hello,

could somebody please give me a bit of insight into editting meshes in
amapi?  i've looked at the vertex selection tool, the filet tool, the
ungroup feature, the delete face feature, and i can't get the job done.
i've got one
large mesh that i need to break up into sections.  i could accomplish this
by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
version.

i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.

thank you, miker

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> i could accomplish this
> by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
> original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
> version.

I think it's possible do simple CSG feature with Amapi. The tool is the
"cut" one (a sphere with a smaller one cut from it).
Create a small grid, place it where it should cut the mesh, and then use the
cut tool. Select the cutting object (the grid), then the mesh and then
choose one of the various options available with the + and - keys.
I've done this before but I'm not very familiar with Amapi's CSG. There may
be a better way.

> i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
> c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.

Please ship it back to Tampa, Florida, which is Mr Giwer's residence. You
don't know what sort of deadly toxins a issiehugger could be containing.

G.

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Did you chek the Amapi 4.15 HTML manual?
You can get it here: ftp://ftp.tgs.com/Amapi/Doc/

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Jonathan.

"MR" <a### [at] bnet> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3bc2efae$1@news.povray.org...
> hello,
>
> could somebody please give me a bit of insight into editting meshes in
> amapi?  i've looked at the vertex selection tool, the filet tool, the
> ungroup feature, the delete face feature, and i can't get the job done.
> i've got one
> large mesh that i need to break up into sections.  i could accomplish this
> by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
> original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
> version.
>
> i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
> c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.
>
> thank you, miker
>
>
>

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thanks gilles,

i tried it at lunch.  you draw a sphere, like you said, position
it over the csg you want deleted, select the punch tool, and
then the object you are performing the operation on, and
then the + and - keys to look at variations.  unless i'm doing
something wrong (god forbid!  ;-), it doesn't want to perform
a punch operation on my mesh.  when i click on the mesh to
perform the operation, amapi closes instantly.  its repeatable
too.  did it twice in a row.

but i'll bang on it some more.  there's an easy way to do this...
there has to be!  editting a mesh is an elementary operation.

one of the things i noticed almost immediately about the 4.15
amapi freebie is that the online docs are limited to a few
elementary html-formatted tutorials.  there's no index or search.
if they are using this freebie to promote their product, the low
rent online help is not a good advertisement.

there's no newsgroup with the keyword "amapi" in it either.

i think i need to run thru the tutorials first before i whine a whole
lot more.  i'm outa breath anyway.    ;-)

thanks again, miker

"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message
news:3bc30068@news.povray.org...

> > i could accomplish this
> > by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
> > original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
> > version.
>
> I think it's possible do simple CSG feature with Amapi. The tool is the
> "cut" one (a sphere with a smaller one cut from it).
> Create a small grid, place it where it should cut the mesh, and then use
the
> cut tool. Select the cutting object (the grid), then the mesh and then
> choose one of the various options available with the + and - keys.
> I've done this before but I'm not very familiar with Amapi's CSG. There
may
> be a better way.
>
> > i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
> > c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.
>
> Please ship it back to Tampa, Florida, which is Mr Giwer's residence. You
> don't know what sort of deadly toxins a issiehugger could be containing.
>
> G.
>
> --
>
> **********************
> http://www.oyonale.com
> **********************
> Graphic experiments
> Pov-ray gallery
>
>
>

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oh yeah!  i mean, OH YEAH!!!!  thanks jonathan.  i downloaded
it and its huge and it looks very thorough.  i don't think i was
going anywhere with the wimpy tutorial html that i was using.

thanks again, miker


"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3bc32e44@news.povray.org...
> Did you chek the Amapi 4.15 HTML manual?
> You can get it here: ftp://ftp.tgs.com/Amapi/Doc/
>
> --
> Jonathan.
>
> "MR" <a### [at] bnet> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3bc2efae$1@news.povray.org...
> > hello,
> >
> > could somebody please give me a bit of insight into editting meshes in
> > amapi?  i've looked at the vertex selection tool, the filet tool, the
> > ungroup feature, the delete face feature, and i can't get the job done.
> > i've got one
> > large mesh that i need to break up into sections.  i could accomplish
this
> > by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
> > original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
> > version.
> >
> > i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
> > c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.
> >
> > thank you, miker
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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What in the world is an "issiehugger"? 80

"MR" <a### [at] bnet> wrote in message news:3bc2efae$1@news.povray.org...
> hello,
>
> could somebody please give me a bit of insight into editting meshes in
> amapi?  i've looked at the vertex selection tool, the filet tool, the
> ungroup feature, the delete face feature, and i can't get the job done.
> i've got one
> large mesh that i need to break up into sections.  i could accomplish this
> by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
> original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
> version.
>
> i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
> c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.
>
> thank you, miker
>
>
>

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On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:31:45 -0400, Mahalis wrote:
>What in the world is an "issiehugger"? 80

Please don't ask.  And for God's sake, anyone here who's also in CGRR,
don't drag that discussion (or lack thereof) here.  It attracts unpleasant
people.  Followups set.

