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|  |  | Here are some results on the new AMD Opteron for those who are 
interested in rendering times.
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263
Fabien H
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|  |  | Fabien HENON <fab### [at] free fr> wrote:
> http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263
  It would be quite awesome if a 1GHz Itanium II can render about three
times faster than a 1.8GHz Opteron or a 2.8GHz Xeon.
  Since that one was not made by them, I wonder if there's some other
explanation (eg. the one who made the test used no antialiasing or the
wrong resolution).
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|  |  | On Thu, 01 May 2003 23:23:40 +0000, Fabien HENON wrote:
> Here are some results on the new AMD Opteron for those who are 
> interested in rendering times.
> 
> 
> http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263
> 
> Fabien H
Was the Opteron running on a optimized self-compile, or was it the stock
download from povray.org?  I didn't notice any mention of it on the page
and there wasn't any mention in the link.
-->Jeff
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|  |  | Program ended abnormally on 5/1/03 7:05 PM, Due to a catastrophic
earthdog error:
> On Thu, 01 May 2003 23:23:40 +0000, Fabien HENON wrote:
> 
> 
>>Here are some results on the new AMD Opteron for those who are 
>>interested in rendering times.
>>
>>
>>http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263
>>
>>Fabien H
> 
> 
> Was the Opteron running on a optimized self-compile, or was it the stock
> download from povray.org?  I didn't notice any mention of it on the page
> and there wasn't any mention in the link.
> 
"The standard binary distribution from the POV-Ray site was used (running Linux)."
Second line of the paragraph below the results.
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|  |  | On Thu, 01 May 2003 20:58:46 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> Was the Opteron running on a optimized self-compile, or was it the stock
>> download from povray.org?  I didn't notice any mention of it on the page
>> and there wasn't any mention in the link.
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> "The standard binary distribution from the POV-Ray site
> was used (running Linux)."
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> Second line of the paragraph below the results.
Oops.  Missed that, didn't I?  But that would explain some of the problem?
-->Jeff
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|  |  | earthdog wrote:
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> Oops.  Missed that, didn't I?  But that would explain some of the
> problem?
Using different compiles would indeed invalidate the results (unless
both compiles were done by the same compiler, and optimized for each
CPU, which was not the case here).
I suspect that an Opteron-optimized compile would do considerably
better.
Regards,
John
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> earthdog wrote:
> 
>>Oops.  Missed that, didn't I?  But that would explain some of the
>>problem?
> 
> 
> Using different compiles would indeed invalidate the results (unless
> both compiles were done by the same compiler, and optimized for each
> CPU, which was not the case here).
> 
Depends on what you want to test.
For the test they show, if they wanted to see the relative speed
of the processor running old-code application, using the same binary 
distribution for all would have been mandatory, which should have
rules out the Itanium2 measurement (which I do not trust either, yet).
If they wanted to see the relative speed of the processor doing 
something serious and real (and ray-tracing IS a real thing, not
like the classical benchmarks doing loop in the CPU cache), they might 
have include the Itanium2 results, but to be fair they should have done
a custom compile (if available) of each system and application.
> I suspect that an Opteron-optimized compile would do considerably
> better.
I hope so, but it may take more time for it than for the Itanium2: Intel 
make the optimising compiler for that one (but will it be available
at the same price as the Gnu/Linux for everybody, I really doubt that).
I believe an opteron-compile would perform better, and it might
even be 'interesting' to rewrite Povray as multithreaded rendering 
engine (I know the FAQ about that, just dreaming, with a 3 or 4 Opterons 
system, just to keep the memory latency low).
I also believe the Itanium2-version will be out-of-reach for the
mundane like me, and the performance with the Gnu suite are still 
unknown (better or worst than the Opteron, who know ?).
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|  |  | > and the performance with the Gnu suite are still
> unknown (better or worst than the Opteron, who know ?).
But we know exactly what to expect from GCC :P
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