply to any newsgroups 
> (using it myself). Nor the web view having such problems.

The problem with Thunderbird is that it insists on taking the same 
amount of time loading up the reply window as it does downloading the 
image of the original post. It's as if I'm replying with the posted 
image, but of course I'm not. Sometimes it takes even longer than this, 
making it very difficult to reply to most posts in p.b-images...

Sam

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stbenge wrote:
> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
>> stbenge wrote:
>>> Any ideas would be appreciated!
>>
>> I am not aware of Thunderbird having problems to reply to any 
>> newsgroups (using it myself). Nor the web view having such problems.
> 
> The problem with Thunderbird is that it insists on taking the same 
> amount of time loading up the reply window as it does downloading the 
> image of the original post. It's as if I'm replying with the posted 
> image, but of course I'm not. Sometimes it takes even longer than this, 
> making it very difficult to reply to most posts in p.b-images...

The problem with Thunderbird is that is seriously re-downloads the whole 
message when replying rather than using the local cached copy. It does the 
same for IMAP email servers (a known bug), but it does seem like the bug has 
not yet been reported for (NNTP) newsgroup servers yet. So you might want to 
do that...

As for the web view, it definitely does not have that problem. I just tried 
replying to a p.b.i message and it worked like it should.

	Thorsten, POV-Team

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> Any ideas would be appreciated!

Wild guess: Did you accidentally deny some cookies from
news.povray.org? I don't use the web interface but on other
sites it is often the trouble when logging in doesn't work
properly. You might check in your privacy settings.

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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>> Any ideas would be appreciated!
> 
> Wild guess: Did you accidentally deny some cookies from
> news.povray.org? I don't use the web interface but on other
> sites it is often the trouble when logging in doesn't work
> properly. You might check in your privacy settings.

Gah! That's what it was, all right. I get so used to denying all useless 
cookies that I forget to allow the important ones in. There's a bigger 
lesson in there somewhere...

Thanks, Christian!

Sam

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stbenge nous illumina en ce 2008-08-08 18:35 -->
> Hi,
> 
> I have been trying to reply to messages in p.b-images using the web-view 
> version of the newsgroups. Every time I try to reply, I am sent to log 
> in. After logging in, I go back to the log in screen. Going back to 
> p.b-images, I try to reply once again. The situation loops. I tried 
> changing my password--which was successful--but I am still unable to 
> reply to messages.
> 
> None of this would matter if Thunderbird would reliably let me reply to 
> image-bearing messages in the first place.
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated!
> 
> Sam
I never encoutered any problem replying to messages containing images, including 
attached, inline and HTML.
If I want to keep the image(s) with my reply, I just hold the shift key when 
clicking the reply button.


"The problem with Thunderbird is that is seriously re-downloads the whole 
message when replying rather than using the local cached copy. It does the same 
for IMAP email servers (a known bug), but it does seem like the bug has not yet 
been reported for (NNTP) newsgroup servers yet. So you might want to do that..."

Thorsten, I already reported about that problem a long time ago. It's the same 
problem that cause a message to be re-downloaded when saving the attachment(s).

The answer I got was that Thunderbird had no way to know it the attachment was 
in cache or not, and assumed that it was not there. A sane aproach would be to 
first check the cache and only request it if not found localy...

-- 
Alain
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Keep your boss’s boss off your boss’s back.

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Alain wrote:
> "The problem with Thunderbird is that is seriously re-downloads the whole
> message when replying rather than using the local cached copy. It does the
> same for IMAP email servers (a known bug), but it does seem like the bug
> has not yet been reported for (NNTP) newsgroup servers yet. So you might
> want to do that..."
> 
> Thorsten, I already reported about that problem a long time ago. It's the
> same problem that cause a message to be re-downloaded when saving the
> attachment(s).
> 
> The answer I got was that Thunderbird had no way to know it the attachment
> was in cache or not, and assumed that it was not there. A sane aproach
> would be to first check the cache and only request it if not found
> localy...
> 

I had Thunderbird *always* re-download messages. With or without
attachments.

Looks like there are two options:
- keep a cache that expires whenever you switch to another folder/newsgroup
or close Thunderbird.
- download EVERYTHING the newsgroup has, and keep it locally (mark the
newsgroup "available offline").

There is no way to configure Thunderbird to behave like a web browser: when
you download something, keep it cached forever unless the cache is getting
too big; but don't download stuff you don't look at.

Sad that the best newsreader I have ever used was Outlook Express...

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