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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 17:29:08
Message: <3b8d5ea4@news.povray.org>
Well, not quite in here, try the special 21 page report on
http://Povray.co.uk

Many thanks to TonyB

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 18:00:57
Message: <3b8d6619@news.povray.org>
You mention the 'pattern' feature to create an image map from a pigment.
However, this is old information. They keyword and functionality has been
changed to something more logical.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 18:38:37
Message: <3b8d6eed@news.povray.org>
"Warp" wrote:
>   You mention the 'pattern' feature to create an image map
> from a pigment. However, this is old information. They
> keyword and functionality has been changed to something more
> logical.

Also, I'm not completely sure of the fate of the spline feature - maybe it
was not so bad after all that it wasn't included in the article!

Rune
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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 20:34:34
Message: <3b8d8a1a@news.povray.org>
>   You mention the 'pattern' feature to create an image map from a pigment.
> However, this is old information. They keyword and functionality has been
> changed to something more logical.

The article was written before this change. There was little I could do. I
just sent it to Rick and he worked on putting it up. We might put up a
little update later.


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 20:35:07
Message: <3b8d8a3b@news.povray.org>
> Also, I'm not completely sure of the fate of the spline feature - maybe it
> was not so bad after all that it wasn't included in the article!

I really didn't have much time to cover that anyway. :\

You like the rest of it though?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 21:35:57
Message: <3b8d987d@news.povray.org>
For those who are interested:

  The 'pattern' feature, which was used in MegaPov for creating a bitmap
from a pigment has been changed in both name and functionality.
  Firstly, the name is just plain silly: It has nothing to do with a pattern.
This will be changed to something more logical.
  Secondly, instead of making a bitmap from a pigment, it will make it from
a function. As a function can be a pigment function, this means that it will
have the same functionality as in MegaPov (with just a slight syntax change).
However, it adds a lot of functionality to it because you can also use a
pattern function or a regular function (which will create b/w bitmaps, which
are just perfect to create a heightfield).
  Thirdly, (IIRC) you can #declare this kind of bitmap "function" and use it
as a regular function. Which means that you can evaluate it, call it inside
other functions and so on.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 22:38:46
Message: <3b8da736@news.povray.org>
Hi Tony, great job on that preview article.  I haven't seen much of it yet,
very very slow going connection to there so I retired for now.

Bob H.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 29 Aug 2001 23:06:02
Message: <3B8DAE54.481F9D4F@pacbell.net>
"Bob H." wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony, great job on that preview article.  I haven't seen much of it yet,
> very very slow going connection to there so I retired for now.

I always have trouble reaching .co.uk sites. Even with a T1 connection
at work the site loads slowly. I don't even bother trying it at home
with a dial-up connection.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 30 Aug 2001 01:04:09
Message: <3b8dc949@news.povray.org>
> Hi Tony, great job on that preview article.

Thank you! :)

> I haven't seen much of it yet,
> very very slow going connection to there so I retired for now.

Works fine for me... :(


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 30 Aug 2001 04:39:42
Message: <3b8dfbce@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> > Also, I'm not completely sure of the fate of the spline
> > feature - maybe it was not so bad after all that it wasn't
> > included in the article!
>
> I really didn't have much time to cover that anyway. :\

And as I said, that just might be a good thing...

> You like the rest of it though?

Yes, it was very nice! :)

(But maybe you could have mentioned the new official logo, which is now
plastered all over the package? Well, it's quite apparent from some of the
screenshots anyway...)

BTW, could you send me your modified version of the mountain image (with the
slope pattern)?

Rune
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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 30 Aug 2001 11:46:04
Message: <3b8e5fbc@news.povray.org>
> And as I said, that just might be a good thing...

Yep.

> Yes, it was very nice! :)

Cool. :)

> (But maybe you could have mentioned the new official logo, which is now
> plastered all over the package? Well, it's quite apparent from some of the
> screenshots anyway...)

Well, I thought it was common knowledge. It's been the official logo for
quite some time now...

> BTW, could you send me your modified version of the mountain image (with
the
> slope pattern)?

On its way...


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 31 Aug 2001 20:49:39
Message: <slrn9p05li.63d.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:38:19 -0500, Tony[B] wrote:
>>   You mention the 'pattern' feature to create an image map from a pigment.
>> However, this is old information. They keyword and functionality has been
>> changed to something more logical.
>
>The article was written before this change. There was little I could do. I
>just sent it to Rick and he worked on putting it up. We might put up a
>little update later.

When you do the recap of the POV-Ray 3.5 status page, you say that it was 
written and released on 1 September 2001, but I seem to remember it being
posted last year, also that date hasn't happened yet:-)

Nice review (though I havn't read it all yet), and thanks for the updated 
feature list it was something I found particularly interesting. 

