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"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlu couk> wrote in message
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> "Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
> news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
>
> <snip>
>
> Ooo! I'll have number 1...
>
> 2 is alright, the others look a little garish IMHO
I'd have # 1 also as long as that little hookish-edge that will catch on
my pocket is really a p47 type can-opener that I can use when civilization
collapses and all I have left is a solar powered laptop a and old version of
POV3.1 to use while I eat canned irradiated food.
Otherwise I would prefer # 2
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> I'd have # 1 also as long as that little hookish-edge that will catch
on
> my pocket is really a p47 type can-opener that I can use when civilization
> collapses and all I have left is a solar powered laptop a and old version
of
> POV3.1 to use while I eat canned irradiated food.
In that case, I hope the final, non-time-disabled 3.5 comes out soon. I'd
hate to be stuck with 3.1 for eternity with the knowledge of 3.5 in my head.
-tgq
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wow :-) I'm happy to see my "everyone-would-buy-a-mug" theory actually led
to something :-)
I would stay with #2 or #1. (#2 looks nicer, imho)
Will
"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> escreveu na mensagem
news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
> In a response to a discussion on this server a few weeks ago, about the
> desire to be able to purchase POV-Ray 'things' (I think it was a coffee
> mug), I have been investigating my options in this area.
>
> A mug (printed in full color) seems to be fairly expensive, because of
> the setup costs. I don't really want to do one in single color.
>
> So I decided to test the waters with something that is cheaper to make,
> and where the manufacturers don't mind doing a small run of a few hundred
> or so.
>
> I ended up deciding I'd like to have a good-quality metal keychain made.
> This fits the above criteria, plus it's rather practical since most folks
> have keys ;)
>
> We have some concept art up at
>
> http://www.povray.org/temp/keychains.html
>
> which shows a few designs that I and the pre-beta testers came up with.
> This list isn't definitive, but it's a start.
>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
>
> This isn't a competition to chose a design, but I do want to attempt to
> eliminate those designs that people like the least.
>
> Feel free to make your own designs if you can do it in the next few days
> (post them in the binaries.images group). I don't have a lot of time to
> spare because, if I go ahead with this but don't get the design finalised
> by the end of this month, the lead time would cause it to slip too close
> to Christmas for comfort.
>
> -- Chris
>
>
>
>
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
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> We have some concept art up at
>
> http://www.povray.org/temp/keychains.html
>
> which shows a few designs that I and the pre-beta testers came up with.
> This list isn't definitive, but it's a start.
>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
Good idea.
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
One surely. Maybe two. Probably not more.
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
I like #2 most. But I'd like to see the others with no paint, I might change
my mind (guess #5 would be good in pure metal). YKYHBRTLW is excellent. I
don't know about brass though... Imho Pov need's something techno like steel
or aluminum.
An old idea : a rotatable key-chain with "Persistence" on one side and "of
Vision" on the other side (or "P r i t n e o i i n" & " e s s e c f V s
o "). (=POV in action.)
> This isn't a competition to chose a design, but I do want to attempt to
> eliminate those designs that people like the least.
???
Povingly,
Philippe
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Chris Cason escribió:
> I ended up deciding I'd like to have a good-quality metal keychain made.
> This fits the above criteria, plus it's rather practical since most folks
> have keys ;)
My vote for #2. Seems fine and compact (I hate BIG keychains).
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/
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How about just a chrome sphere? ;)
-tgq
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> escreveu na mensagem
news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
> <SNIP!>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
No, it doesn't, IMHO.
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
Yes, definitely.
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
#1, and probably #2. Either than those, the simple POV 3D logo (provided you
could find an elegant solution to attach the sphere to the rest) would seem
like a better idea to me. After all, POVing, for me, is the closest I can
get to having concrete objects that otherwise would not exist. What better
way to solve this than creating a real object born out of (and actually to
symbolize) POV? Just a thought, and one that didn't consider logistics,
feasibility or costs...
Ruy
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2 does it for me.
How about a mouse mat?
--
www.mp3.com/FeedingTheCats
http://www.btinternet.com/~manhog/
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#2 is my favourite too.
I would order two of them.
Norbert
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Question to everyone:
What do you think should be on the back side of those keychains where no
back side is shown?
We're interested in suggestions. Also feel free to send design sketches to
povray.binaries.images if you like.
