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From: Mitchell Waite
Subject: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 02:05:47
Message: <3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org>
Hi All:

My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.

With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
level is.

Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel free
to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about this
idea.

You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the Books
menu item.

thanks,

Mitchell Waite
mit### [at] mitchwaitecom


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From: Jan Walzer
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 06:47:54
Message: <3c3adc6a@news.povray.org>
Thumbs Up
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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 07:24:15
Message: <3C3AE4ED.4F39E650@gmx.de>
Mitchell Waite wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> 
> With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> level is.
> 
> [...]

Is this somehow realted to the book survey recently started on povray.org:

http://www.povray.org/survey1.html

If not, it might be a good idea not to have two books on the same topic...

Anyway i like the idea, but i personally would prefer a not so much 'how
to create a reflective sphere on checkered ground scene' style book but
more a collection of individual chapters on specific topics.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Arthur Flint
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 07:33:48
Message: <Xns91904CE458C6Emrartchesapeakenet@204.213.191.226>
Mitchell Waite scribis news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org:

> With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> level is.
> 

But of course! Bring it on.

-- 
Gis poste, Arto.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 07:42:48
Message: <3c3ae947@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
: Is this somehow realted to the book survey recently started on povray.org:

  I don't think it's related to that in any way.

: If not, it might be a good idea not to have two books on the same topic...

  Probably a good idea.

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 07:55:28
Message: <3C3AEC0C.9030006@videotron.ca>
Mitchell Waite wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.


... and the reason I've been wasting^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hspending so many hours 
in front of my computer watching pixels appear one by one.

> 
> With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> level is.
> 
> Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel free
> to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about this
> idea.


A wonderful idea.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 08:26:38
Message: <3c3af38e@news.povray.org>
> Is this somehow realted to the book survey recently started on povray.org:

No, in no way related. I only heard of Mitch's idea a few days ago (via
another person). I presume therefore that it is unlikely that Mitch is
considering an 'official' book (unlike the previous WGP POV books, which
were all authored by POV-Team members, and from which those team members
derived royalties.)

-- Chris Cason
   POV-Team Co-ordinator


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 08:39:36
Message: <3c3af698$2@news.povray.org>
Sounds like Great


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 09:41:41
Message: <3c3b0525@news.povray.org>
"Chris Cason" wrote:
> > Is this somehow realted to the book survey
> > recently started on povray.org:
>
> No, in no way related.

Err, are any of the two book projects related to *this* book project:

http://povworld.de/book

?

Rune
--
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Rune's World:    http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated Jan 2)
POV-Ray Users:   http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayusers/
POV-Ray Webring: http://webring.povray.co.uk


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 10:04:39
Message: <3c3b0a87@news.povray.org>
> Err, are any of the two book projects related to *this* book project:
>
> http://povworld.de/book

1) no (well, at least, mine isn't), and
2) what 'two book projects' ? ;)

I'm doing a survey to determine if it's worth doing a book. Technically,
therefore, I don't have a 'book project' per se. But I might have one if
enough people indicate they are interested.

-- Chris


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From: MR
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 12:20:26
Message: <3c3b2a5a$1@news.povray.org>
hi mitchell,

i imagine most of the people here are interested, but i'm
not sure that means its financially feasible.  few of the 80,000
people at renderosity have even heard of povray.  near as i
can tell, there aren't any books out on the amapi 3D software
either.  maybe thats another avenue worth exploring.

good luck, miker

> Hi All:
>
> My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
>
> With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> level is.
>
> Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel free
> to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about
this
> idea.
>
> You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the Books
> menu item.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mitchell Waite
> mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
>
>
>


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From: Mike Williams
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 13:02:48
Message: <nwKejHAYarO8EwP5@econym.demon.co.uk>
Wasn't it Mitchell Waite who wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
>CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.

Didn't you also publish the other POV ray specific book: "RAY TRACING
WORLDS WITH POV-RAY (The OFFICIAL POV-RAY Group Book)"? It says
"Publsiher Mitchell Waite" in my copy.