-- 
#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbf 1}hollow interior{media{emission 3-T}}}#end 
Z(-x-x.2x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90normal{bumps.02scale.05}}

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MR wrote in message <3bc32fa8$1@news.povray.org>...
>thanks gilles,
>
>i tried it at lunch.  you draw a sphere, like you said, position
>it over the csg you want deleted, select the punch tool, and
>then the object you are performing the operation on, and
>then the + and - keys to look at variations.  unless i'm doing
>something wrong (god forbid!  ;-), it doesn't want to perform
>a punch operation on my mesh.  when i click on the mesh to
>perform the operation, amapi closes instantly.  its repeatable
>too.  did it twice in a row.
>
>but i'll bang on it some more.  there's an easy way to do this...
>there has to be!  editting a mesh is an elementary operation.

Keep trying. IIRC Amapi, though  wonderful, is a bit buggy. The CSG is
supposedly improved in version 5 and 6. Amapi is now in the Eovia site
(www.Eovia.com , I think)
>

>there's no newsgroup with the keyword "amapi" in it either.

Try in www.yahoogroups.com

Regards,
-Anoop

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well i managed to get some parts of the mesh deleted late
yesterday evening.  of course, you know how that goes...
it might not work again today.  i'm gonna see if i can repeat
the process at lunchtime.  i won't swear to it, but i think the
key was using that lil lightning tool, which is a delete faces
tool, along with the red-lined selection tool.  i'm sorta thinking
the punch tool is for csg and the other is for meshes.

thanks to everyone for helping.

and mahalis:  i don't have any idea what an issiehugger is.  i
was just making a joke in reference to some humorous threads
going on at the comp.graphics.rendering.raytracing group.  and
thats using a very loose definition of "humorous".   ;-)

miker


"MR" <a### [at] bnet> wrote in message news:3bc2efae$1@news.povray.org...
> hello,
>
> could somebody please give me a bit of insight into editting meshes in
> amapi?  i've looked at the vertex selection tool, the filet tool, the
> ungroup feature, the delete face feature, and i can't get the job done.
> i've got one
> large mesh that i need to break up into sections.  i could accomplish this
> by progressively deleting large sections of the mesh in copies of the
> original, but i don't know how to do it.  i'm using the 4.15 freebie
> version.
>
> i've got one medium-sized issiehugger that matt giwer gave me in the
> c.g.r.r. group that i'm willing to trade for this information.
>
> thank you, miker
>
>
>

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thanks anoop,

i'm making headway... last night i was managing to use the
lil lightning (delete faces) tool and the vertex selection to surround
an area and it was deleting.  but i didn't repeat the process from
scratch and this morning i couldn't get it to work.  it makes me
smile, cuz i know that this is a basic operation and i'm being
stupid about it.  i know that one of my mistakes is just flat out
refusing to learn too much about the application...  all i want to
do is slice up the mesh, export to pov, and take the money and
run.  this evening i'm gonna look in the manual under the punch
and delete faces modelling tools and see if that sheds any light.
and i might have to break down and do a few of the basic tutorials.

this is kinda comic here... i'm trying to learn pov, so what happens?
first, i run thru the pov online docs til about page 26 and lo and
behold, it shuttles me off to moray, and cuz pov's tutorial on it was
for a WAY outdated dos version, i'm now plowing my way thru the
moray tutorials... and i want this skeleton model BAD, so what
else am i doing... stumbling around with amapi.  and oh yeah...
lets not forget 3DWin, too.    LOL.

it appears that pov requires you to sleep around with a lotta different
software.   i must be promiscuous...  i kinda like it.  ;-)

i'll check out the yahoo groups.  thanks for the tip.

miker





"anoop" <ano### [at] flashmailcom> wrote in message
news:3bc42027@news.povray.org...
>
> MR wrote in message <3bc32fa8$1@news.povray.org>...
> >thanks gilles,
> >
> >i tried it at lunch.  you draw a sphere, like you said, position
> >it over the csg you want deleted, select the punch tool, and
> >then the object you are performing the operation on, and
> >then the + and - keys to look at variations.  unless i'm doing
> >something wrong (god forbid!  ;-), it doesn't want to perform
> >a punch operation on my mesh.  when i click on the mesh to
> >perform the operation, amapi closes instantly.  its repeatable
> >too.  did it twice in a row.
> >
> >but i'll bang on it some more.  there's an easy way to do this...
> >there has to be!  editting a mesh is an elementary operation.
>
> Keep trying. IIRC Amapi, though  wonderful, is a bit buggy. The CSG is
> supposedly improved in version 5 and 6. Amapi is now in the Eovia site
> (www.Eovia.com , I think)
> >
>
> >there's no newsgroup with the keyword "amapi" in it either.
>
> Try in www.yahoogroups.com
>
> Regards,
> -Anoop
>
>

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