Rune
--
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Rune's World: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated June 26)
POV-Ray Users: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayusers/
POV-Ray Webring: http://webring.povray.co.uk
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> I like #2 most. But I'd like to see the others with no paint, I might change
> my mind (guess #5 would be good in pure metal). YKYHBRTLW is excellent. I
> don't know about brass though... Imho Pov need's something techno like steel
> or aluminum.
The finish will be similar in appearance to chrome. You never see the brass (it's
inside the plating).
-- Chris
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"Alan Holding" <man### [at] btopenworldcom> wrote in message
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> How about a mouse mat?
Same problem with setup costs.
-- Chris
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Trevor Quayle escribió:
>
> How about just a chrome sphere? ;)
Yes, with a checkered board attached below... :)
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/
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Personally, I probably wouldn't buy anything. But since you're so concerned
about the setup costs, you may be interested in http://www.cafepress.com/ -
you can make Tshirts, mugs, and mouse pads with designs on them and sell
them. Doc Ozone (www.ozones.com) tried this out a couple months ago
(www.ozones.com/store) and he was very pleased with the results, he said the
printing was high quality and all.
Just thought I'd let you know about that.
- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
[ http://www.slimeland.com/images/ ]
"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
> In a response to a discussion on this server a few weeks ago, about the
> desire to be able to purchase POV-Ray 'things' (I think it was a coffee
> mug), I have been investigating my options in this area.
>
> A mug (printed in full color) seems to be fairly expensive, because of
> the setup costs. I don't really want to do one in single color.
>
> So I decided to test the waters with something that is cheaper to make,
> and where the manufacturers don't mind doing a small run of a few hundred
> or so.
>
> I ended up deciding I'd like to have a good-quality metal keychain made.
> This fits the above criteria, plus it's rather practical since most folks
> have keys ;)
>
> We have some concept art up at
>
> http://www.povray.org/temp/keychains.html
>
> which shows a few designs that I and the pre-beta testers came up with.
> This list isn't definitive, but it's a start.
>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
>
> This isn't a competition to chose a design, but I do want to attempt to
> eliminate those designs that people like the least.
>
> Feel free to make your own designs if you can do it in the next few days
> (post them in the binaries.images group). I don't have a lot of time to
> spare because, if I go ahead with this but don't get the design finalised
> by the end of this month, the lead time would cause it to slip too close
> to Christmas for comfort.
>
> -- Chris
>
>
>
>
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Great Idea! I would definitely buy one, provided the price is
reasonable. I like the coloring of #1, but not the shape. #2 is also
very nice.
~Kevin Wampler~
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I like the last one!
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com
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> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
It's a great idea!
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
I would purchase at least two.
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
#2 is my favorite. I like the idea of having the YKYBRTLW. . . on the back of it
as well.
^"^
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> which shows a few designs that I and the pre-beta testers came up with.
> This list isn't definitive, but it's a start.
>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
2 the most, but it's a bit too reminiscent of US dog-tags for my tastes.
1 is just plain odd.
> This isn't a competition to chose a design, but I do want to attempt to
> eliminate those designs that people like the least.
Well, I'm not too keen on the long thin ones as they seem a tad too big,
and my keyring is plenty big enough as it is...
> Feel free to make your own designs if you can do it in the next few days
> (post them in the binaries.images group). I don't have a lot of time to
> spare because, if I go ahead with this but don't get the design finalised
> by the end of this month, the lead time would cause it to slip too close
> to Christmas for comfort.
I've posted one to p.b.i,
Bye for now,
Jamie.
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> Well, I'm not too keen on the long thin ones as they seem a tad too big,
The expected size of those ones would be about 7cm (roughly 2.5 inches).
-- Chris
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Chris Cason wrote:
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
It does but some of us might purchase it anyway out of loyalty and pity...
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:22:01 -0400, Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> Chris Cason wrote:
>
>> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
>
> It does but some of us might purchase it anyway out of loyalty and pity...
>
Elaborate, please. Why does it suck? What do you mean by pity?
--
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v_steps 6R(1)R(3)R(5)R(7)translate 9*z-2pigment{rgb z}}#end#macro _(Y)#local X=
asc(substr(C,Y,1))-65;<mod(X,4)div(X,4)>#end#local O=union{Q("ABEFUQWS")Q(// RON
"WSXTLOJN")}Q("JNKLCGCD")union{O}union{O translate 3*x}light_source{x 1}//PARKER
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This has probably all ready been mentioned, but what about
http://www.cafepress.com
?
- Kevin
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"We can lick gravity, but sometimes the
paperwork is overwhelming."
