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From: JRG
Subject: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 29 Oct 2001 16:36:14
Message: <3bddcbce@news.povray.org>
I'm downloading it at the moment...

--
Jonathan.


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From: JRG
Subject: Huh?
Date: 29 Oct 2001 16:52:45
Message: <3bddcfad@news.povray.org>
Change 1220 on 2001/10/25 by thorsten@host27

  Some isosurface changes. Note that these changes are preliminary and
   not complete yet!


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 29 Oct 2001 19:11:52
Message: <3bddf048$1@news.povray.org>
Arg! The media-photon bug, the single bug I actually cared about being
fixed, is still there! This is driving me crazy! I can now save and load
media photons, but they still make my media look about twice as bright as it
should. Siiiiigh....

- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
[ http://www.slimeland.com/images/ ]

"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3bddcbce@news.povray.org...
> I'm downloading it at the moment...
>
> --
> Jonathan.
>
>
>


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: Huh?
Date: 29 Oct 2001 20:39:28
Message: <3bde04d0@news.povray.org>
> Change 1220 on 2001/10/25 by thorsten@host27
>
>   Some isosurface changes. Note that these changes are preliminary and
>    not complete yet!

This is what we like to call "planned obsolescence". ;)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 03:39:21
Message: <3bde6738@news.povray.org>
Slime <noo### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
: Arg! The media-photon bug, the single bug I actually cared about being
: fixed, is still there!

  Be patient. They are not gods, just humans. They need their time. :)

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Andrew
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 06:43:28
Message: <3bde9260$1@news.povray.org>
...They are not gods...

LIAR! :)


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 08:43:48
Message: <3bdeae94$1@news.povray.org>
Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm honestly very thankful for all the work these guys
do... I was exstatic (sp?) the day I first found POV-Ray, it's an excellent
program. It's just that I have this one scene which is going to be *amazing*
when I finish it, but it needs media photons for half the effect.

Does anyone know if this is in the list of known bugs, or should I bring it
up again in the beta test group?

- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
[ http://www.slimeland.com/images/ ]

"Andrew" <ast### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> ...They are not gods...
>
> LIAR! :)
>
>


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 10:27:07
Message: <3bdec6cb@news.povray.org>
In article <3bdeae94$1@news.povray.org> , "Slime" <noo### [at] hotmailcom> 
wrote:

> Does anyone know if this is in the list of known bugs, or should I bring it
> up again in the beta test group?

Didn't Nathan say he is looking into it in response to your report?

    Thorsten


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 10:38:45
Message: <3bdec985$1@news.povray.org>
> Didn't Nathan say he is looking into it in response to your report?

Heh, maybe he did... that was well before I set Outlook Express to stop
deleting old messages, though, so I don't have that anymore. I'll take your
word for it, and hope it's fixed in the next beta...

- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
[ http://www.slimeland.com/images/ ]


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From: Thierry B 
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 12:09:39
Message: <3BDEDED2.BDFEDFD0@chez.com>
Slime wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if this is in the list of known bugs, or should I bring it
> up again in the beta test group?
> 

	bug #42 -> no Unix version available :(


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From: Leroy Whetstone
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 13:14:57
Message: <3BDF0A4D.B1C1BAB1@joplin.com>
Is the cut off date :
 POV-Ray for Windows Public Beta 7 - October 30, 2001
still true?

I downloaded it last night before I read this. That IS today!

--
Have Fun!


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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 18:01:57
Message: <slrn9tu7ri.irm.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 2001-10-30 17:09, Thierry B. <oul### [at] chezcom> wrote:
> Slime wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if this is in the list of known bugs, or should I bring it
>> up again in the beta test group?
>> 
> 
> 	bug #42 -> no Unix version available :(

Right. Any hints on when it will be available? 

	hp

PS: I renew my offer to help getting a Linux (or Solaris or HP-UX) beta
version out of the door.


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|_|_) | Sysadmin WSR       | Science-Fiction TV-Serie ueber Schaben
| |   | hjp### [at] hjpat         | im Weltall?
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 30 Oct 2001 21:28:32
Message: <3BDF61D6.C73AB242@pacbell.net>
"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:

> PS: I renew my offer to help getting a Linux (or Solaris or HP-UX) beta
> version out of the door.

