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From: David Buck
Subject: IRTC Update
Date: 22 Apr 2008 00:06:44
Message: <480d6454$1@news.povray.org>
I thought I'd let you know the status of the new web site since it's 
been a while since we announced the IRTC revival project.

The coding is coming along well.  I've captured the historical 
information from the existing site and I'll have that available on the 
new site.  Working components include the main page, the history of 
prior rounds, login, registration, voting and submitting.  I'm working 
out the details of the awarding process.  I should be able to get the 
code basically ready within a week or two.

I expect to get the HTML and CSS for the web site by mid May from our 
graphics artist.  After that, I'll need to spend a bit of time 
re-working the rendering part of the code to match this HTML.

I'm hoping to get the IRTC site running under the new code in early 
June.  At that time, you should be able to view the prior rounds and 
register yourself in the site.  You can choose a user name separate from 
your e-mail address which will remain private.

The IRTC Stills competition normally starts on an odd month so 
July-August 2008 will likely be the first round in the new Stills 
competition.  The animation round will likely start Aug 15th and finish 
October 15th.

I'm looking forward to getting everything running as quickly as possible.

David Buck


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 22 Apr 2008 03:10:09
Message: <480d8f51$1@news.povray.org>
Great news indeed!! Looking forward to the first topic. Thanks for your 
efforts, David, and all the good luck to bring this about.

Thomas


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 22 Apr 2008 07:18:12
Message: <480dc974@news.povray.org>
David Buck wrote:
> The IRTC Stills competition normally starts on an odd month so 
> July-August 2008 will likely be the first round in the new Stills 
> competition.  The animation round will likely start Aug 15th and finish 
> October 15th.

This causes the animation round to be a two-month deal, whereas before 
it was three months (it used to run from July to October).  Was this an 
intentional change?

Regards,
John


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 22 Apr 2008 08:41:43
Message: <480ddd07$1@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:
> David Buck wrote:
>> The IRTC Stills competition normally starts on an odd month so 
>> July-August 2008 will likely be the first round in the new Stills 
>> competition.  The animation round will likely start Aug 15th and 
>> finish October 15th.
> 
> This causes the animation round to be a two-month deal, whereas before 
> it was three months (it used to run from July to October).  Was this an 
> intentional change?
> 
> Regards,
> John

My apologies - I intend to keep it as a three month round.  We'll run it 
from July to October.

David Buck


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 23 Apr 2008 12:35:00
Message: <web.480f643da51bebeb44fe7d810@news.povray.org>
David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> I thought I'd let you know the status of the new web site since it's
> been a while since we announced the IRTC revival project.
>
....
> I'm looking forward to getting everything running as quickly as possible.
>
> David Buck

Thanks for keeping us informed and for all your hard work.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: John D  Gwinner
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 23 Apr 2008 23:15:16
Message: <480ffb44$1@news.povray.org>
"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message 
news:480ddd07$1@news.povray.org...

Sounds very exciting!

> My apologies - I intend to keep it as a three month round.  We'll run it 
> from July to October.

One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can resume 
the normal schedule?

It could even be posted on the web site, not everyone may be reading the NG 
or be subscribed to the mailing list.

     == John ==


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 25 Apr 2008 11:27:28
Message: <4811f860$1@news.povray.org>
John D. Gwinner wrote:
> "David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message 
> news:480ddd07$1@news.povray.org...
> 
> Sounds very exciting!
> 
>> My apologies - I intend to keep it as a three month round.  We'll run it 
>> from July to October.
> 
> One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can resume 
> the normal schedule?
> 
> It could even be posted on the web site, not everyone may be reading the NG 
> or be subscribed to the mailing list.
> 
>      == John == 
> 
> 

I'm not the one responsible for coming up with the topic.  In fact, this 
brings up a bigger question - who is going to be an IRTC administrator? 
  Who is going to choose the topics, reject invalid submissions, verify 
the awards, administer user accounts (reset passwords, etc).

I could volunteer to do it for a while, but we really need someone or a 
small group to fill this role.