- Wernher Von Braun, rocketry pioneer
"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Alan Holding" <man### [at] btopenworldcom> wrote in message
news:3bd6fd0d@news.povray.org...
> > How about a mouse mat?
>
> Same problem with setup costs.
>
> -- Chris
>
>
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Good idea.
I'll take number 2 or an unpainted number 5 (too garish w/ paint!). At
least one, probably several.
Chris Cason wrote:
<snip>
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
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> > I like #2 most. But I'd like to see the others with no paint, I might
change
> > my mind (guess #5 would be good in pure metal). YKYHBRTLW is excellent.
I
> > don't know about brass though... Imho Pov need's something techno like
steel
> > or aluminum.
>
> The finish will be similar in appearance to chrome. You never see the
brass (it's
> inside the plating).
>
> -- Chris
Drooool ! ;-)
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
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> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
No. I think It's a good idea.
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
Yes.
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
Number 2 and then 1.
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"T.Paul Althauser" <pau### [at] dnaicom> wrote in message
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> I'll take number 2 or an unpainted number 5 (too garish w/ paint!). At
> least one, probably several.
I've put up a version of this without paint for folks to see. Same URL.
-- Chris
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Chris Cason wrote:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
I rather like it.
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
One very probably, perhaps two depending on price
and shipping costs.
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
Keep it simple, please. I like the second.
But I think a rather simple circle with the logo would to it.
No colors please, too easily damaged.
The size you mentioned (around 7 cm) is a bit too
big for me (but I'll probably buy anyway).
I think the logo in a simple 4 cm circle is right
for my usage.
--
Adrien Beau adr### [at] freefr http://adrien.beau.free.fr/
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:54:28 +1000, Chris Cason wrote:
[...]
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
I think it's a good idea.
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
It depends on the final price. Given the current $AUS - $US exchange
rate, (ie, totally abysmal!) I may not be able to justify or afford one.
(Right now, $US20 ~= $AUS40)
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
Currently #2 and #6 (the words with no colours)
> -- Chris
Steve
--
Stephen Oxley, Shared Systems Section,
Room G44, Building 28, Clayton Campus
Monash University, Victoria, Australia, 3800
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in article 3bd6e439@news.povray.org, Chris Cason at
newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org wrote on 10/24/01 10:54 AM:
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
I like chains 1 and 2 (2 slightly more than 1)...
--
dan
http://hometown.aol.com/goofygrafx
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I just wanted to express my opinion after seeing that #2 has so far been the
majority favorite. Like I said at the pre-beta group, that design is placed
onto a dogtag shape which seems too common to me. Hopefully there will be
more to judge from soon.
Chris's design might seem too large, but I doubt IRL it would be. Anything
2 inches, or about 5 cm, in the long dimension should be ergonomic enough.
Maybe 3.5 cm round if circular in shape. And I'd like more to be there than
just the logo symbol. Fabien Mosen's design is too minimalist IMHO, were it
not for the script backdrop. Not that I have say alone but what we need is
lots of opinions, suggestions, designs to ferret out the right one for
general POVers. Then at least we know we wouldn't be missing a great idea.
Bob H.
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"Chris Cason" said :
> "Alan Holding" <man### [at] btopenworldcom> wrote in message
news:3bd6fd0d@news.povray.org...
> > How about a mouse mat?
>
> Same problem with setup costs.
..and mousepads will become less and less popular, with the new
optical mices. I've just got one myself, and am glad to get
rid of these dust/dirt-collecting pads.
Fabien.
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"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote in message
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> I like the last one!
Weirdo. No one agrees with you. You are wrong. ;)
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fabien wrote:
>
> ..and mousepads will become less and less popular, with the new
> optical mices. I've just got one myself, and am glad to get
> rid of these dust/dirt-collecting pads.
Having just bought one, I remind you that it is not because
you abandoned legacy mouses that the world did the same. Or
will do tomorrow.
--
Adrien Beau adr### [at] freefr http://adrien.beau.free.fr/
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Alan Holding" <man### [at] btopenworldcom> wrote in message
news:3bd6fd0d@news.povray.org...
> > How about a mouse mat?
>
> Same problem with setup costs.
>
There's a shop just up the road from us that does full-colour t-shirts, mugs and
mouse-pads @ about R40 ~ $5. They did our mouse-pads and it looks great. It's
done with the laser heat transfer method - laser copy on transfer paper
transferred onto mouse-pad via a heat-press. I'm sure you get that in the US, UK
etc. as well...?