It is being working on it but I have heard no indication when it will
be ready for the public. It may have to wait for the official release.

-- 
Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 31 Oct 2001 01:27:11
Message: <3bdf99bf@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: It is being working on it but I have heard no indication when it will
: be ready for the public. It may have to wait for the official release.

  I have been compiling the up-to-date version for Solaris for several weeks
now (as I have access to the source code) and helped beta-testing this part
(ie. compiling the unix-version).
  However, I understand that making a whole and stable packet of a beta
distribution for Unix is not that simple and there are lots of other things
to do as well... (I think that specially documentation is a bit problematic,
although I'm sure that people would be happy to have just the binary even
without the documentation.)
  If there's enough interest in a Sparc Solaris binary, I could see what I
can do to provide one (although I suppose that a Linux binary would be more
requested...).

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 31 Oct 2001 06:01:30
Message: <slrn9tvhsb.50a.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 2001-10-31 06:27, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> : It is being working on it but I have heard no indication when it will
> : be ready for the public. It may have to wait for the official release.
> 
>   I have been compiling the up-to-date version for Solaris for several weeks
> now (as I have access to the source code) and helped beta-testing this part
> (ie. compiling the unix-version).

Yep. When beta 1 came out I offered help to port it to the few Unix
platforms I have access to and was answered that no help was needed as
it runs already on (some) Unixes.

>   However, I understand that making a whole and stable packet of a beta
> distribution for Unix is not that simple and there are lots of other things
> to do as well... (I think that specially documentation is a bit problematic,
> although I'm sure that people would be happy to have just the binary even
> without the documentation.)

What is the problem with the documentation? The essential parts should
be the same as for Windows and Mac and that's already available in HTML
on povray.org. What's probably missing is an installation guide and a
"what's different" document.

>   If there's enough interest in a Sparc Solaris binary, I could see what I
> can do to provide one (although I suppose that a Linux binary would be more
> requested...).

Since the fastest Solaris machine I have access to right now is a 143
MHz Ultra 1 with 96 MB RAM[1], yes, I would prefer Linux :-).

	hp

[1] 5 Years ago it was a great Povray machine ...


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|_|_) | Sysadmin WSR       | Science-Fiction TV-Serie ueber Schaben
| |   | hjp### [at] hjpat         | im Weltall?
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From: Steve
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 3 Nov 2001 17:55:22
Message: <slrn9u8sr8.b8k.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On 31 Oct 2001 01:27:11 -0500, Warp wrote:
>Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>: It is being working on it but I have heard no indication when it will
>: be ready for the public. It may have to wait for the official release.
>
>  I have been compiling the up-to-date version for Solaris for several weeks
>now (as I have access to the source code) and helped beta-testing this part
>(ie. compiling the unix-version).
>  However, I understand that making a whole and stable packet of a beta
>distribution for Unix is not that simple and there are lots of other things
>to do as well... (I think that specially documentation is a bit problematic,
>although I'm sure that people would be happy to have just the binary even
>without the documentation.)

Give me plain text every time:-)

>  If there's enough interest in a Sparc Solaris binary, I could see what I
>can do to provide one (although I suppose that a Linux binary would be more
>requested...).
>

I'd prefer source (Linux), but I suppose that's more habit than necessitie. 

--
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 4 Nov 2001 01:42:10
Message: <3be4e342@news.povray.org>
Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote:
: I'd prefer source (Linux), but I suppose that's more habit than necessitie. 