As for topics, I have a suggestion:

	Topic:  Re-birth
	Description: Something coming back to life after a long hiatus

It seems appropriate :-)

David Buck


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From: Jan Dvorak
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 25 Apr 2008 12:40:07
Message: <48120967$1@news.povray.org>
David Buck napsal(a):
> John D. Gwinner wrote:
>> "David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message 
>> news:480ddd07$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> Sounds very exciting!
>>
>>> My apologies - I intend to keep it as a three month round.  We'll run 
>>> it from July to October.
>>
>> One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can 
>> resume the normal schedule?
>>
>> It could even be posted on the web site, not everyone may be reading 
>> the NG or be subscribed to the mailing list.
>>
>>      == John ==
>>
> 
> I'm not the one responsible for coming up with the topic.  In fact, this 
> brings up a bigger question - who is going to be an IRTC administrator? 
>  Who is going to choose the topics, reject invalid submissions, verify 
> the awards, administer user accounts (reset passwords, etc).
> 
> I could volunteer to do it for a while, but we really need someone or a 
> small group to fill this role.
> 
> As for topics, I have a suggestion:
> 
>     Topic:  Re-birth
>     Description: Something coming back to life after a long hiatus
> 
> It seems appropriate :-)
> 
> David Buck
I agree with the topic

-- 
You know you've been raytracing too long when...
you start thinking up your own "You know you've been raytracing too long 
when..." sigs (I did).
-Johnny D


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 25 Apr 2008 14:28:14
Message: <481222be$1@news.povray.org>
David Buck wrote:
> As for topics, I have a suggestion:
> 
>     Topic:  Re-birth
>     Description: Something coming back to life after a long hiatus
> 
> It seems appropriate :-)
> 

Perfect :-)

John

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.


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From: Randal L  Schwartz
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 25 Apr 2008 14:34:52
Message: <86r6cteqbe.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "David" == David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> writes:

David> 	Topic:  Re-birth
David> 	Description: Something coming back to life after a long hiatus

Hmm.  How do you draw a picture of "smalltalk"? :)

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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 25 Apr 2008 15:11:45
Message: <48122cf1$1@news.povray.org>
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>> "David" == David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> writes:
> 
> David> 	Topic:  Re-birth
> David> 	Description: Something coming back to life after a long hiatus
> 
> Hmm.  How do you draw a picture of "smalltalk"? :)
> 

It might be better to draw a picture of the Seaside :-).

Historically, the symbol for Smalltalk has been the hot air balloon. 
That came from the cover of the August 1981 Byte Magazine by Robert 
Tinney.  In previous editions of Byte Magazine, Smalltalk was described 
as a language that lived in an ivory tower.  In August 1981, they had 
several articles focusing on Smalltalk and the cover represented 
Smalltalk leaving the ivory tower in a hot air balloon.

	http://www.byte.com/art/9608/img/086bl3a1.htm

For the IRTC, however, I'd like to focus on ray tracing and not the 
technology behind the web site.

Another question:  Would anyone mind if we put two or three hotlinked 
credit images (tastefully done) on the site to link to my web site (web 
site programming by Simberon), a link to the graphic artists' web site 
(I don't yet know if he wants this), and a link to the Seaside web site 
(powered by Seaside)?  Or do you feel this would be inappropriate?

Thanks
David Buck


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 25 Apr 2008 15:16:26
Message: <48122e0a$1@news.povray.org>
David Buck wrote:
> Another question:  Would anyone mind if we put two or three hotlinked
> credit images (tastefully done) on the site to link to my web site (web
> site programming by Simberon), a link to the graphic artists' web site
> (I don't yet know if he wants this), and a link to the Seaside web site
> (powered by Seaside)?  Or do you feel this would be inappropriate?
> 
> Thanks
> David Buck

I see no problem with that. You're giving us a lot and it's only fair
that you get something in return.
BTW Enclosed 2 virtual beer tokens to keep the creative juices flowing :-)

John

-- 
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 26 Apr 2008 15:31:29
Message: <48138311@news.povray.org>
John D. Gwinner wrote:
> One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can resume 
> the normal schedule?