- Nekar
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:21:44 +1000, Chris Cason wrote...
> > Well, I'm not too keen on the long thin ones as they seem a tad too big,
>
> The expected size of those ones would be about 7cm (roughly 2.5 inches).
Nah, definitely too large for my keyring then :)
Oh, and BTW, the dimensions I was thinking for the image I posted in p..i
was about 1-1 1/4" long.
Bye for now,
Jamie.
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
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>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
Nope.
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
Depends on price. $20 = R200 ZAR which is a little much for a keyring.
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
>
No 2
Gail
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Ron Parker wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:22:01 -0400, Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> > Chris Cason wrote:
> >> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
> > It does but some of us might purchase it anyway out of loyalty and pity...
>
> Elaborate, please. Why does it suck? What do you mean by pity?
By loyalty, I meant many of us would do anything to help povray financially.
By pity, I was restating the idea I thought it was a bit cheezy, but again we'd do
anything to support povray financially.
The property of "suckiness" I guess is a subjective one in the eye of the beholder,
but for me a keychain stirs up notions of
i) corporate giveaways to employees in years when raises sucked;
ii) NY City tourist traps.
I'd be more interested in a T-shirt designed by Rune or Mick or Anto OR a bulk
T-shirt deal with some Australian shop where everyone who gives povray US$35 gets
their own favorite design on a shirt.
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
[snip]
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
Sounds OK to me.
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this
Mine is around 30yrs old but I might be persuaded its time for a new
one.
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
Most wanted order: 2,4,3,5,6 and 1 (Yuk! Those pokey bits on 1).
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Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uarizonaedu> wrote:
: I like the coloring of #1, but not the shape.
I think that the shape resembles the number 10. Did you notice that?
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Not in the first picture, but now that there's a second picture up I can
definitely see it. I guess that makes more sense then, I now like it a
bit more.
~Kevin Wampler~
Warp wrote:
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> Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uarizonaedu> wrote:
> : I like the coloring of #1, but not the shape.
>
> I think that the shape resembles the number 10. Did you notice that?
>
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:54:28 +1000, Chris Cason wrote:
>I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
No, I like the idea.
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
Yes
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
5, 8 and 9 in no particular order.
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
Hi Chris, a great idea and I'd go with #9. But a pointer if I may?
From your link:
"We are led to believe that a plated keychain of this sort with
enamelled lettering will stand up to at least five years of daily use
without any significant problems, and could last much longer with some wear
and tear."
The plated brass I'm not worried about, but the enamel, yes. Kilned
enamel is usually applied at a thickness of around .5mm, and unless it's
'inset' with a sort of 'guard' around it, (as per Jamies' image, #9), then
it will chip and crack, and that can be immediate, (unlucky), 'or' in 5
years time, (lucky), having said that, even if it has a guard and 'is' sunk
low, a carefully aimed backdoor key that hits it will possibly damage it
anyway.
Also, the most affordable colour will be green, I'm not sure why as yet,
but that's what my enamellers tell me.
Hope this is of some help to you and everyone else.
~Steve~
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"25ct" <25c### [at] lineonenet> wrote in message news:3bd89619@news.povray.org...
>
> "Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
> news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
>
>
> Hi Chris, a great idea and I'd go with #9. But a pointer if I may?
>
> From your link:
>
> "We are led to believe that a plated keychain of this sort with
> enamelled lettering will stand up to at least five years of daily use
> without any significant problems, and could last much longer with some wear
> and tear."
>
>
> The plated brass I'm not worried about, but the enamel, yes. Kilned
> enamel is usually applied at a thickness of around .5mm, and unless it's
> 'inset' with a sort of 'guard' around it, (as per Jamies' image, #9), then
> it will chip and crack, and that can be immediate, (unlucky), 'or' in 5
> years time, (lucky), having said that, even if it has a guard and 'is' sunk
> low, a carefully aimed backdoor key that hits it will possibly damage it
> anyway.
>
> Also, the most affordable colour will be green, I'm not sure why as yet,
> but that's what my enamellers tell me.
>
Green sucks. IMHO.
- Nekar
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I think I like number 8 the most.
The shape is nicely smooth without being too symmetric. Looks nice to
handle. The other keychains are either too symmetric or too complex (with
sharpnesses).
Also the image is nice (although some other color schemes could be tried to
see how it looks like).
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
> news:3bd6e862$1@news.povray.org...
>
>>"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
>>news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
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>><snip>
>>
>>Ooo! I'll have number 1...
