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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 2 Jul 2002 13:51:36
Message: <3d21e828@news.povray.org>
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. . . is now open.
http://10best.raytrace.com/short2/shortvote2.html
Votes accepted until July 17th, 2002.
Thanks to Mr. W3 ABX Skiba for help in rendering (and to numerous others
who offered it earlier).
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 2 Jul 2002 15:18:32
Message: <3d21fc88@news.povray.org>
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Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aol co:-(m> wrote:
> . . . is now open.
> http://10best.raytrace.com/short2/shortvote2.html
Would it be possible that next time you could use some smarter program
to reduce the size of the images (for the thumbnails)? It looks like the
program you used reduced the images simply by dropping rows and columns
of pixels, which is not really nice.
The images with most little details suffer the most from this. They end
up looking like random noise.
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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 2 Jul 2002 17:19:42
Message: <3D2218BB.1010503@videotron.ca>
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Greg wrote:
> . . . is now open.
> http://10best.raytrace.com/short2/shortvote2.html
>
> Votes accepted until July 17th, 2002.
Hmm... You might want to correct the typo on the viewing page:
" * The voting period will close July 176h, 2002, at midnight (time
stamp on your email)."
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/* flabreque */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/* @ */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/* videotron.ca */}camera{location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a orthographic}
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On 2 Jul 2002 15:18:32 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tag povray org> wrote:
> Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aol co:-(m> wrote:
> > . . . is now open.
> > http://10best.raytrace.com/short2/shortvote2.html
>
> Would it be possible that next time you could use some smarter program
> to reduce the size of the images (for the thumbnails)? It looks like the
> program you used reduced the images simply by dropping rows and columns
> of pixels, which is not really nice.
> The images with most little details suffer the most from this. They end
> up looking like random noise.
You are right. I missed this during conversion. I had no scope on thubnail
smoothing since I had already set Lanczos filter in my IrfanView. Looks like
batch converting in IrfanView has no setup for resize filter so I assume it
should get the same as for normal converting. But it doasn't. Greg I will
upload zip with correct thubnails after ten minutes at the same place as
previously.
ABX
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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 3 Jul 2002 18:25:49
Message: <3d2379ed@news.povray.org>
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Should be fixed in an hour or so.
Q: are the 800's the best they can be??
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 3 Jul 2002 18:41:52
Message: <3d237db0@news.povray.org>
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Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aol co:-(m> wrote:
> Q: are the 800's the best they can be??
I would have made my images a LOT better, but with only 500 bytes available
it's not easy... ;)
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N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}// - Warp -
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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 3 Jul 2002 18:59:02
Message: <3d2381b6@news.povray.org>
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Errr, I mean is the render-quality of the 800's ok: I don't mean technical
merit and all that.............
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 3 Jul 2002 19:13:43
Message: <3d238527@news.povray.org>
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Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aol co:-(m> wrote:
> Errr, I mean is the render-quality of the 800's ok: I don't mean technical
> merit and all that.............
I knew that.
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N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 6 Jul 2002 18:32:16
Message: <3d276ff0$1@news.povray.org>
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Aaah. Some versions of IE will squish an image down to fit the browser
window if they are larger than the size it wants to give them. The
squishing is apparently "AA 0.0."
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 6 Jul 2002 21:31:47
Message: <3d279a03@news.povray.org>
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Greg M. Johnson <gregj:-)56590@ao:-)l.com> wrote:
> Aaah. Some versions of IE will squish an image down to fit the browser
> window if they are larger than the size it wants to give them. The
> squishing is apparently "AA 0.0."
Which is, of course, another braindead idea from MS.
I suppose that it can be turned off...
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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 6 Jul 2002 21:48:45
Message: <3d279dfd$1@news.povray.org>
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yep. This makes a *big* difference for one of the entries, but I won't say
which one...
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Warp wrote:
>
> Greg M. Johnson <gregj:-)56590@ao:-)l.com> wrote:
> > Aaah. Some versions of IE will squish an image down to fit the browser
> > window if they are larger than the size it wants to give them. The
> > squishing is apparently "AA 0.0."
>
> Which is, of course, another braindead idea from MS.
> I suppose that it can be turned off...
If someone knows how let me know.
--
Ken Tyler
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 6 Jul 2002 23:41:05
Message: <3d27b851$1@news.povray.org>
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote :
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> If someone knows how let me know.
Yes. I know how.
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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 7 Jul 2002 06:38:36
Message: <3d281a2c$1@news.povray.org>
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote in message
news:3D279E02.169380FF@pacbell.net...
