Is there anybody interested in collective project?
The idea is not new:

http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/3/main/
http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/1/

But in our case it could be done in POV-Ray. For
example we could make super still life. We can agree
on a template scene which could have just a table
with some default lighting (for consistency of the
final image). The table should have seamless edges.
So that its right edge should match its left edge.
And eventually it will be just one very long table :)
Then everybody who wants to participate just takes
the template scene and creates his/her own still life.
I just don't know where we could keep all that stuff :)
Any ideas about rules, deadline etc.? I appreciate any
input.

Gena.

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I like the idea, and I like the idea that the final image does not 
depend on single contributions, e.g. everybody can fully concentrate on 
his thing, without having to worry about if it will fit with the other 
scenes etc.

> But in our case it could be done in POV-Ray. For
> example we could make super still life. We can agree
> on a template scene which could have just a table
> with some default lighting (for consistency of the
> final image). The table should have seamless edges.
> So that its right edge should match its left edge.
> And eventually it will be just one very long table :)

The table is a very good idea, too, however seamless edges and a 
consistent lighting may be hard to achieve, except you use some high 
ambient settings, which IMHO does not look good (and will propably make 
radiosity renders impossible).

If you're supplying a template scene, I'd be glad to join :)

Florian
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camera{look_at-y*10location<8,-3,-8>*10}#local a=0;#while(a<999)sphere{
#local _=.01*a-4.99;#local p=a*.01-5;#local c=.01*a-4.995;<sin(p*pi)*5p
*10pow(p,5)*.01>sin(c*c*c*.1)+1pigment{rgb 3}}#local a=a+1;#end
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Gena <gen### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Is there anybody interested in collective project?
> The idea is not new:
>
> http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/3/main/
> http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/1/
>
> But in our case it could be done in POV-Ray. For
> example we could make super still life. We can agree
> on a template scene which could have just a table
> with some default lighting (for consistency of the
> final image). The table should have seamless edges.
> So that its right edge should match its left edge.
> And eventually it will be just one very long table :)
> Then everybody who wants to participate just takes
> the template scene and creates his/her own still life.
> I just don't know where we could keep all that stuff :)
> Any ideas about rules, deadline etc.? I appreciate any
> input.

> Gena.

What sort of theme did you have in mind, if any?

ADB

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> What sort of theme did you have in mind, if any?
I would not set up a specific theme, but let all participants model what 
they want to. I think it gets much more interesting like that and the 
chance of reoccuring ideas is smaller. The combining idea would be the 
table everything is placed on.

I would not set up a deadline, either, just provide the template scene, 
put the whole project somewhere it's viewed often and be patient :)

Florian
-- 
camera{look_at-y*10location<8,-3,-8>*10}#local a=0;#while(a<999)sphere{
#local _=.01*a-4.99;#local p=a*.01-5;#local c=.01*a-4.995;<sin(p*pi)*5p
*10pow(p,5)*.01>sin(c*c*c*.1)+1pigment{rgb 3}}#local a=a+1;#end
/******** http://www.torfbold.com ******** http://www.imp.org ********/

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I will participate in this project by suplying one of the "tiles".

JWV

"Gena" <gen### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
news:417615de$1@news.povray.org...
> Is there anybody interested in collective project?
> The idea is not new:
>
> http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/3/main/
> http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/1/
>
> But in our case it could be done in POV-Ray. For
> example we could make super still life. We can agree
> on a template scene which could have just a table
> with some default lighting (for consistency of the
> final image). The table should have seamless edges.
> So that its right edge should match its left edge.
> And eventually it will be just one very long table :)
> Then everybody who wants to participate just takes
> the template scene and creates his/her own still life.
> I just don't know where we could keep all that stuff :)
> Any ideas about rules, deadline etc.? I appreciate any
> input.
>
> Gena.
>

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"Florian Brucker" <tor### [at] torfboldcom> wrote in message
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> > What sort of theme did you have in mind, if any?
> I would not set up a specific theme, but let all participants model what
> they want to. I think it gets much more interesting like that and the
> chance of reoccuring ideas is smaller. The combining idea would be the
> table everything is placed on.
>
> I would not set up a deadline, either, just provide the template scene,
> put the whole project somewhere it's viewed often and be patient :)
>
> Florian

It could be kind of fun. the hardest part would be making a table template
that looks good when all the images are lined up. what other settings would
have to be set in stone for the template? default gamma, AA depth/type,
radiosity? what about adding other lights to an individual "tile" of the
scene? Say I made a still life that had a lamp on it? would we need fade
distance and fade power such that the light wouldn't reach the edges of our
section of the table? or no other lights are allowed?

-ross

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Anthony D. Baye wrote:

> Gena <gen### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>> Is there anybody interested in collective project?
>> The idea is not new:
>>
>> http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/3/main/
>> http://www.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo2/pkp/1/
>>
>> But in our case it could be done in POV-Ray. For

Sounds interesting - are you going to make a template available somewhere?
Or a page? Will you decide which "square" goes to whom?

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician
Polar Design Solutions

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I'll try to recap our preliminary discussion.

