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From: Chris B
Subject: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 6 Jan 2007 08:55:01
Message: <459faa35$1@news.povray.org>
Happy New Year,

This posting is a follow-up to the discussions last year on setting up a 
directory on povray.org  for a collection of objects that anyone can freely 
download and use.

The plan is to now start building this. I've mocked up a simple prototype 
and Chris Cason has offered to set up an area on the server where we can 
construct what we need and integrate it with the server-side database and 
file system. We should also be getting a newsgroup where we can cover any 
outstanding issues and manage the setup and longer term operations of this 
facility.

You can help:
 1. One or two people with DHTML/Javascript, PHP and/or SQL experience and 
spare time over the next few weeks are needed to help with setup.
 2. One or more people will be needed to oversee the various parts of the 
collection once it's up and running. This means checking new submissions 
regularly to make sure they're well indexed, clearly described and correctly 
categorised, monitoring the newsgroup etc. This will need people with a few 
spare hours each week over the long term. Reasonably good vocabulary skills, 
but no particular technical skills are required for this (apart from an 
understanding of POV-Ray obviously).

Any volunteers?

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 6 Jan 2007 16:17:49
Message: <45a011fd$1@news.povray.org>
Chris B wrote:
> Happy New Year,

You too :)

>  2. One or more people will be needed to oversee the various parts of the 
> collection once it's up and running. This means checking new submissions 
> regularly to make sure they're well indexed, clearly described and correctly 
> categorised, monitoring the newsgroup etc. This will need people with a few 
> spare hours each week over the long term. Reasonably good vocabulary skills, 
> but no particular technical skills are required for this (apart from an 
> understanding of POV-Ray obviously).

I can help with this.

...Chambers


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From: Olaf Doschke
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 7 Jan 2007 06:33:08
Message: <45a0da74$1@news.povray.org>
> You can help:
> 1. One or two people with DHTML/Javascript, PHP and/or SQL experience and 
> spare time over the next few weeks are needed to help with setup.
I think I have sufficient knowledge to setup such an object
repository, but unfortunately my free time finishes today.

Some recommendations: When thinking bout DHTML/Javascript
nowadays AJAX comes to mind, and Prototype is the nicest on,
that was also recommended to me so far, especially with PHP:
http://prototype.conio.net/

Furthermore, Scriptaculous, which is based on that prototype
framework provides some nice Ajax features: http://script.aculo.us/

I'd bet the povray website already is data based, so one could also
stay with the technologies used there now.

> 2. One or more people will be needed to oversee the various parts of the 
> collection once it's up and running.

I'd say besides some people having some administrative rights, that
could also be done in a community effort. Especially the correct
indexing of objects is a matter of taste. Instead of classical categorizations,
which never really work nice, I'd plead for the more and more used
tagging of the objects, which means labelling objects with many
keywords, on which it can be found. Take a look at http://.last.fm,
which uses this kind of tagging for music.

Bye, Olaf.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 7 Jan 2007 09:23:15
Message: <45a10253$1@news.povray.org>
Chris B wrote:
> Happy New Year,

And the same to you, too.

> 
> You can help:
>  1. One or two people with DHTML/Javascript, PHP and/or SQL experience and 
> spare time over the next few weeks are needed to help with setup.
>  2. One or more people will be needed to oversee the various parts of the 
> collection once it's up and running. This means checking new submissions 
> regularly to make sure they're well indexed, clearly described and correctly 
> categorised, monitoring the newsgroup etc. This will need people with a few 
> spare hours each week over the long term. Reasonably good vocabulary skills, 
> but no particular technical skills are required for this (apart from an 
> understanding of POV-Ray obviously).
> 
> Any volunteers?
> 
> Regards,
> Chris B. 
> 
> 

I'll offer to help. I'm more suited to the 2nd, as my Javascript skills
are pretty lame. If it's needed, though, I'll pull out the books and
help with the anything.


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From: Olaf Doschke
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 7 Jan 2007 09:50:19
Message: <45a108ab$1@news.povray.org>
> which never really work nice, I'd plead for the more and more used
> tagging, which means labelling objects with many
> keywords, on which it can be found. Take a look at http://.last.fm,
> which uses this kind of tagging for music.

Sorry, it's http://last.fm Above link has a point too much.

Bye, Olaf.