-- 
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure


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From: Mitchell Waite
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 8 Jan 2002 15:20:53
Message: <3c3b54a5@news.povray.org>
Yes that is correct, I did publish Ray Tracing World.

"Mike Williams" <mik### [at] nospamplease> wrote in message
news:nwK### [at] econymdemoncouk...
> Wasn't it Mitchell Waite who wrote:
> >Hi All:
> >
> >My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> >CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
>
> Didn't you also publish the other POV ray specific book: "RAY TRACING
> WORLDS WITH POV-RAY (The OFFICIAL POV-RAY Group Book)"? It says
> "Publsiher Mitchell Waite" in my copy.
>
> --
> Mike Williams
> Gentleman of Leisure


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From: Harold Baize
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 9 Jan 2002 13:12:18
Message: <3c3c8802@news.povray.org>
My introduction to 3D computer graphics was your
Image Lab book. It is interesting to me that you sold
Waite Group in 1996, maybe that is why all those
good computer graphics books disappeared ;-)

Harold


"Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...
> Hi All:
>
> My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
>
> With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> level is.
>
> Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel free
> to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about
this
> idea.
>
> You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the Books
> menu item.
>
> thanks,
>
> Mitchell Waite
> mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
>
>
>


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From: Mitchell Waite
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 9 Jan 2002 21:27:40
Message: <3c3cfc1c@news.povray.org>
Harold:

That is exactly why those books disappeared. Macmillan aka Simon and
Schuster who I sold to wanted to focus on big thick books on Java and C++
and so on. I was not happy about that, it was one of those hidden agendas.
That is why I want to get back in, to bring those great books like Image Lab
back. I have received a good deal of email from prospective contributors and
I plan to write to all of them shortly with more information

Mitch


"Harold Baize" <bai### [at] itsaucsfedu> wrote in message
news:3c3c8802@news.povray.org...
>
> My introduction to 3D computer graphics was your
> Image Lab book. It is interesting to me that you sold
> Waite Group in 1996, maybe that is why all those
> good computer graphics books disappeared ;-)
>
> Harold
>
>
> "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...
> > Hi All:
> >
> > My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> > CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> >
> > With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> > publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> > level is.
> >
> > Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel
free
> > to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about
> this
> > idea.
> >
> > You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the
Books
> > menu item.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Mitchell Waite
> > mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 10 Jan 2002 13:57:36
Message: <3C3DE3BB.99A81E4B@spiritone.com>
There is a book project going on right now. Development is a little
slow, but the webiste for our book project is http://www.povworld.de/book/

The current idea is an extended and illustrated user documentation as
well as specific tasks in POV-Ray.

Josh English
eng### [at] spiritonecom
http://www.spiritone.com/~english


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From: Mitchell Waite
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 10 Jan 2002 21:58:02
Message: <3c3e54ba@news.povray.org>
I've tried to contract the poeple working on that project to coordinate but
they are not answering my emails.
I'd appreciate if you could find out why.

thanks

Mitch

"Josh English" <eng### [at] spiritonecom> wrote in message
news:3C3DE3BB.99A81E4B@spiritone.com...
> There is a book project going on right now. Development is a little
> slow, but the webiste for our book project is http://www.povworld.de/book/
>
> The current idea is an extended and illustrated user documentation as
> well as specific tasks in POV-Ray.
>
> Josh English
> eng### [at] spiritonecom
> http://www.spiritone.com/~english


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From: oliWood
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 11 Jan 2002 10:34:07
Message: <3C3F05EF.5F4AF7B@durham.ac.uk>
Intrest level = high.  very very very high.

Mitchell Waite wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> 
> With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the interest
> level is.
> 
> Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel free
> to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about this
> idea.
> 
> You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the Books
> menu item.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Mitchell Waite
> mit### [at] mitchwaitecom

-- 
Oliver Wood
University Of Durham

http://www.dur.ac.uk/o.e.wood/


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 11 Jan 2002 11:49:01
Message: <3c3f177d@news.povray.org>
"Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...

<snip>

While, of course, I would buy such a book, I can't help feeling that a well
organised POV-tutorial website might be a better option....