Unfortunately I don't have any spare web space.
That's why as a first step we could post images in
p.b.images newsgroup. Maybe later on somebody will
shelter the project.

Assuming that project name is 'Super Still Life'
posted images could have the following names:
ssl-1.jpg, ssl-2.jpg etc.

This weekend I'll try to prepare a template scene -
ssl-template.pov I think the only "solid" stuff in
the scene will be the table and camera position. That
will allow seamless flow from one image to another.
I'm afraid that pre-defined lights and background
will be too restrictive. More likely I'll use isowood
by Christoph Hormann for the table. If you have any
ideas for another table material please let me know.

You are free to use any lighting, HDRI, radiosity and
post-processing. The initial image must be rendered
in POV-Ray. Image size is a question for discussion.
I suggest to use 800*600 so that horizontal scroll
wouldn't take too much time :) But you should be ready
to render your scene in magazine/poster resolution in
case any Museum of Modern Arts will ask for exposition :)

There is no any particular theme. So povers are free
to use everything they consider as a Still Life. It could
comprise of fruits, vegetables, meat, fast food, any
exotic dishes from different cuisines, any kitchen
utensils, glasses, goblets etc. etc. etc. You can also
put your own table cloth on the table. Just keep table
edges open so that next image could be "connected" to
yours. Fantasy and creativity should be one of the main
"components" of the image. Because of different moral,
religious and ethic norms in different countries be
cautious with nudes, erotic and sexual scenes.

This is a free and non-commercial project. Everybody
keeps all rights on his/her image, scene. Nobody has
a copyright for the whole project/images. Availability
of source files is not required. Authors can put their
names/signatures on images, preferably as embedded
somehow to the image (e.g. free-hand writing on a
napkin etc.).

Everybody is welcomed to join the project. The number
of entries is unlimited. Just make sure that they are
really differ from each other :) When you finish your
image just take next available name for the image
(ssl-x.jpg where 'x' is a next available number) and
display it in p.b.images. Please use the following
subject for your posting:
SSL-x
where 'x' is a number of your image.

And finally there is no deadline. Let's work on it
whenever we have spare time.

Hopefully I covered everything :)

Gena.

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> Unfortunately I don't have any spare web space.
> That's why as a first step we could post images in
> p.b.images newsgroup. Maybe later on somebody will
> shelter the project.
If web space is the only problem here, I'd be happy to supply some. 
Although I think first posting the images to pbi is a good idea 
nevertheless.

> This weekend I'll try to prepare a template scene -
> ssl-template.pov I think the only "solid" stuff in
> the scene will be the table and camera position. That
> will allow seamless flow from one image to another.
> I'm afraid that pre-defined lights and background
> will be too restrictive. More likely I'll use isowood
> by Christoph Hormann for the table. If you have any
> ideas for another table material please let me know.
IMHO we have to decide which approach we want: There's the "all images 
share a table element" way or the "that looks like a long table where 
everybody put different stuff on" approach. I personally like the second 
one better, i.e. one with the same background etc. in every image. But 
I'm open to everything here :)

Florian
-- 
camera{look_at-y*10location<8,-3,-8>*10}#local a=0;#while(a<999)sphere{
#local _=.01*a-4.99;#local p=a*.01-5;#local c=.01*a-4.995;<sin(p*pi)*5p
*10pow(p,5)*.01>sin(c*c*c*.1)+1pigment{rgb 3}}#local a=a+1;#end
/******** http://www.torfbold.com ******** http://www.imp.org ********/

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How about a "Still Life Museum"? Some arrangements could each be on their
own seperate table
and there could be a long table in the center.

I'm seeing a large hall, with high stained glass windows. I have a staned
glass window in my object
collection I could contribute...  Marble floors...

I like the idea anyway, any thoughts?

ADB

Florian Brucker wrote:

> > Unfortunately I don't have any spare web space.
> > That's why as a first step we could post images in
> > p.b.images newsgroup. Maybe later on somebody will
> > shelter the project.
> If web space is the only problem here, I'd be happy to supply some.
> Although I think first posting the images to pbi is a good idea
> nevertheless.
>
> > This weekend I'll try to prepare a template scene -
> > ssl-template.pov I think the only "solid" stuff in
> > the scene will be the table and camera position. That
> > will allow seamless flow from one image to another.
> > I'm afraid that pre-defined lights and background
> > will be too restrictive. More likely I'll use isowood
> > by Christoph Hormann for the table. If you have any
> > ideas for another table material please let me know.
> IMHO we have to decide which approach we want: There's the "all images
> share a table element" way or the "that looks like a long table where
> everybody put different stuff on" approach. I personally like the second
> one better, i.e. one with the same background etc. in every image. But
> I'm open to everything here :)
>
> Florian
> --
> camera{look_at-y*10location<8,-3,-8>*10}#local a=0;#while(a<999)sphere{
> #local _=.01*a-4.99;#local p=a*.01-5;#local c=.01*a-4.995;<sin(p*pi)*5p
> *10pow(p,5)*.01>sin(c*c*c*.1)+1pigment{rgb 3}}#local a=a+1;#end
> /******** http://www.torfbold.com ******** http://www.imp.org ********/

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