Full version of Poser 3.....

http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/

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B<3)#while(I[B])A[mod(I[B],10)]+#local I[B]=div(I[B],10);#end<-5,-
2,9>#local B=B+1;#end}#end #local A=array[7]{x,x*2,x*4,y,y*2,y*4,z
}light_source{-x*6-z*9,1}mesh{G(105,10,146)G(105,246,10)G(105,56,
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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> Full version of Poser 3.....
>
> http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/

Is their an upgrade offer with it?

(Don't forget that Computer Arts is a Future Publising magazine and their
name is mud around here.)

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> (Don't forget that Computer Arts is a Future Publising magazine and their
> name is mud around here.)

Why is that Alan?

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"CJ" <hou### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message
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> > (Don't forget that Computer Arts is a Future Publising magazine and
their
> > name is mud around here.)
>
> Why is that Alan?
>

Go to section 8.1 of the POV help file (the legal document bit) and have a
butchers at the 'Revocation of Licence' section.  Interesting reading... :O)

And I meant publisHing.  Feh.  Keyboards!

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In article <3c5ecc3f$1@news.povray.org>,
 "CJ" <hou### [at] yahoocom> wrote:

> > (Don't forget that Computer Arts is a Future Publising magazine and their
> > name is mud around here.)
> 
> Why is that Alan?

Just take a look at povlegal.doc...

"In  this  regard,  "PC  Format",  a  magazine published at the time by
Future Publishing, Ltd. in the United Kingdom, distributed  incomplete
versions of  POV-Ray� 1.0  in violation  of the  license which  was in
effect at the  time. They later  attempted to distribute  POV-Ray� 2.2
without prior permission of the POV-Team� in violation of the  license
which was in effect  at the time. After  the POV-Team� was made  aware
of their intent,  they were contacted  and were granted  permission in
return for  certain promises  they made.  They subsequently  failed to
honor these promises. 

There is  evidence that  other Future  Publishing companies  have also
violated our terms. PC  Format's actions, particularly in  relation to
the incomplete  v1.0 distribution  (which simply  didn't work properly
due to  files that  had been  deleted to  fit on  the magazine's cover
floppy  disk  -  causing  many  users  to  blame us for the faults and
complain  to  us  in  email)  caused  us  un-needed stress and support
headaches. 

Therefore "PC Format",  and any other  magazine, book, CD-ROM,  or any
other type of  publication owned in  whole or part  by, or related  in
any other way, to Future  Publishing is expressly prohibited from  any
distribution of POV-Ray� software."

-- 
Christopher James Huff <chr### [at] maccom>
POV-Ray TAG e-mail: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
TAG web site: http://tag.povray.org/

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Wonder what those broken promises were... not that it matters much.

"Christopher James Huff" <chr### [at] maccom> wrote in message
news:chr### [at] netplexaussieorg...
> In article <3c5ecc3f$1@news.povray.org>,
>  "CJ" <hou### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Just take a look at povlegal.doc...
>
> After  the POV-Team� was made  aware
> of their intent,  they were contacted  and were granted  permission in
> return for  certain promises  they made.  They subsequently  failed to
> honor these promises.

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This affected me a while back when I wrote a double page POV tutorial for
PCReview, a UK based PC mag (now defunct, but published by Future
Publishing). The tutorial ran, but without POV on the cover CD, and I
suspect that it was only down to my pointing out to the magazine editor that
Future Publishing were not allowed to distribute POV, that it wasn't put on
the CD AGAIN!

BTW, did anyone actually see that tutorial? It was very basic, but I was
pleased by it. I can't remember offhand which issue it was in, but it was a
couple of years ago.

All the best,

Andy Cocker

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Any idea how long it takes for this mag to get distributed to the 
States? I went looking for it yesterday and only found Dec 2001

Is

Tom Melly wrote:
> Full version of Poser 3.....
> 
> http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/
> 
> --
> #macro G(D,E,F)#local I=array[3]{D,E,F}#local B=0;triangle{#while(
> B<3)#while(I[B])A[mod(I[B],10)]+#local I[B]=div(I[B],10);#end<-5,-
> 2,9>#local B=B+1;#end}#end #local A=array[7]{x,x*2,x*4,y,y*2,y*4,z
> }light_source{-x*6-z*9,1}mesh{G(105,10,146)G(105,246,10)G(105,56,
> 146)G(105,1256,246)G(1256,126,220)G(22156,2216,201)pigment{rgb 1}}//TM
> 
> 
>

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Is wrote:
> 
> Any idea how long it takes for this mag to get distributed to the
> States? I went looking for it yesterday and only found Dec 2001
> 

Same with Australia?

Alex

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"Alex McMurray" <ale### [at] melbpcorgau> wrote in message
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> Is wrote:
> >
> > Any idea how long it takes for this mag to get distributed to the
> > States? I went looking for it yesterday and only found Dec 2001
> >
>
> Same with Australia?

    I called Barnes and Noble and they have Jan. and were expecting Feb.
today.

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:35:12 -0000 Tom Melly wrote:

>Full version of Poser 3.....
>
>http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/

  Tom, does this differ from what you made available, for a time, at your
site?

-- 
Alan
ako### [at] povrayorg
a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g

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"Alan Kong" <ako### [at] povrayWWWSPAMCOMorg> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:35:12 -0000 Tom Melly wrote:
>
> >Full version of Poser 3.....
> >
> >http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/
>
>   Tom, does this differ from what you made available, for a time, at your
> site?

AFAIK it's identical. I do occasionally copy and send the cover-disk I have to
the desperate and needy, so if you can't get hold of one, let me know....

