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From: Thomas Barnes
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 11:30:53
Message: <3f97f42d$1@news.povray.org>
I hope this is the best place to post this.

I am getting back into povray (have been away for a while. . since ver 2) I
had a registered copy of Moray for windows but I lost the registration key
and am looking into getting a new modeler.

Has anyone used any of these? Moray Povlab 3d canvas or AC3D. I have tried
the evaluation versions but they are crippled so I can not really get a good
feel until I invest a lot of time and money.

Which modeler program offers the best value for the full registration price?

PD, I am also partial to Linux ( but Windows has better graphic drivers for
my video card )
thanks

-Thomas


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From: ABX
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 11:37:50
Message: <v7tfpv4o9f167b7p0lr806bj78ca5t36ab@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:30:55 -0600, "Thomas Barnes"
<thomas_D0t-barnes-@t-barnestormer.com> wrote:
> Which modeler program offers the best value for the full registration price?

If you mean true returning to POV-Ray then I think only Moray follows its new
features.

> PD, I am also partial to Linux ( but Windows has better graphic drivers for
> my video card )

What does it mean "better" in this context ? Stable ? Faster ?

ABX


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From: Warp
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 11:55:20
Message: <3f97f9e8@news.povray.org>
Thomas Barnes <thomas_D0t-barnes-@t-barnestormer.com> wrote:
> I
> had a registered copy of Moray for windows but I lost the registration key
> and am looking into getting a new modeler.

  You should probably contact the author with regard to this issue.

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sphere{0,2pigment{rgbt 1}interior{media{emission 1density{spherical
density_map{[0rgb 0][.5rgb<1,.5>][1rgb 1]}turbulence.9}}}scale
<1,1,3>hollow}text{ttf"timrom""Warp".1,0translate<-1,-.1,2>}//  - Warp -


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From: Thomas Barnes
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 12:07:31
Message: <3f97fcc3$1@news.povray.org>
Yes, I am primarily interested in the ability to integrate with Povray's
functions (radiosity, import, export to pov, etc.).

I had Moray, I liked it very much,. I sent a letter to the folks at Moray
about restoring my key and registration but got no reply. . besides, Moray
is about 30% more $ than the rest.

> What does it mean "better" in this context ? Stable ? Faster ?
I would say faster and <seemingly> more stable. I am using a NVIDIA ti 4600
and the Linux kernel 2.4.20 I get some screen corruption when I engage the
openGL function of the driver provided by NVIDIA (sometimes)  I don't think
going to .22 will help this.


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From: ABX
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 12:18:54
Message: <5mvfpv8nl1ndt5gug9977jsr88ho5i1uka@4ax.com>
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:07:26 -0600, "Thomas Barnes"
<thomas_D0t-barnes-@t-barnestormer.com> wrote:
> I had Moray, I liked it very much,. I sent a letter to the folks at Moray
> about restoring my key and registration but got no reply. . besides, Moray
> is about 30% more $ than the rest.

In case you did not noticed this there are dedicated groupd on this server for
moray. It can be that Moray maintainers can look here more often than to some
mailbox. Supports works their own ways ;-)

ABX


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From: Tom Galvin
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 13:50:11
Message: <Xns941D8C84C322Dtomatimporg@204.213.191.226>
"Thomas Barnes" <thomas_D0t-barnes-@t-barnestormer.com> wrote in
news:3f97f42d$1@news.povray.org: 

> 
> Has anyone used any of these? Moray Povlab 3d canvas or AC3D. I have
> tried the evaluation versions but they are crippled so I can not
> really get a good feel until I invest a lot of time and money.
> 
> Which modeler program offers the best value for the full registration
> price? 
> 

I like Moray, and the upgrade price is discounted significantly from the 
list price.  Also check out the Open Source tools.

http://jpatch.sourceforge.net/
http://www.blender3d.org/
http://yaprm.sourceforge.net/
http://www.bottlenose.demon.co.uk/share/fracplanet/index.htm
http://pdelagrange.free.fr/povlab/


-- 
Tom
_________________________________
The Internet Movie Project
http://www.imp.org/


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From: Roberto A 
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 16:11:32
Message: <3f9835f4@news.povray.org>
> I like Moray, and the upgrade price is discounted significantly from the
> list price.  Also check out the Open Source tools.
>
> http://jpatch.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.blender3d.org/
> http://yaprm.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.bottlenose.demon.co.uk/share/fracplanet/index.htm
> http://pdelagrange.free.fr/povlab/

Don't forget the excellent Wings3D.

http://www.wings3d.com/

Regards,

Roberto


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From: Txemi Jendrix
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 17:13:49
Message: <3f98448d@news.povray.org>

mensaje news:3f97f42d$1@news.povray.org...
> I hope this is the best place to post this.
>
> I am getting back into povray (have been away for a while. . since ver 2)
I
> had a registered copy of Moray for windows but I lost the registration key
> and am looking into getting a new modeler.

> Has anyone used any of these? Moray Povlab 3d canvas or AC3D. I have tried
> the evaluation versions but they are crippled so I can not really get a
good
> feel until I invest a lot of time and money.

I use Moray (upgraded to version 3.5 recently). If you had Moray in the
past,
you only have to learn the new features (mesh editor, basically) and enjoy
others (OpenGL views, p.e.).
I think is the best modeller for Povray.
The evaluation version is not limited in any way (AFAIK), so you can use it
and decide.
Povlab, also AFAIK, is freeware since 2 or 3 years ago but it stopped its
development and it is still frozen.
I tried 3d canvas long ago, but it was so buggy that I forgot about it.
I haven't tried AC3D.

> Which modeler program offers the best value for the full registration
price?

IMHO Moray is the best. Apart of it, I use freeware modellers like:
Hamapatch, Anim8or, Wings3d and utilities like Poseray or UVMapper.
Hope this helps.

Txemi Jendrix
http://www.txemijendrix.com


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From: Lutz Kretzschmar
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Date: 23 Oct 2003 23:25:29
Message: <sp6hpvc3mdr1bn1c1q0rj32bku9indb8e2@4ax.com>
Hi Thomas Barnes, you recently wrote in povray.general:

> I had Moray, I liked it very much,. I sent a letter to the folks at Moray
> about restoring my key and registration but got no reply. 
Sorry, but I never received any mail from you (but I do have pretty
aggresive spam filters). 

Anyway, it's not a problem to get a copy of the registration email....

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray


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From: Lutz Kretzschmar
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Date: 26 Oct 2003 13:03:27
Message: <kv2opvgv5dtinig5115h7alccl2therrmu@4ax.com>
Hi Thomas Barnes, you recently wrote in povray.general:

> I had Moray, I liked it very much,. I sent a letter to the folks at Moray
> about restoring my key and registration but got no reply. . 
Well, it looks like you didn't get a reply this time either... 

The email I sent you bounced and came back.... maybe your mail program
is configured incorrectly? The address I sent it to was thomas.barnes
(at) barnestormer.com
Actually, your domain seems to not be resolvable by our mail server:
 <-- 421 barnestormer.com DNS lookup failed: no name found
 --> QUIT

Regards,

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray


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