  I think that the policy is strict here: No source until final version.
  This for not making it too easy to overcome the expiration date by just
modifying the source.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Roz
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 4 Nov 2001 12:11:02
Message: <3BE576E3.3080204@netscape.net>
Warp wrote:

> Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote:
> : I'd prefer source (Linux), but I suppose that's more habit than necessitie. 
> 
>   I think that the policy is strict here: No source until final version.
>   This for not making it too easy to overcome the expiration date by just
> modifying the source.
> 
> 

Aha! I finally see the reason for not providing the source to the 3.5 
betas! Duh! That makes perfect sense. I'd ultimately like to compile it 
from source on my Linux box because I can optimize it for my CPU, etc. 
The result renders POV scene files much faster than the provided 
binaries (for Windows and Linux). But I'll gratefully accept Linux (i86) 
binaries for the betas in the mean time :)

-Roz


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 06:32:32
Message: <MPG.1650973124bc57c298969f@news.povray.org>
In article <3be4e342@news.povray.org>, war### [at] tagpovrayorg says...
> Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote:
> : I'd prefer source (Linux), but I suppose that's more habit than necessitie. 
> 
>   I think that the policy is strict here: No source until final version.
>   This for not making it too easy to overcome the expiration date by just
> modifying the source.
> 
> 
And what about setting the system clock back one month, starting Pov, 
and setting the clock right again?
-- 
Regards, 
Sander


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 07:33:19
Message: <3be6870f@news.povray.org>
Sander <san### [at] stolscom> wrote:
: And what about setting the system clock back one month, starting Pov, 
: and setting the clock right again?

  If you _really_ want to do that, then go ahead. ;)

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: scott tuttle
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 11:08:41
Message: <3be6b989@news.povray.org>
It's not like you have to pay for the upgrade you know!
This is what happens when people deal with microsoft too long.  :)

"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3be6870f@news.povray.org...
> Sander <san### [at] stolscom> wrote:
> : And what about setting the system clock back one month, starting Pov,
> : and setting the clock right again?
>
>   If you _really_ want to do that, then go ahead. ;)


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 11:45:32
Message: <3be6c22c@news.povray.org>
"scott tuttle" <sco### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3be6b989@news.povray.org...
> It's not like you have to pay for the upgrade you know!
> This is what happens when people deal with microsoft too long.  :)

    No, but everytime I do an upgrade, I have to spend time getting
everything back the way I like it. I accidentally lost my insert menu on the
first beta re-install.

    Not that I am complaining, I can get by with MegaPov most of the time
and I appreciate the work done on 3.5, but I can't pretend that frequent
upgrades are effortless either. If the upgrades were only patches for the
files that really needed to be changed, it would be a little nicer.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 12:04:43
Message: <3be6c6ab@news.povray.org>
Bill DeWitt <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote:
:     Not that I am complaining, I can get by with MegaPov most of the time
: and I appreciate the work done on 3.5, but I can't pretend that frequent
: upgrades are effortless either. If the upgrades were only patches for the
: files that really needed to be changed, it would be a little nicer.

  It's a beta version. By using it, you are just participating in the
beta testing. You should know that it evolves rapidly and new betas come
out every once and then. 

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: scott tuttle
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 12:59:04
Message: <3be6d368@news.povray.org>
I agree, it's irritating setting everything back up. Export/import
settings or just leave the ini files alone when it installs would be nice.

"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
news:3be6c22c@news.povray.org...
>
> "scott tuttle" <sco### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:3be6b989@news.povray.org...
> > It's not like you have to pay for the upgrade you know!
> > This is what happens when people deal with microsoft too long.  :)
>
>     No, but everytime I do an upgrade, I have to spend time getting
> everything back the way I like it. I accidentally lost my insert menu on
the
> first beta re-install.
>
>     Not that I am complaining, I can get by with MegaPov most of the time
> and I appreciate the work done on 3.5, but I can't pretend that frequent
> upgrades are effortless either. If the upgrades were only patches for the
> files that really needed to be changed, it would be a little nicer.
>
>


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 5 Nov 2001 19:59:12
Message: <3BE73562.4060308@videotron.ca>
Bill DeWitt wrote:

> "scott tuttle" <sco### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:3be6b989@news.povray.org...
> 
>>It's not like you have to pay for the upgrade you know!
>>This is what happens when people deal with microsoft too long.  :)
>>
> 
>     No, but everytime I do an upgrade, I have to spend time getting
> everything back the way I like it. I accidentally lost my insert menu on the
> first beta re-install.
> 
>     Not that I am complaining, I can get by with MegaPov most of the time
> and I appreciate the work done on 3.5, but I can't pretend that frequent
> upgrades are effortless either. If the upgrades were only patches for the
> files that really needed to be changed, it would be a little nicer.
> 


Exactly.  Providing an "upgrade" package as well as a full install would 
be very nice, indeed.