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"Christopher James Huff" <chr### [at] maccom> wrote in message
>
> Just take a look at povlegal.doc...
>


It's a pity that Future didn't play fair. I hadn't noticed that section in
the docs and was surprised to read about it, though I can't blame you guys
for taking the action you did.

Strangely enough, it was through PC Format that I came to POV-Ray in the
first place. They were distributing v2.0 on a coverdisk in 1993 (I think)
and had one of Mike Miller's works (Grinning Jack on his rollercoaster) on
the front cover. I was almost immediately hooked. It's a pity I never got
any good .......

Also interesting is that Future still have nice things to say about POV-Ray.
Computer Arts website links to www.povray.org  for a download of v3.1.
Here's a quote :

"The amazing Persistance (sic) Of Vision Raytracer offers outstanding
professional results..."

(I didn't say they could spell correctly :-)


Cheers

Rob

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Rob Manley wrote:
> ...
> Strangely enough, it was through PC Format that I came to POV-Ray in the
> first place. They were distributing v2.0 on a coverdisk in 1993 (I think)
> and had one of Mike Miller's works (Grinning Jack on his rollercoaster) on
> the front cover. I was almost immediately hooked. It's a pity I never got
> any good .......

Yeah, I bet(!) I bet you're even more rubbish than HE Day, Gilles Tran,
Rune Johansen, Chris Colefax, John van Sickle and David Fontaine put
together!
BTW: Some obscure shareware magazine was where I first got POV 3.0
My computer has never recovered.

> Also interesting is that Future still have nice things to say about POV-Ray.
> Computer Arts website links to www.povray.org  for a download of v3.1.

Just trying to crawl back into POV-Team's good books...

> Here's a quote :
> 
> "The amazing Persistance (sic) Of Vision Raytracer offers outstanding
> professional results..."
> 
> (I didn't say they could spell correctly :-)

'Course not, they've only been making magazines for X number of
decades...

;-)

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On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:09:02 -0000, Rob Manley wrote:
 
> Strangely enough, it was through PC Format that I came to POV-Ray in the
> first place. They were distributing v2.0 on a coverdisk in 1993 (I think)
> and had one of Mike Miller's works (Grinning Jack on his rollercoaster) on
> the front cover. I was almost immediately hooked. It's a pity I never got
> any good .......

A friend of mine saw POV in a mag and told me all about it, I couldn't get
hold of the mag or the software for love nor money, so I took drastic 
measures and finally got round to hooking my PC up to the internet so that
I could find this software.  And yes I did find it on the internet, and 
now my life has changed completely. 

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-((I/I)+l),-ll><ll,-l,ll>pigment{checker scale l}finish{ambient((I/l)/I)+
(l/I)}}sphere{<i-i,l-l,(I/l)>l/l pigment{rgb((I/l)/I)}finish{reflection((
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:13:47 -0000 Tom Melly wrote:

>AFAIK it's identical. I do occasionally copy and send the cover-disk I have to
>the desperate and needy, so if you can't get hold of one, let me know....

  I have it. Thanks, Tom.

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"Alan Holding" <tro### [at] tiscalicouk> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
> news:3c5eb840$1@news.povray.org...
> > Full version of Poser 3.....
> >
> > http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/
>
> Is their an upgrade offer with it?

To answer my own question...

There is an upgrade offer - Poser 3 to 4.03 for £99 (excluding tax and
delivery).  UK and overseas orders taken.  Some details from
http://www.curiouslabs.com/store/specialcdupgrade, though you still need to
telephone the supplier to sort out the price (in the UK at least).

But!  Has anyone heard if Poser 5 is coming out soon?  That's usually when
these kinds of deals start doing the rounds.

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Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> "Alan Kong" <ako### [at] povrayWWWSPAMCOMorg> wrote in message
> news:u1t36ucltsbuehkuebo08b6l0lds79lkjs@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:35:12 -0000 Tom Melly wrote:
> >
> > >Full version of Poser 3.....
> > >
> > >http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/
> >
> >   Tom, does this differ from what you made available, for a time, at your
> > site?
> 
> AFAIK it's identical. I do occasionally copy and send the cover-disk I have to
> the desperate and needy, so if you can't get hold of one, let me know....

Hmm, I may take you up on this - my local Barnes and Noble "may get the
magazine", and has a special issue, but not the Feb. one.  Anyone have a
guess as to how long it might take?  Or is it everywhere where it will
go....

-- 
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"No doubt many that post deserve to be flamed.  And many that are flamed
didn't deserve it.  Can you give them the latter?  Then don't be so
quick to deal out the former!" - not Gandalf.
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It's amazing how Borders and Barnes & Nobles don't have this issue yet.
I've been back a few times and only get blank, slack-jawed typed answers 
from the local pothead employees.

Is


Tom A. wrote:
> 
> Tom Melly wrote:
> 
>>"Alan Kong" <ako### [at] povrayWWWSPAMCOMorg> wrote in message
>>news:u1t36ucltsbuehkuebo08b6l0lds79lkjs@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:35:12 -0000 Tom Melly wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Full version of Poser 3.....
>>>>
>>>>http://www.computerarts.co.uk/magazine/
>>>>
>>>  Tom, does this differ from what you made available, for a time, at your
>>>site?
>>>
>>AFAIK it's identical. I do occasionally copy and send the cover-disk I have to
>>the desperate and needy, so if you can't get hold of one, let me know....
>>
> 
> Hmm, I may take you up on this - my local Barnes and Noble "may get the
> magazine", and has a special issue, but not the Feb. one.  Anyone have a
> guess as to how long it might take?  Or is it everywhere where it will
> go....
> 
>

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