> If someone knows how let me know.
>
http://wp.netscape.com/computing/download/index.html?cp=hop05ft6
Perhaps this beats Bill's answer for wit?
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 7 Jul 2002 07:06:15
Message: <3d2820a7@news.povray.org>
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Greg M. Johnson <gregj:-)56590@ao:-)l.com> wrote:
> http://wp.netscape.com/computing/download/index.html?cp=hop05ft6
I suppose that you mean:
http://mozilla.org/releases/
Why use an older version when a newer is available?
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N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
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On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 18:48:50 -0700 Ken wrote:
>> Which is, of course, another braindead idea from MS.
>> I suppose that it can be turned off...
>
>If someone knows how let me know.
In MSIE 6.0, menu item Tools|Internet Options|Advanced|Enable
Automatic Image Resizing.
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ako### [at] povray org
a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
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Alan Kong wrote:
> In MSIE 6.0, menu item Tools|Internet Options|Advanced|Enable
> Automatic Image Resizing.
Thanks, Alan.
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Ken Tyler
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 8 Jul 2002 11:59:11
Message: <3d29b6cf$1@news.povray.org>
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote in message
news:3D2### [at] pacbell net...
>
>
> Alan Kong wrote:
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> > In MSIE 6.0, menu item Tools|Internet Options|Advanced|Enable
> > Automatic Image Resizing.
>
> Thanks, Alan.
And, of course, if you hover over the image, a graphic pops up that allows you
to toggle between screen size/image size.
Actually, I quite like this option - I could do with an easier universal toggle
and some sort of indicator that resizing has taken place, but whenever I've
turned it off completely, I pretty soon end up turning it back on again.
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:59:11 +0100 Tom Melly wrote:
>Actually, I quite like this option - I could do with an easier universal toggle
>and some sort of indicator that resizing has taken place, but whenever I've
>turned it off completely, I pretty soon end up turning it back on again.
It sort of grew on me, and now I like it, too. I regularly download
larger-than-my-browser window images from my favorite WRC site. It's
nice not to have to scroll the window to see the rest of the images.
--
Alan
ako### [at] povray org
a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:31:55 -0400, "Greg M. Johnson"
<gregj;-)565### [at] aol co:-(m> wrote:
> . . . is now open.
> http://10best.raytrace.com/short2/shortvote2.html
> Votes accepted until July 17th, 2002.
I hope that playing with new official people don't forget to participate in
voting. What is the current status of it ?
> Thanks to Mr. W3 ABX Skiba
I didn't noticed this mistake earlier but I'm W�odzimierz which can be
simplified to Wlodzimierz (the second letter is stroked L). I hope that when
registered www.povray.org users would have posting feature then it should fix
my language caprice.
ABX
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From: TinCanMan
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 11 Jul 2002 07:41:31
Message: <3d2d6eeb$1@news.povray.org>
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> I didn't noticed this mistake earlier but I'm W³odzimierz which can be
> simplified to Wlodzimierz (the second letter is stroked L). I hope that
when
> registered www.povray.org users would have posting feature then it should
fix
> my language caprice.
>
> ABX
I had been wondering what the little superscript '3' meant :)
Now how do you pronounce this this?
-tgq
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 11 Jul 2002 08:09:31
Message: <3d2d757b$1@news.povray.org>
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"TinCanMan" <Tin### [at] hotmail com> wrote :
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> I had been wondering what the little superscript '3' meant :)
> Now how do you pronounce this this?
Just like it's spelled. With difficulty.
Vladimir with a Russian accent?
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest, Round Two, display and voting page
Date: 14 Jul 2002 11:19:10
Message: <3d31966d@news.povray.org>
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TinCanMan <Tin### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
>> I didn't noticed this mistake earlier but I'm W³odzimierz which can be
> I had been wondering what the little superscript '3' meant :)
This means that you are using the ISO-8859-1 charset (aka. ISO-Latin-1),
which is the most common charset.
If you are going to use characters with values >127, you'll better use
the Latin-1 charset or just transliterate to ASCII, or else most people in
the world will see the wrong characters (as happened in this case). You just
can't assume that everyone in the world uses the same charset as you
(you can more or less assume this for the Latin-1 charset, even though not
*everyone* uses it, but most people by default).
(Of course this depends a lot where you are. In Japan the most common
charsets are Shift JIS and EUC JP.)
In webpages the situation is better because you can tell the charset to
use in the headers of the page (and then it's only up to the viewer to have
the proper browser support and font to view it).
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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
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