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From: Steve Shelby
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as Open Source
Date: 2 Feb 2007 06:40:06
Message: <45c32316@news.povray.org>
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> Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd. is pleased to advise that it has
> acquired the rights to the 3d modeller 'Moray' from Lutz and Markus......
Wow, that's great news. I'm really happy that Moray will not only survive
but will undoubtably prosper and improve. Thanks Lutz and Markus for all the
years you gave.
Steve Shelby
http://www.shelbyvision.com
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From: Marc
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as Open Source
Date: 2 Feb 2007 07:04:15
Message: <45c328bf$1@news.povray.org>
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le message de news: 45c31221@news.povray.org...
> Actually this is happening now - see the long threads on pov-ray includes.
> The site will be flexible enough to accommodate moray models.
>
> -- Chris
pov-ray includes? is that a group that I am not aware of?
can't find anything like it in the group list :-(
Marc
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"Marc" <jac### [at] wanadoo fr> wrote:
> le message de news: 45c31221@news.povray.org...
> > Actually this is happening now - see the long threads on pov-ray includes.
> > The site will be flexible enough to accommodate moray models.
> >
> > -- Chris
>
> pov-ray includes? is that a group that I am not aware of?
> can't find anything like it in the group list :-(
>
> Marc
http://news.povray.org/povray.general/thread/%3C456b29c7$1@news.povray.org%3E/?ttop=237611&toff=50
Stephen
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From: Marc
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as Open Source
Date: 2 Feb 2007 08:13:34
Message: <45c338fe$1@news.povray.org>
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web.45c334164a1d3fd8f1cb1e660@news.povray.org...
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http://news.povray.org/povray.general/thread/%3C456b29c7$1@news.povray.org%3E/?ttop=237611&toff=50
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> Stephen
>
Thank you :-)
Marc (Flushes ashamed and feels dumb)
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In article <45c1c908$1@news.povray.org>, deletethis-newsadmin2
@deletethistoo.povray.org says...
> [Followups set to povray.general]
>
> 1 February 2007
> ---------------
>
> The following is a joint announcement from Persistence of Vision Raytrace
r
> Pty. Ltd. ('POV'), Lutz Kretzschmar (Lutz) and Markus Lutz (Markus).
>
> Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd. is pleased to advise that it ha
s
> acquired the rights to the 3d modeller 'Moray' from Lutz and Markus.
>
Wow...!!
Does this mean it might finally include, at minimum, a setting to make
the handedness work the same between them? lol But seriously, this is
unbelievable news.
--
void main () {
call functional_code()
else
call crash_windows();
}
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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as Open Source
Date: 7 Feb 2007 07:16:01
Message: <45c9c301$1@news.povray.org>
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Wow!
Moray was my first approach to 3d - and to POV-Ray.
In spite of the little time I'v used it, I can declare that it is a very
nice application.
Many thanks to Lutz and Markus for the work (and the fish, of course).
;-)
Paolo
> "Chris Cason" wrote:
> [Followups set to povray.general]
>
> 1 February 2007
> ---------------
>
> The following is a joint announcement from Persistence of Vision Raytracer
> Pty. Ltd. ('POV'), Lutz Kretzschmar (Lutz) and Markus Lutz (Markus).
>
> Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd. is pleased to advise that it has
> acquired the rights to the 3d modeller 'Moray' from Lutz and Markus. Moray
is
> a Windows program specifically designed to create 3d models and scenes to
be
> used with the POV-Ray raytracer, and was originally sold as trialware.
[...]
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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as Open Source
Date: 12 Feb 2007 02:01:42
Message: <45d010d6@news.povray.org>
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Chris Cason wrote:
> The current version 3.7 development codebase will be made publicly available
> at around the same time as the Moray codebase. This will allow the public to
> assist, if they wish, in completing version 3.7 of POV-Ray and will also
> assist in the transition to 4.0.
Did noone else notice this? So we'll get access to the 3.7 codebase
before it's finished?
Cool :)
...Chambers
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:01:39 -0800, Ben Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
>Chris Cason wrote:
>> The current version 3.7 development codebase will be made publicly available
>> at around the same time as the Moray codebase. This will allow the public to
>> assist, if they wish, in completing version 3.7 of POV-Ray and will also
>> assist in the transition to 4.0.
>
>Did noone else notice this? So we'll get access to the 3.7 codebase
>before it's finished?
Hmm, yeah, I read right over that point. I'll be interested to look at the code,
however, I won't
likely have much to add. I have studied the 3.6 code quite a bit and, from what I've
read, it
seems that the 3.7 code is an extensive rewrite towards better management and
extensibility. Should
be interesting...
Kyle
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as OpenSource
Date: 13 Feb 2007 07:04:03
Message: <45d1a933@news.povray.org>
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Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:
> I have studied the 3.6 code quite a bit and, from what I've read, it
> seems that the 3.7 code is an extensive rewrite towards better management
> and extensibility.
That's indeed true. While 3.7 is not a complete rewrite from scratch,
it's still a vast improvement on the 3.6 code. The latter uses tons and
tons of ugly hacks such as global variables and other solutions which are
thread-unsafe, most of which are needlessly so.
Making code thread-safe automatically makes code better because
thread-safeness forces a higher degree of modularity. :)
--
- Warp
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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Announcement: Moray acquired by POV-Ray; to be released as OpenSource
Date: 13 Feb 2007 21:30:33
Message: <45d27449$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:
>
>>I have studied the 3.6 code quite a bit and, from what I've read, it
>>seems that the 3.7 code is an extensive rewrite towards better management
>>and extensibility.
>
>
> That's indeed true. While 3.7 is not a complete rewrite from scratch,
> it's still a vast improvement on the 3.6 code. The latter uses tons and
> tons of ugly hacks such as global variables and other solutions which are
> thread-unsafe, most of which are needlessly so.
>
> Making code thread-safe automatically makes code better because
> thread-safeness forces a higher degree of modularity. :)
How far along is the conversion to C++ code? I've been converting my
modeler from C to C++, and I keep wincing at the evil code that I first
wrote.
I wonder how many times the POV-Ray coders look at something and say
"Good lord, did *I* write that?"
Regards,
John
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