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 19 Jan 2007 09:18:55
Message: <45b0d34f@news.povray.org>
Would everything be presumed public domain,  or Creative Commons Attribution
license, or will you provide a filter for non-free objects (someone
mentioned tagging)?


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 19 Jan 2007 14:06:22
Message: <45b116ae$1@news.povray.org>
"Greg M. Johnson" <pte### [at] thecommononethatstartswithYcom> wrote in 
message news:45b0d34f@news.povray.org...
> Would everything be presumed public domain,  or Creative Commons 
> Attribution
> license, or will you provide a filter for non-free objects (someone
> mentioned tagging)?
>

Hi Greg,

When people submit things they'll need to accept that their work will be 
distributed under the license covering the collection, in perpetuity, even 
if that license changes in the future.

When the collection kicks-off, we'll use the CC-LGPL which allows royalty 
free re-use, modification and re-distribution.
The license may change in the future if a more appropriate license becomes 
available. If it does change, then anyone who downloads work under the 
CC-LGPL will be able to choose whether to continue with that or move to the 
new license.

There was a discussion about having a tag for objects not distributed under 
the same license, but this would mean that users would have to keep track of 
multiple licenses once they've downloaded objects. It was concluded that 
there are plenty of other places where anyone not wishing to contribute 
under the terms of the common license could post their work.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: waggy
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 21 Jan 2007 16:15:01
Message: <web.45b3d6fbaf3a7b66442464bf0@news.povray.org>
"Chris B" <c_b### [at] btconnectcomnospam> wrote:
....
>  1. One or two people with DHTML/Javascript, PHP and/or SQL experience and
> spare time over the next few weeks are needed to help with setup.

I can help some here.  (Experience: ~15yr SQL, ~10yr DHTML/Javascript, <5yr
PHP, off and on.)  I've gone back to school (civil engineering), but
usually manage to make some time.

>  2. One or more people will be needed to oversee the various parts of the
> collection once it's up and running. This means checking new submissions
> regularly to make sure they're well indexed, clearly described and correctly
> categorised, monitoring the newsgroup etc. This will need people with a few
> spare hours each week over the long term. Reasonably good vocabulary skills,
> but no particular technical skills are required for this (apart from an
> understanding of POV-Ray obviously).
>
> Any volunteers?

I can help here, as well, or wherever there is the greater need.  I'm
particularly interested in textures, algorithmic objects, and animation.
(Experience dates back to POV-Ray--though not DKBTrace--on an Amiga 2500, I
can't remember when.)

I second the 'keyword tagging over categorizing' suggestion.

-David Wagner


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From: millican
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 26 Jan 2007 12:38:01
Message: <45ba3c79@news.povray.org>
I'm still learning PHP/MySQL, but I'm willing to help.
You can reach me by my email. Just note that the email address is not in the
right order. edu should come after uark.
-tom


Chris B wrote:

> Happy New Year,
> 
> This posting is a follow-up to the discussions last year on setting up a
> directory on povray.org  for a collection of objects that anyone can
> freely download and use.
> 
> The plan is to now start building this. I've mocked up a simple prototype
> and Chris Cason has offered to set up an area on the server where we can
> construct what we need and integrate it with the server-side database and
> file system. We should also be getting a newsgroup where we can cover any
> outstanding issues and manage the setup and longer term operations of this
> facility.
> 
> You can help:
>  1. One or two people with DHTML/Javascript, PHP and/or SQL experience and
> spare time over the next few weeks are needed to help with setup.
>  2. One or more people will be needed to oversee the various parts of the
> collection once it's up and running. This means checking new submissions
> regularly to make sure they're well indexed, clearly described and
> correctly categorised, monitoring the newsgroup etc. This will need people
> with a few spare hours each week over the long term. Reasonably good
> vocabulary skills, but no particular technical skills are required for
> this (apart from an understanding of POV-Ray obviously).
> 
> Any volunteers?
> 
> Regards,
> Chris B.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Object Collection - Next
Date: 6 Feb 2007 10:15:00
Message: <web.45c89aebaf3a7b66f2ff13290@news.povray.org>
Hello, and sorry for the long absence, i took some long vacations away from
computers, but now i'm back.  I guess i could help somewhat with PHP, but
i'm not really that keen with AJAX and heavy javascript usage...


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