Topics really shouldn't be posted ahead of time, or people will start 
working on them ahead of time.

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 26 Apr 2008 16:24:40
Message: <48138f88$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> John D. Gwinner wrote:
>> One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can 
>> resume the normal schedule?
> 
> Topics really shouldn't be posted ahead of time, or people will start 
> working on them ahead of time.

This is a legitimate concern, but ... can't resist stupid reply:

Recently, i didn't even manage to start working on the 
topics IN time ;)

-M


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 26 Apr 2008 18:30:47
Message: <4813ad17@news.povray.org>
David Buck escribió:
> Another question:  Would anyone mind if we put two or three hotlinked 
> credit images (tastefully done) on the site to link to my web site (web 
> site programming by Simberon), a link to the graphic artists' web site 
> (I don't yet know if he wants this), and a link to the Seaside web site 
> (powered by Seaside)?  Or do you feel this would be inappropriate?

All that and a "Powered by Smalltalk" too :)

On a website I did last year with some friends, I added *six* 80x15 icons:

Valid HTML
Valid CSS
Powered by PHP
Coded by hand (ie. no silly WYSIWYG)
Works For Me :)
and a link to Firebug, which helped a lot to debug the CSS


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From: pan
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 27 Apr 2008 10:20:34
Message: <48148bb2@news.povray.org>
"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message 
news:4811f860$1@news.povray.org...
> As for topics, I have a suggestion:
>
> Topic:  Re-birth
> Description: Something coming back to life after a long hiatus
>

restore; restoration
phoenix, avatar, reincarnate, ressurect
wheel of life
renovate, refurbish, rebuild, recondition
reestablish
update, repair, reinvigorate, refresh
recover, reinstate
renew
regenerate, reintroduce
represent
return
reraise, refloat, reissue
bring back, reinstantiate
reorganize, redo, revise, revamp, recycle, rewrite


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 27 Apr 2008 14:44:45
Message: <4814c99d$1@news.povray.org>
Markus Altendorff wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> John D. Gwinner wrote:
>>> One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can 
>>> resume the normal schedule?
>>
>> Topics really shouldn't be posted ahead of time, or people will start 
>> working on them ahead of time.
> 
> This is a legitimate concern, but ... can't resist stupid reply:
> 
> Recently, i didn't even manage to start working on the topics IN time ;)
> 
> -M

Although, it might be interesting to announce the topic for a round at 
the beginning of the previous round.  So essentially, rounds would last 
four months, but one would conclude every two months.  You'd have to 
pick and choose which rounds to compete in, as you wouldn't have time to 
do all of them justice.

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 27 Apr 2008 17:30:00
Message: <4814f058$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:

> Topics really shouldn't be posted ahead of time, or people will start 
> working on them ahead of time.

I think the point of the suggestion was to *allow* people to
start early on the first round, there being no current round
to exhaust their energies on ;)


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 28 Apr 2008 08:54:30
Message: <4815c906$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> John D. Gwinner wrote:
>> One idea - could the topic be posted ahead of time and then we can 
>> resume the normal schedule?
> 
> Topics really shouldn't be posted ahead of time, or people will start 
> working on them ahead of time.

This is only a problem if the topic is made known to some people before 
it becomes public.  Otherwise nobody has any advantage over anyone else, 
so it's all fair.

Regards,
John


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From: John D  Gwinner
Subject: Re: IRTC Update
Date: 28 Apr 2008 19:27:50
Message: <48165d76$1@news.povray.org>
"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote in message 
news:4814f058$1@news.povray.org...
> Chambers wrote:
>
>> Topics really shouldn't be posted ahead of time, or people will start 
>> working on them ahead of time.
>
> I think the point of the suggestion was to *allow* people to
> start early on the first round, there being no current round
> to exhaust their energies on ;)

Exactly!

    == John ==


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