Hi,

I'm looking for some bird models for use in my scenes. I have a raven in 3ds
format, but I don't think it fits to well in my scene. Any other bird models
out there?

TIA,

Marc-Hendrik

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Marc-Hendrik Bremer <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:

> Hi,

> I'm looking for some bird models for use in my scenes. I have a raven in 3ds
> format, but I don't think it fits to well in my scene. Any other bird models
> out there?

Gilles Trans, in his discussion of the Wet bird scene, has a pointer to a
little bird, done in sPatch.  I used it for my Door into Summer pic,
forexample.  It's a fairly simple model, but depending on how detailed you
want, it might be sufficient.

Geoff

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Geoff Wedig schrieb in Nachricht <3a9e67f9@news.povray.org>...
>Gilles Trans, in his discussion of the Wet bird scene, has a pointer to a
>little bird, done in sPatch.  I used it for my Door into Summer pic,
>forexample.  It's a fairly simple model, but depending on how detailed you
>want, it might be sufficient.


Thanks Geoff. I couldn't find the bird in your posted scenes, but I think
it's now in an unpublished version.
I got the model and it looks promising. Enough details for my scene, I
think. At least it's a startingpoint for more e modelling if necessary.
How did you do the textures? Or aren't they that important for your scene?
If Gilles fails to uv-map a texture on it, I better not even try (well, I
will but only if I have to). Or did you texture the individual patches?

Marc-Hendrik

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Marc-Hendrik Bremer <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:

> Geoff Wedig schrieb in Nachricht <3a9e67f9@news.povray.org>...
>>Gilles Trans, in his discussion of the Wet bird scene, has a pointer to a
>>little bird, done in sPatch.  I used it for my Door into Summer pic,
>>forexample.  It's a fairly simple model, but depending on how detailed you
>>want, it might be sufficient.


> Thanks Geoff. I couldn't find the bird in your posted scenes, but I think
> it's now in an unpublished version.
> I got the model and it looks promising. Enough details for my scene, I
> think. At least it's a startingpoint for more e modelling if necessary.
> How did you do the textures? Or aren't they that important for your scene?
> If Gilles fails to uv-map a texture on it, I better not even try (well, I
> will but only if I have to). Or did you texture the individual patches?

Little of both, actually.  The bird is a fairly small segment of my scene,
so I didn't have to have hugely detailed textures.  First I seperated it
into body segment, beak, and legs, so I could texture them separately (did
this in sPatch).  The beak and legs could be textured pretty much uniformly
in color.  The body was a bit harder, but I created a streaky texture back
to front, then made a gradient on it from dark to light, with a slight color
change, in the up direction.  That gave me something that (very) roughly
approximated a color shift from the belly to the back, with a color
variation forming lines parallel to the feathers.  It didn't look *too* bad
in close ups, though I'll admit it didn't look great, but for the small size
in the pic, it worked great.

Geoff

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Geoff Wedig schrieb in Nachricht <3a9f97a2@news.povray.org>...
>Little of both, actually.  The bird is a fairly small segment of my scene,
>so I didn't have to have hugely detailed textures.  First I seperated it
>into body segment, beak, and legs, so I could texture them separately (did
>this in sPatch).  The beak and legs could be textured pretty much uniformly
>in color.

Yes, I did the same. That should make it possible to vary the pose of the
bird a little bit, too.

>  The body was a bit harder, but I created a streaky texture back
>to front, then made a gradient on it from dark to light, with a slight
color
>change, in the up direction.  That gave me something that (very) roughly
>approximated a color shift from the belly to the back, with a color
>variation forming lines parallel to the feathers.  It didn't look *too* bad
>in close ups, though I'll admit it didn't look great, but for the small
size
>in the pic, it worked great.


I'm anxious to see that part. I'm trying to make a uv-imagemap at the
moment. It's not that hard to get the overall shape right, if it has not to
be photorealisitc (the sparrows will be only small in my scene, too) but as
I'm not good with mouse and pixels I'm struggling with the
feather-structure.
Perhaps I'll ask for more help if I don't succeed at all.

Marc-Hendrik

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    There are two that I can think of offhand..

http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-06-30/toucan.jpg and
http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-06-30/bluejay.jpg are examples
of the two.  There where two winners, and source can be downloaded
from http://www.irtc.org/stills/1998-06-30.html

"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in
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> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for some bird models for use in my scenes. I have a
> raven in 3ds format, but I don't think it fits to well in my scene.
> Any other bird models out there?
>
> TIA,
>
> Marc-Hendrik

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They are both great - and made long before all these new features like
isosurfaces and such (that branches in the "blue jay"-scene are amazing).
Unfortunately they both fit not that well in a "urban" environment.

Thanks anyway - I'll keep in mind to check the IRTC more when I search
special models.

Marc-Hendrik

Thomas Charron schrieb in Nachricht <3a9fda33@news.povray.org>...
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>    There are two that I can think of offhand..
>
>http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-06-30/toucan.jpg and
>http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-06-30/bluejay.jpg are examples
>of the two.  There where two winners, and source can be downloaded
>from http://www.irtc.org/stills/1998-06-30.html
>

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>     There are two that I can think of offhand..

> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-06-30/toucan.jpg and
> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-06-30/bluejay.jpg are examples
> of the two.  There where two winners, and source can be downloaded
> from http://www.irtc.org/stills/1998-06-30.html

Oh, very nice.  If I wasn't already animating my scene, I'd think about
taking the blue jay and re-texturing it to be a cardinal.  Oh well.

Geoff

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    Well, the bluejay could prob be modified fairly easily to be a
 pigeon instead..  Mess with the beak some, lose the crest, which is
 actually a seperate sPatch layer, so VERY easy to get rid of, just
 delete it.. :-)  I started to modify it to look kinda like a dove,
 but had other priorities in life and never really finished..

"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" <Mar### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in
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> They are both great - and made long before all these new features
> like isosurfaces and such (that branches in the "blue jay"-scene
> are amazing). Unfortunately they both fit not that well in a
> "urban" environment. Thanks anyway - I'll keep in mind to check the
> IRTC more when I search special models.

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That is probably right (it is easy to modify)- but to be honest, I have the
sparrow ready already and since it took me half a day to get the image_map
right, I'll use that one.
It's good to know were to find more if it's needed, but I'll probably not
use it for this scene.

Marc-Hendrik

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