A small group of enthusiastic volunteers has started to go through the links
from the POV-Ray links pages to track down broken links and validate the
descriptions. Once we've got the links data up to date it'll be loaded
onto the web site, which is currently a couple of years out of date.

We're also looking at re-organising the categories to make the links pages 
easier to use and maintain. I've posted a couple of diagrams on 
'povray.binaries' in the thread entitled 'POV-Ray link Categories' see 
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C4464518c%40news.povray.org%3E/.

Please take a look and see if you think this is likely to meet your own 
needs and those of newcomers to POV-Ray.
The aim is to finalise a design by the end of May.
Please use this thread to contribute to the discussion.

Regards,
Chris B.

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"Chris B" <c_b### [at] btconnectcomnospam> wrote in message 
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   Hi Chris

      If it's any help at all, I've just done a Xenu broken link render and 
saved it as an .htm file. It's nearly 4MB, so if you want it, let me know 
where I can send it. Looking at the report, there are a lot of things to do 
to tidy the site up. (Nearly 5,500 links! About 1,600 broken).

      ~Steve~

>
> Regards,
> Chris B.
>
>
>
>

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:44646f66@news.povray.org...
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> "Chris B" <c_b### [at] btconnectcomnospam> wrote in message 
> news:4464526c$1@news.povray.org...
>
>   Hi Chris
>
>      If it's any help at all, I've just done a Xenu broken link render and 
> saved it as an .htm file. It's nearly 4MB, so if you want it, let me know 
> where I can send it. Looking at the report, there are a lot of things to 
> do to tidy the site up. (Nearly 5,500 links! About 1,600 broken).
>
>      ~Steve~
>

Hi Steve,
That sounds like a few more than we're looking at. We've focused just on the 
resource links that are generated from a links database and we have 1044 
links with 282 that were reported as broken.
So far we've fixed about half of the broken ones, but we're not going to be 
updating the web site until we've checked out the 'non-broken' ones too and 
finished reorganising the categories.

I'd be interested to know where such a big difference comes from though. You 
didn't scan the whole povrag.org domain did you? because that would include 
the newsgroups which probably contain a large number of broken links that 
we're not looking to fix. If it's not that, then I'd be interested in seeing 
the listing, but 4MB is too big for my email account. What does it compress 
down to? Otherwise do you have a web site you could publish it onto?

Regards,
Chris B.

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Chris B wrote:
> A small group of enthusiastic volunteers has started to go through the links
> from the POV-Ray links pages to track down broken links and validate the
> descriptions. Once we've got the links data up to date it'll be loaded
> onto the web site, which is currently a couple of years out of date.

I would really consider maintaining at least parts of the link 
collection in form of a wiki so maintainance work can be better 
distributed.  Otherwise the work you put into it now will get outdated 
very soon again.  If you don't want to open up the collection completely 
for editing it might already help to allow everyone to add comments 
(like mentioning changed addresses or updates) to every link.

Christoph

-- 
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http://www.imagico.de/ (Last updated 04 May. 2006)
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"Chris B" <c_b### [at] btconnectcomnospam> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:44646f66@news.povray.org...
>>
>> "Chris B" <c_b### [at] btconnectcomnospam> wrote in message

> Hi Steve,
> That sounds like a few more than we're looking at. We've focused just on 
> the resource links that are generated from a links database and we have 
> 1044 links with 282 that were reported as broken.
> So far we've fixed about half of the broken ones, but we're not going to 
> be updating the web site until we've checked out the 'non-broken' ones too 
> and finished reorganising the categories.
>
> I'd be interested to know where such a big difference comes from though. 
> You didn't scan the whole povrag.org domain did you?

   Yes, I did, I wasn't sure if it would pick up the newsgroups, but it did.


because that would include
> the newsgroups which probably contain a large number of broken links that 
> we're not looking to fix. If it's not that, then I'd be interested in 
> seeing the listing, but 4MB is too big for my email account. What does it 
> compress down to? Otherwise do you have a web site you could publish it 
> onto?

     It compressed to 220kb's which you can find directly here: 
http://website.lineone.net/~25ct/povray_broken_link_report.zip

     It still may be useful to you as a visual guide.

      ~Steve~


>
> Regards,
> Chris B.
>

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I am not sure if I understand, why you have not your website doing it 
automatically.

It is soo easy to use common PHP scripts (surely also ASP and others) to 
execute each time on page load a text, if each of the links still works and 
to remove those links where the target file isn't available anymore.

Why to decide for the stress to have yourself doing each few years this job? 
Let the scripts do it, each time on link page load.

Best greetings,

Sven




"Chris B" <c_b### [at] btconnectcomnospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4464526c$1@news.povray.org...
>A small group of enthusiastic volunteers has started to go through the 
>links
> from the POV-Ray links pages to track down broken links and validate the
> descriptions. Once we've got the links data up to date it'll be loaded
> onto the web site, which is currently a couple of years out of date.
>
> We're also looking at re-organising the categories to make the links pages 
> easier to use and maintain. I've posted a couple of diagrams on 
> 'povray.binaries' in the thread entitled 'POV-Ray link Categories' see 
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C4464518c%40news.povray.org%3E/.
>
> Please take a look and see if you think this is likely to meet your own 
> needs and those of newcomers to POV-Ray.
> The aim is to finalise a design by the end of May.
> Please use this thread to contribute to the discussion.
>
> Regards,
> Chris B.
>
>
>
>

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Sven Littkowski wrote:
> I am not sure if I understand, why you have not your website doing it 
> automatically.
> 
> It is soo easy to use common PHP scripts (surely also ASP and others) to 
> execute each time on page load a text, if each of the links still works and 
> to remove those links where the target file isn't available anymore.

You should have followed the original discusion. And thought a bit about 
what your suggestion implies: With each temporary server failure links would 
get removed. After some time, there would bee no more links left. And links 
would not be updated to point to the most current location either.

	Thorsten

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Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> You should have followed the original discusion. And thought a bit about 
> what your suggestion implies: With each temporary server failure links would 
> get removed. After some time, there would bee no more links left. And links 
> would not be updated to point to the most current location either.

  Also, in some few cases the contents of an existing page might become
obsolete and irrelevant, not worth linking.

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                                                          - Warp

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Warp wrote:
>   Also, in some few cases the contents of an existing page might become
> obsolete and irrelevant, not worth linking.

Somebody should tell Google :-( Currently the English-language version 
returns <http://library.advanced.org/3285/> as second hit when searching for 
"povray" or "pov-ray"...

	Thorsten

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> You should have followed the original discusion. And thought a bit about 
> what your suggestion implies: With each temporary server failure links 
> would get removed. After some time, there would bee no more links left. 
> And links would not be updated to point to the most current location 
> either.

Well, the outdated links don't neccessarily needs to get removed out of the 
database. They could remain inside, also for future statistical reasons. But 
if a link does not function anymore, it will just not be displayed anymore.

And since the test is executed each time, it will display again once the 
target exists again.

Not only that. The test would include a search for certain keywords related 
to that subject, or (another idea) a search for certain keywords which will 
exclude the link from being disdplayed (keywords such as "porn", "viagra", 
etc.).

Greetings,

Sven

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