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From: Jerry Stratton
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 11 Jan 2002 22:48:29
Message: <newsw-2F8E75.19483111012002@news.povray.org>
In article <3c3f177d@news.povray.org>, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> 
wrote:
> While, of course, I would buy such a book, I can't help feeling that 
> a well organised POV-tutorial website might be a better option....

I'd love to see a POV-manual website organized like the PHP web site 
(http://www.php.net/manual/); PHP is the only programming 
language/computer thing that I use for which I never feel the need for a 
written manual, because of that site.

Jerry

-- 
http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/


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From: MR
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 14 Jan 2002 14:32:17
Message: <3c433241$1@news.povray.org>
i personally like to have a few hard copy reference/tutorial
books on a lot of the apps i run.  but i can identify with your
opinion.  to put a lot of high-quality color pictures in a book
jacks the price way, way up.

miker

"Tom Melly" said:

> While, of course, I would buy such a book, I can't help feeling that a
well
> organised POV-tutorial website might be a better option....
>
>


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 14 Jan 2002 14:54:27
Message: <3c433773$1@news.povray.org>
"MR" <a### [at] bnet> wrote in message news:3c433241$1@news.povray.org...
> i personally like to have a few hard copy reference/tutorial
> books on a lot of the apps i run.

    Me too, but I hate waiting for and then buying an update everytime there
is a feature change.


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 15 Jan 2002 08:48:53
Message: <3c443345$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
news:3c433773$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "MR" <a### [at] bnet> wrote in message news:3c433241$1@news.povray.org...
> > i personally like to have a few hard copy reference/tutorial
> > books on a lot of the apps i run.
>
>     Me too, but I hate waiting for and then buying an update everytime there
> is a feature change.
>

My thoughts exactly Bill and MR...


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 15 Jan 2002 09:43:06
Message: <3c443ffa$1@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote ;
>
> My thoughts exactly Bill and MR...

    I have 9 oem Autocad manuals and over 30 additional 2nd party Autocad
references. The amount I have spent on books could probably purchase a new
copy of the latest edition.


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From: Maan M  Hamze
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:12:20
Message: <3c473e34$1@news.povray.org>
Mitchell
I have all the books you published on POV Ray (including the one on Moray)
and WinFract and Image Lab.
You are the BEST!
I am glad to see you are thinking about getting back into it.
Maan

"Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
news:3c3cfc1c@news.povray.org...
> Harold:
>
> That is exactly why those books disappeared. Macmillan aka Simon and
> Schuster who I sold to wanted to focus on big thick books on Java and C++
> and so on. I was not happy about that, it was one of those hidden agendas.
> That is why I want to get back in, to bring those great books like Image
Lab
> back. I have received a good deal of email from prospective contributors
and
> I plan to write to all of them shortly with more information
>
> Mitch
>
>
> "Harold Baize" <bai### [at] itsaucsfedu> wrote in message
> news:3c3c8802@news.povray.org...
> >
> > My introduction to 3D computer graphics was your
> > Image Lab book. It is interesting to me that you sold
> > Waite Group in 1996, maybe that is why all those
> > good computer graphics books disappeared ;-)
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> > "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> > news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...
> > > Hi All:
> > >
> > > My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY TRACING
> > > CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> > >
> > > With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking about
> > > publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the
interest
> > > level is.
> > >
> > > Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please feel
> free
> > > to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel about
> > this
> > > idea.
> > >
> > > You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the
> Books
> > > menu item.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Mitchell Waite
> > > mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Maan M  Hamze
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 17 Jan 2002 16:14:54
Message: <3c473ece$2@news.povray.org>
The best books are those that invite you to think and experiment.  Not mere
manuals.  These were the Mitchell Waite books.
This means that these are books that you do not throw whenever there is an
update.
I still have the Waite group books on POV Ray.
Maan

"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
news:3c443ffa$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote ;
> >
> > My thoughts exactly Bill and MR...
>
>     I have 9 oem Autocad manuals and over 30 additional 2nd party Autocad
> references. The amount I have spent on books could probably purchase a new
> copy of the latest edition.
>
>


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From: Mitchell Waite
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 17 Jan 2002 19:32:12
Message: <3c476d0c@news.povray.org>
Well thank you for the kind words Maan. You pretty much sum up my ideas this
time around for a POV Ray book. The POV Ray manual already provides a great
reference, its examples that are in short supply IMHO. I am also thinking
about using Moray as the tool for modeling since it allows one to focus on
the scene rather than the statements. Do you have an opinion on that idea?