However, I understand that the POV-Team has better things to do that 
search for every modified file since the last package build, and that 
our having to re-modify various .ini files to our liking is probaly best 
at this point.

> 
> 


-- 
/*Francois Labreque*/#local a=x+y;#local b=x+a;#local c=a+b;#macro P(F//
/*    flabreque    */L)polygon{5,F,F+z,L+z,L,F pigment{rgb 9}}#end union
/*        @        */{P(0,a)P(a,b)P(b,c)P(2*a,2*b)P(2*b,b+c)P(b+c,<2,3>)
/*   videotron.ca  */}camera{location<6,1.25,-6>look_at a orthographic}


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From: Thierry B 
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 6 Nov 2001 09:59:49
Message: <3BE7FAE6.4D1D8CC6@chez.com>
Warp wrote:
> 
> Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote:
> : I'd prefer source (Linux), but I suppose that's more habit than necessitie.
> 
>   I think that the policy is strict here: No source until final version.
>   This for not making it too easy to overcome the expiration date by just
> modifying the source.
> 
	
	and if "final version" is wrong ? 

-- 
Thierry     exposant de trucs bizarres     http://la.buvette.org/exPOV/


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From: Thierry B 
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 6 Nov 2001 10:02:04
Message: <3BE7FB6C.A9363AD6@chez.com>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   It's a beta version. By using it, you are just participating in the
> beta testing. You should know that it evolves rapidly and new betas come
> out every once and then.
> 

	wrong. never seen a beta at this time. just bugged binaries for
	window$ or macinto$h platforms... :)


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 6 Nov 2001 10:04:40
Message: <slrn9ufv09.bte.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 16:02:04 +0100, Thierry B. wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> 
>>   It's a beta version. By using it, you are just participating in the
>> beta testing. You should know that it evolves rapidly and new betas come
>> out every once and then.
>> 
> 
> 	wrong. never seen a beta at this time. just bugged binaries for
> 	window$ or macinto$h platforms... :)

So you're not using it, so you're not participating in the beta.  The fact
that only a handful of people have a Unix version of POV doesn't make Warp's
statement wrong.

-- 
#macro R(P)z+_(P)_(P)_(P+1)_(P+1)+z#end#macro Q(C,T)bicubic_patch{type 1u_steps
6v_steps 6R(1)R(3)R(5)R(7)pigment{rgb z}}#end#macro _(Y)#local X=asc(substr(C,Y
,1))-65;<T+mod(X,4)div(X,4)9>-2#end#macro O(T)Q("ABEFUQWS",T)Q("WSXTLOJN",T)#
end O(0)O(3)Q("JNKLCGCD",0)light_source{x 1}// ron### [at] povrayorg


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Subject: Re: POV-Ray 3.5 beta 7 available
Date: 6 Nov 2001 10:15:10
Message: <levfut8fhr81k30rfvblt39dr0t4u6pjmk@4ax.com>
On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:59:50 +0100, "Thierry B." <oul### [at] chezcom> wrote:

>	and if "final version" is wrong ? 

Previous (current) version went to letter "g" after 3.1. It changed even after
final release. I'm sure team not allow us to work with wrong version too long.

ABX
--
#declare _=function(a,b,x){((a^2)+(b^2))^.5-x}#default {pigment{color rgb 1}}
union{plane{y,-3}plane{-x,-3}finish{reflection 1 ambient 0}}isosurface{ //ABX
function{_(x-2,y,1)|_((x+y)*.7,z,.1)|_((x+y+2)*.7,z,.1)|_(x/2+y*.8+1.5,z,.1)}
contained_by{box{<0,-3,-.1>,<3,0,.1>}}translate z*15finish{ambient 1}}//POV35


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