How about a version that's all on one page so that we can d/l the whole 
review at once, here in Europe we pay for our time online. 

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 31 Aug 2001 21:54:38
Message: <3B9040A9.254B9710@pacbell.net>
Steve wrote:

> When you do the recap of the POV-Ray 3.5 status page, you say that it was
> written and released on 1 September 2001, but I seem to remember it being
> posted last year, also that date hasn't happened yet:-)

It is 99.951% ready for beta release. Just working on a few last minute
changes to the scene files and docs because of a last minute change to
the feature list. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick....

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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 00:58:34
Message: <3b906afa@news.povray.org>
> When you do the recap of the POV-Ray 3.5 status page, you say that it was
> written and released on 1 September 2001, but I seem to remember it being
> posted last year, also that date hasn't happened yet:-)

Oopsie. A little slip. I triple-checked though. Darn... :) Rick has been
notified.

> Nice review (though I havn't read it all yet), and thanks for the updated
> feature list it was something I found particularly interesting.

You're welcome. I'm glad you liked it.

> How about a version that's all on one page so that we can d/l the whole
> review at once, here in Europe we pay for our time online.

I doubt Rick will do that. Sorry. :(


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 05:06:31
Message: <3b90a517@news.povray.org>
> > How about a version that's all on one page so that we can d/l the whole
> > review at once, here in Europe we pay for our time online.
>
> I doubt Rick will do that. Sorry. :(

Perhaps once the article's system is database then I could do that, but not
as it stands - its more work for me to combine it all into one doc than it
would be for you to save each page :)


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 05:56:35
Message: <3b90b0d3@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> > How about a version that's all on one page so that we
> > can d/l the whole review at once, here in Europe we pay
> > for our time online.
>
> I doubt Rick will do that. Sorry. :(

Who has the rights of the article - Tony[B] or povray.co.uk ?

If it's ok I could combine the article into one and upload it temporarily to
my website space.

Of course I take that back if the beta comes out before I get a chance to do
it, which is not that unlikely...

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 05:56:36
Message: <3b90b0d4$1@news.povray.org>
"Ken" wrote:
> It is 99.951% ready for beta release. Just working on a
> few last minute changes to the scene files and docs
> because of a last minute change to the feature list.

And last minute bug fixes that affects the scene files...

Rune
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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 10:11:24
Message: <3b90ec8c@news.povray.org>
> Who has the rights of the article - Tony[B] or povray.co.uk ?

Well... I wrote it, but Rick did do a lot of work to get it up and present
it, so in a way, what you see online belongs to both of us, but more to me,
of course.

> If it's ok I could combine the article into one and
> upload it temporarily to my website space.

Fine by me. Rick?

> Of course I take that back if the beta comes out before
> I get a chance to do it, which is not that unlikely...

True. :)


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From: Andrea Ryan
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 17:03:17
Message: <3B914AA7.B92D0447@global2000.net>
Wow, these examples are fascinating!  I didn't hear about some of these
features before.  Facets should look good on things like stairway
railings.  I plan to use these for my pov museum.
Brendan


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 17:48:26
Message: <3b9157aa@news.povray.org>
> Wow, these examples are fascinating!

I'm glad you like them! I and my contributors worked very hard on them. :)

> I didn't hear about some of these
> features before.

I'm especially glad the article was informative.


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 17:59:41
Message: <3b915a4d$1@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" <ben### [at] catholicorg> wrote in message
news:3b9157aa@news.povray.org...
> > Wow, these examples are fascinating!
>
> I'm glad you like them! I and my contributors worked very hard on them. :)
>
> > I didn't hear about some of these
> > features before.
>
> I'm especially glad the article was informative.

I just have one complaint about the article:

It's a tease.  All you've done is whet our appetites :)

...Chambers


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 1 Sep 2001 20:20:02
Message: <3b917b32@news.povray.org>
> I just have one complaint about the article:
>
> It's a tease.  All you've done is whet our appetites :)

Then my work here is done. ;)

Don't worry Ben. It'll be out very very soon. I can't go into specific
dates, but less than a month is an overstatement.


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: POVRAY 3.5 - The Beans are in here!
Date: 3 Sep 2001 15:43:57
Message: <3b93dd7d@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> "Rune" wrote:
> > If it's ok I could combine the article into one and
> > upload it temporarily to my website space.
>
> Fine by me. Rick?
>
> > Of course I take that back if the beta comes out before
> > I get a chance to do it, which is not that unlikely...
>
> True. :)

Um - as things look now - I don't think I want to do it...

:)

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