>>
>>2 is alright, the others look a little garish IMHO
>>
>
> I'd have # 1 also as long as that little hookish-edge that will catch on
> my pocket is really a p47 type can-opener that I can use when civilization
> collapses and all I have left is a solar powered laptop a and old version of
> POV3.1 to use while I eat canned irradiated food.
I'd like to see integrated bottle opener instead, as I've always had
fear of death by dehydration :-)
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(I hope this message is in plain text and not html
I just started using netscape 6.1 and I'm not sure
I set it up right)
> A mug (printed in full color) seems to be fairly expensive, because of
> the setup costs. I don't really want to do one in single color.
>
You might want to check out this site:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/index.aspx
Basically you send them the art, choose which products
you want to associate the art with and they sell the
product for you. There's no keychains but there are
T-shirts, mugs, baseball caps and mouse pads. Plus
my favorite the limited edition stein. All the products
have a base price and then you can set a price on top
of that which is your profit.
My friend uses this company for his rock band. I haven't
heard any complaints yet so I guess they can't be all
bad but I don't know for sure.
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BTW they also have a referal program which can earn you
money too and I just noticed when I clicked the join
link that it gives credit to my friend's band. I just
want you to know that this was *not* my intention. I
grabbed the link from my friend's website. It must use
a cookie or something to track referals.
Oh, I almost forgot...I like keychain #2
(but I'm partial to the stein :) )
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hi chris,
i vote that the whole idea sucks. hahaha. ok, i'm not trying to be
a butt here. really! but i would much rather have a T-SHIRT. we
got some made for a dock party and we had a minimum order of
11 and got em for $12US apiece. lotsa juicy colors too!
the reason i'm a t-shirt guy is cuz i want people to see it and ask
questions about it. i'm PROUD to be a pov-rayer, even if i am a
rank disgusting ignorant newbie. and i'm a sucker for cool t-shirts
that nobody else around me has, and since i think i'm the only
person in indiana that plays with pov, i think i'd stand out in a pov
T. a key chain is just TOO SUBTLE!!!
miker
"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:3bd6e439@news.povray.org...
> In a response to a discussion on this server a few weeks ago, about the
> desire to be able to purchase POV-Ray 'things' (I think it was a coffee
> mug), I have been investigating my options in this area.
>
> A mug (printed in full color) seems to be fairly expensive, because of
> the setup costs. I don't really want to do one in single color.
>
> So I decided to test the waters with something that is cheaper to make,
> and where the manufacturers don't mind doing a small run of a few hundred
> or so.
>
> I ended up deciding I'd like to have a good-quality metal keychain made.
> This fits the above criteria, plus it's rather practical since most folks
> have keys ;)
>
> We have some concept art up at
>
> http://www.povray.org/temp/keychains.html
>
> which shows a few designs that I and the pre-beta testers came up with.
> This list isn't definitive, but it's a start.
>
> I'd like to hear from users about the following:
>
> 1) Whether the idea as a whole sucks or not;
>
> 2) If not, then if you would purchase one (cost unknown at this stage,
> but I wouldn't expect that it would be more than US$20, and probably
> less).
>
> 3) Which of the abovementioned designs attract you the most/least.
>
> This isn't a competition to chose a design, but I do want to attempt to
> eliminate those designs that people like the least.
>
> Feel free to make your own designs if you can do it in the next few days
> (post them in the binaries.images group). I don't have a lot of time to
> spare because, if I go ahead with this but don't get the design finalised
> by the end of this month, the lead time would cause it to slip too close
> to Christmas for comfort.
>
> -- Chris
>
>
>
>
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MR wrote:
>
> hi chris,
>
> i vote that the whole idea sucks. hahaha. ok, i'm not trying to be
> a butt here. really! but i would much rather have a T-SHIRT. we
> got some made for a dock party and we had a minimum order of
> 11 and got em for $12US apiece. lotsa juicy colors too!
I've got a couple of POV-Ray T-Shirts. I have a Cannon bubble jet
printer, T-Shirt transfer paper and a hot iron. Takes about 15 min
to create my own from start to finish. I could not do the the same
for a custom keychain. Besides, T-Shirts are not durable goods in
my opinion and if I spend money on a collectors item I want it
durable.
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: Besides, T-Shirts are not durable goods in
: my opinion and if I spend money on a collectors item I want it
: durable.
And you can't use the same shirt all the time, but you certainly can use
the same keyring all the time...
(Well, you can use the same shirt all the time, but then I wouldn't want
to meet you in person... ;) )
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