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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Updated Website
Date: 20 Mar 2001 20:22:34
Message: <3ab8025a@news.povray.org>
Hi all,

Well I have finally updated my website and mainly the POV-Ray section. I've
added links to some code that I use in my scenes (i.e Isosurface Water and
Media Clouds) and am hoping to get some code to some of the models I am
curently working on up soon (when I finish the pics that they are in). If
you want to see it go to http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis under
The 'My Interests' Section.

Please look around and tell me what is missing, one thing that is missing is
a link to http://www.povray.co.uk which I just realised and will add
tomorrow-ish.

So what do you think?

Kev

http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 20 Mar 2001 21:08:15
Message: <3AB80D92.326D93B5@pacbell.net>
Kevin Ellis wrote:

> Please look around and tell me...

In Nescape most of the text appears as black on dark blue rendering it
virtually impossible to read.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 20 Mar 2001 21:18:02
Message: <3AB80E7F.C4B0A22D@videotron.ca>
Kevin Ellis wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Well I have finally updated my website and mainly the POV-Ray section. I've
> added links to some code that I use in my scenes (i.e Isosurface Water and
> Media Clouds) and am hoping to get some code to some of the models I am
> curently working on up soon (when I finish the pics that they are in). If
> you want to see it go to http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis under
> The 'My Interests' Section.

None of the images load in Netscape.

I will also add a very AOLian "Me too" to Ken's comment.

-- 
Francois Labreque | The surest sign of the existence of extra-
    flabreque     | terrestrial intelligence is that they never
        @         | bothered to come down here and visit us!
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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 20 Mar 2001 21:26:35
Message: <3AB8107F.6EC863B8@videotron.ca>
Francois Labreque wrote:
> 
> Kevin Ellis wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Well I have finally updated my website and mainly the POV-Ray section. I've
> > added links to some code that I use in my scenes (i.e Isosurface Water and
> > Media Clouds) and am hoping to get some code to some of the models I am
> > curently working on up soon (when I finish the pics that they are in). If
> > you want to see it go to http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis under
> > The 'My Interests' Section.
> 
> None of the images load in Netscape.

Let me rephrase that: "None of the demo-scenes from (mega)POV(ray) load
in Netscape".  After a looksie at the source, I think it's due to the
fact that the path is using backslashes '\' rather than forward slashes
'/'.

-- 
Francois Labreque | The surest sign of the existence of extra-
    flabreque     | terrestrial intelligence is that they never
        @         | bothered to come down here and visit us!
  videotron.ca    |                             - Calvin


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From: Kari Kivisalo
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 06:19:07
Message: <3AB88E30.E7328E22@kivisalo.net>
Ken wrote:
>
> In Nescape most of the text appears as black on dark blue rendering it
> virtually impossible to read.

Indeed. Turning on javascript didn't help either. URLs like this:
http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis/interest\pov\mpov7_1.jpg
are not exactly standard :) (in the pov page)

______________________________________________________________________
Kari Kivisalo                                  http://www.kivisalo.net


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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 13:36:51
Message: <3ab8f4c3@news.povray.org>
Oops sorry.

Well I fixed the back-slashes to forward-slashes, which should help with the
images. I think the black text problem is my fault and caused by me
forgetting to put the body standard stuff in after I had changed to Style
Sheets, does Netscape not support Style sheets?

Oh well looks like I had better do some editing.

Sorry again, but I have added the link to povray.co.uk, so I'm not all bad,
honest :)

Kev

http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 14:17:14
Message: <3AB8FE3A.D7A07DED@gmx.de>
Kevin Ellis wrote:
> 
> Oops sorry.
> 
> Well I fixed the back-slashes to forward-slashes, which should help with the
> images. I think the black text problem is my fault and caused by me
> forgetting to put the body standard stuff in after I had changed to Style
> Sheets, does Netscape not support Style sheets?
> 

It's still black text on blue background here in Netscape, even with style
sheets enabled.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 14:23:37
Message: <3ab8ffb9@news.povray.org>
Anyone have any idea why and how to fix it? I personally haven't got a clue.

Kev

http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 14:56:16
Message: <3AB9075E.BBCEEA7B@gmx.de>
Kevin Ellis wrote:
> 
> Anyone have any idea why and how to fix it? I personally haven't got a clue.
> 

I don't know much about style sheets, but i suppose you use some IE
specific and/or CSS 2.0 features.  Tried it in IE 3 :-) and the color was
better while the font size was extremely small.

maybe http://www.w3.org/Style/ can help.

Christoph

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From: Sander
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:06:12
Message: <MPG.152335fa73cb18d8989714@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <3ab8025a@news.povray.org>, Kevin Ellis says...
> Hi all,
> 
> Well I have finally updated my website and mainly the POV-Ray section. I've
> added links to some code that I use in my scenes (i.e Isosurface Water and
> Media Clouds) and am hoping to get some code to some of the models I am
> curently working on up soon (when I finish the pics that they are in). If
> you want to see it go to http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis under
> The 'My Interests' Section.
> 
> Please look around and tell me what is missing, one thing that is missing is
> a link to http://www.povray.co.uk which I just realised and will add
> tomorrow-ish.
> 
> So what do you think?
After all the less than positive critiques I want to tell you that it 
just looks great in IE5! Nice coloring, nicely readable texts and the 
images stand out fine. It's clearly made and checked for and in IE, 
then, judging the other comments. Off-hand I have no idea what could be 
wrong, but someone else is bound to help you out, I hope :-)
-- 
Regards,  Sander