Mitch


"Maan M. Hamze" <mmh### [at] pleiadesnet> wrote in message
news:3c473e34$1@news.povray.org...
> Mitchell
> I have all the books you published on POV Ray (including the one on Moray)
> and WinFract and Image Lab.
> You are the BEST!
> I am glad to see you are thinking about getting back into it.
> Maan
>
> "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> news:3c3cfc1c@news.povray.org...
> > Harold:
> >
> > That is exactly why those books disappeared. Macmillan aka Simon and
> > Schuster who I sold to wanted to focus on big thick books on Java and
C++
> > and so on. I was not happy about that, it was one of those hidden
agendas.
> > That is why I want to get back in, to bring those great books like Image
> Lab
> > back. I have received a good deal of email from prospective contributors
> and
> > I plan to write to all of them shortly with more information
> >
> > Mitch
> >
> >
> > "Harold Baize" <bai### [at] itsaucsfedu> wrote in message
> > news:3c3c8802@news.povray.org...
> > >
> > > My introduction to 3D computer graphics was your
> > > Image Lab book. It is interesting to me that you sold
> > > Waite Group in 1996, maybe that is why all those
> > > good computer graphics books disappeared ;-)
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> > > news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY
TRACING
> > > > CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> > > >
> > > > With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking
about
> > > > publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the
> interest
> > > > level is.
> > > >
> > > > Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please
feel
> > free
> > > > to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel
about
> > > this
> > > > idea.
> > > >
> > > > You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the
> > Books
> > > > menu item.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Waite
> > > > mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Dearmad
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 17 Jan 2002 20:48:23
Message: <3C478055.4978611C@applesnake.net>
Mitchell Waite wrote:
> 
> Well thank you for the kind words Maan. You pretty much sum up my ideas this
> time around for a POV Ray book. The POV Ray manual already provides a great
> reference, its examples that are in short supply IMHO. I am also thinking
> about using Moray as the tool for modeling since it allows one to focus on
> the scene rather than the statements. Do you have an opinion on that idea?

I do.  Don't overlook animation techniques.  I think getting into
some of the scripting is good for a discussion of principles
involved.  Or would that be another book?

-peter
> 
> Mitch
> 
> "Maan M. Hamze" <mmh### [at] pleiadesnet> wrote in message
> news:3c473e34$1@news.povray.org...
> > Mitchell
> > I have all the books you published on POV Ray (including the one on Moray)
> > and WinFract and Image Lab.
> > You are the BEST!
> > I am glad to see you are thinking about getting back into it.
> > Maan
> >
> > "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> > news:3c3cfc1c@news.povray.org...
> > > Harold:
> > >
> > > That is exactly why those books disappeared. Macmillan aka Simon and
> > > Schuster who I sold to wanted to focus on big thick books on Java and
> C++
> > > and so on. I was not happy about that, it was one of those hidden
> agendas.
> > > That is why I want to get back in, to bring those great books like Image
> > Lab
> > > back. I have received a good deal of email from prospective contributors
> > and
> > > I plan to write to all of them shortly with more information
> > >
> > > Mitch
> > >
> > >
> > > "Harold Baize" <bai### [at] itsaucsfedu> wrote in message
> > > news:3c3c8802@news.povray.org...
> > > >
> > > > My introduction to 3D computer graphics was your
> > > > Image Lab book. It is interesting to me that you sold
> > > > Waite Group in 1996, maybe that is why all those
> > > > good computer graphics books disappeared ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Harold
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> > > > news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...
> > > > > Hi All:
> > > > >
> > > > > My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY
> TRACING
> > > > > CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> > > > >
> > > > > With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking
> about
> > > > > publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the
> > interest
> > > > > level is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please
> feel
> > > free
> > > > > to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel
> about
> > > > this
> > > > > idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on the
> > > Books
> > > > > menu item.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Waite
> > > > > mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

-- 
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From: Mitchell Waite
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 17 Jan 2002 22:23:16
Message: <3c479524@news.povray.org>
Yes animation is high on the list.

"Dearmad" <dea### [at] applesnakenet> wrote in message
news:3C478055.4978611C@applesnake.net...
>
> Mitchell Waite wrote:
> >
> > Well thank you for the kind words Maan. You pretty much sum up my ideas
this
> > time around for a POV Ray book. The POV Ray manual already provides a
great
> > reference, its examples that are in short supply IMHO. I am also
thinking
> > about using Moray as the tool for modeling since it allows one to focus
on
> > the scene rather than the statements. Do you have an opinion on that
idea?
>
> I do.  Don't overlook animation techniques.  I think getting into
> some of the scripting is good for a discussion of principles
> involved.  Or would that be another book?
>
> -peter
> >
> > Mitch
> >
> > "Maan M. Hamze" <mmh### [at] pleiadesnet> wrote in message
> > news:3c473e34$1@news.povray.org...
> > > Mitchell
> > > I have all the books you published on POV Ray (including the one on
Moray)
> > > and WinFract and Image Lab.
> > > You are the BEST!
> > > I am glad to see you are thinking about getting back into it.
> > > Maan
> > >
> > > "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> > > news:3c3cfc1c@news.povray.org...
> > > > Harold:
> > > >
> > > > That is exactly why those books disappeared. Macmillan aka Simon and
> > > > Schuster who I sold to wanted to focus on big thick books on Java
and
> > C++
> > > > and so on. I was not happy about that, it was one of those hidden
> > agendas.
> > > > That is why I want to get back in, to bring those great books like
Image
> > > Lab
> > > > back. I have received a good deal of email from prospective
contributors
> > > and
> > > > I plan to write to all of them shortly with more information
> > > >
> > > > Mitch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Harold Baize" <bai### [at] itsaucsfedu> wrote in message
> > > > news:3c3c8802@news.povray.org...
> > > > >
> > > > > My introduction to 3D computer graphics was your
> > > > > Image Lab book. It is interesting to me that you sold
> > > > > Waite Group in 1996, maybe that is why all those
> > > > > good computer graphics books disappeared ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mitchell Waite" <mit### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3c3a9a4b$1@news.povray.org...
> > > > > > Hi All:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My name is Mitchell Waite and I am the former publisher of RAY
> > TRACING
> > > > > > CREATIONS, the first (and only) POV Ray specific book.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With all the fantastic new improvements in POV Ray I am thinking
> > about
> > > > > > publishing a new title on POV Ray and I was wondering what the
> > > interest
> > > > > > level is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also I am looking for potential writers and contributors. Please
> > feel
> > > > free
> > > > > > to email me privately as well as let the group know how you feel
> > about
> > > > > this
> > > > > > idea.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can see the books I published at www.mitchwaite.com Click on
the
> > > > Books
> > > > > > menu item.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Waite
> > > > > > mit### [at] mitchwaitecom
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Current obsession: "Ballet pour ma fille."
> http://www.applesnake.net


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POV Ray Book
Date: 18 Jan 2002 05:12:56
Message: <3c47f528@news.povray.org>
"Mitchell Waite" wrote:
> I am also thinking about using Moray as the tool for
> modeling since it allows one to focus on the scene
> rather than the statements. Do you have an opinion on that idea?

It will exclude many users. As frequent quick surveys in this group have
shown, a very high percentage (far above 50% IIRC) never use modeling tools,
except maybe specific ones like HamaPatch. There are also many users who
primarily use Moray though. However, I think it would be better to make one
book for each of those two target group (moray/not moray) rather than mixing
them up, so as to avoid a lot of the content of the book being useless for
many users.

Rune
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