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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:33:10
Message: <3ab91e16@news.povray.org>
Thanks, I think it mainly has to do with the base tag which doesn't seem to
work in Netscape, I just installed v6 and the links don't work right it
keeps looking in the current directory instead of the base directory, silly
netscape

Kev

http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 16:54:12
Message: <Xns906BE93CC1728seed7@povray.org>
in <3AB9075E.BBCEEA7B@gmx.de> Christoph Hormann wrote:

>Kevin Ellis wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone have any idea why and how to fix it? I personally haven't
>> got a clue. 
>> 
>
>I don't know much about style sheets, but i suppose you use some IE
>specific and/or CSS 2.0 features.  Tried it in IE 3 :-) and the
>color was better while the font size was extremely small.
>

Had a look with Amaya, colours are ok, fonts are too small. In the 
stylesheet I changed the font-size for the body to 1.25em; and all 
looked ok, also in IE5.
Also the column width isnt right in Amaya, didn't look into that any 
further.

Ingo

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Pov-Ray    : http://members.home.nl/seed7/


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From: Chris Colefax
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 18:13:05
Message: <3ab93581@news.povray.org>
Kevin Ellis <kev### [at] libertysurfcouk> wrote:
> Anyone have any idea why and how to fix it? I personally haven't got a
clue.

Netscape 4.x supports stylesheets if JavaScript is enabled, but in this case
"supports" is a fairly flexible term!  I think the main problem is that
Netscape doesn't give child elements of the document body the body's font
styles.  That means when you use paragraphs, quotes, table cells, etc.
(without specifying styles for these) POV-Ray uses the default style (i.e.
black serif font), rather than inherited styles.

The solution is to explicitly specify the basic font styles for all the
elements that will use them, e.g.:

body, p, td, blockquote {
   font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
   font-size: 0.25em;
   color: #eeeeee;
   }

Anything specific to the body or table cells, etc., can then go in their own
styles.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 18:16:47
Message: <3ab9365f@news.povray.org>
Chris Colefax <chr### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
: That means when you use paragraphs, quotes, table cells, etc.
: (without specifying styles for these) POV-Ray uses the default style

  I know someone who has been raytracing for too long... ;)

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 18:18:53
Message: <3AB93762.ACB1737D@pacbell.net>
Warp wrote:
> 
> Chris Colefax <chr### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> : That means when you use paragraphs, quotes, table cells, etc.
> : (without specifying styles for these) POV-Ray uses the default style
> 
>   I know someone who has been raytracing for too long... ;)

:)

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Chris Colefax
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 18:31:44
Message: <3ab939e0@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>   I know someone who has been raytracing for too long... ;)

...or whose been answering too many POV-related questions, and not
raytracing enough (it's in the fingers, you know!).


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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 21 Mar 2001 18:47:23
Message: <3ab93d8b@news.povray.org>
Thanks a lot Chris, I'll look into it.

Kev
--
http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 22 Mar 2001 04:22:47
Message: <3ab9c467$1@news.povray.org>
"Chris Colefax" <chr### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3ab93581@news.povray.org...
>
> Netscape 4.x supports stylesheets if JavaScript is enabled, but in this
case
> "supports" is a fairly flexible term!  I think the main problem is that
> Netscape doesn't give child elements of the document body the body's font
> styles.  That means when you use paragraphs, quotes, table cells, etc.
> (without specifying styles for these) POV-Ray uses the default style (i.e.
> black serif font), rather than inherited styles.
>

What!?! But that's a terrible bug!

BTW IMHO it would be better to use relative sizes rather than fixed sizes
for fonts.

Followups to o.t.


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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 22 Mar 2001 15:02:16
Message: <3aba5a48@news.povray.org>
Thanks for the comments.

OK, I've made quite a few changes and it should now work in Netscape,
although I've only checked it in v6. It should even be readable (though
awful looking) with style sheets turned off. Could someone check to see if
it loks ok now, cheers

Kev

http://perso.libertysurf.co.uk/kevin.ellis


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 22 Mar 2001 15:50:42
Message: <3ABA65A3.BED25954@gmx.de>
Kevin Ellis wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the comments.
> 
> OK, I've made quite a few changes and it should now work in Netscape,
> although I've only checked it in v6. It should even be readable (though
> awful looking) with style sheets turned off. Could someone check to see if
> it loks ok now, cheers
> 

Looks good now (Netscape 4.7).

Christoph

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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 22 Mar 2001 16:43:28
Message: <3aba7200@news.povray.org>
Thanks

Kev
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From: J Charter
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 24 Mar 2001 12:55:27
Message: <3ABCE173.B8292709@aol.com>
Works fine for me in Netscape and I have no idea what my settings are, all
defaults presumably.  You have a real nice line of images going there.  I like
the direction.  There seems to be a very studied use of pictorial elements,
ever more refined technique, and an evolving vision that that does not rely on
a particular genre.

-Jim


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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 25 Mar 2001 07:25:20
Message: <3abde3b0@news.povray.org>
Thanks, I think my skills are improving faster than before but I'm still a
long way off the true masters i.e. Gilles, Mick, H E Day, but hopefully one
day I can catch up, although I'm probably just kidding myself :)

If only I could work out how to use textures effectively.

Kev
--
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 28 Mar 2001 10:36:02
Message: <3ac204e2$1@news.povray.org>
I really like the design - nice and simple! :)
(I'm using IE.)

The images are great too. I especially like "door to enlightenment".

Rune
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From: Kevin Ellis
Subject: Re: Updated Website
Date: 28 Mar 2001 16:09:59
Message: <3ac25327@news.povray.org>
Thanks, glad you like it.

Kev
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