I like surfing on all the many interesting POV-Ray related websites around,
but I don't do it much since I never know when there's something new on the
different websites. Browsing through lots of pages regularly just to find
that 95% have not been updated since last time I checked is not very fun...

So I encourage web authors to make available services to which visitors can
subscribe, so they'll get an e-mail at major updates of the site. Another
nice thing is a "what's new" list which shortly states the latest updates on
the site, so one know what to look for.

I'd gladly subscribe to many such services if I had the option. I also think
it's a good method for web authors to get more traffic on their sites, and
who wouldn't like that?

For examples of what I mean you can visit my own website
(http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk), and I know Lance Birch provides these services
too on his website (http://come.to/the.zone), as well as Chris Colefax
(http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1434/).

Rune
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> For examples of what I mean you can visit my own website
> (http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk), and I know Lance Birch provides these services
> too on his website (http://come.to/the.zone), as well as Chris Colefax
> (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1434/).

and were working on a full user based community :) - you will just have to
bear with me while i write it !!


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Hi Rune, you recently wrote in povray.general:

> So I encourage web authors to make available services to which visitors can
> subscribe, so they'll get an e-mail at major updates of the site. 
You can use the netmind service (http://www.netmind.com/) to do this
on any website.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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I have added two simple e-mail links to my site and I will create a mailing list
the old fashioned way. It's a good idea, and I don't see any good reason why I
haven't done it yet ; )

Josh

Rune wrote:

> I like surfing on all the many interesting POV-Ray related websites around,
> but I don't do it much since I never know when there's something new on the
> different websites. Browsing through lots of pages regularly just to find
> that 95% have not been updated since last time I checked is not very fun...
>
> So I encourage web authors to make available services to which visitors can
> subscribe, so they'll get an e-mail at major updates of the site. Another
> nice thing is a "what's new" list which shortly states the latest updates on
> the site, so one know what to look for.
>
> I'd gladly subscribe to many such services if I had the option. I also think
> it's a good method for web authors to get more traffic on their sites, and
> who wouldn't like that?
>
> For examples of what I mean you can visit my own website
> (http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk), and I know Lance Birch provides these services
> too on his website (http://come.to/the.zone), as well as Chris Colefax
> (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1434/).
>
> Rune
> --
> \ Include files, tutorials, 3D images, raytracing jokes,
> / The POV Desktop Theme, and The POV-Ray Logo Contest can
> \ all be found at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated January 6)
> / Also visit http://www.povrayusers.org

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Rune wrote:
> 
> I like surfing on all the many interesting POV-Ray related websites around,
> but I don't do it much since I never know when there's something new on the
> different websites. Browsing through lots of pages regularly just to find
> that 95% have not been updated since last time I checked is not very fun...
> 
> So I encourage web authors to make available services to which visitors can
> subscribe, so they'll get an e-mail at major updates of the site. Another
> nice thing is a "what's new" list which shortly states the latest updates on
> the site, so one know what to look for.
> 

I have a 'last updated [date]' on my page, but i don't manage to change
this every time i add something.  I will think about adding a change
history.

As Lutz mentioned you can also use netmind, but they send advertisement
mails even if nothing has changed on the monitored page, furthermore i
don't know if it only works for single pages or whole websites.

Christoph

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Been there done that, and you're on my mailing list! :)

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I have had a email notification on the PRSG and only one guy signed up for
it. What I think would be nice, is if the new POV Ray webring had a listing
of last updates for member pages. Maybe this can be done on the List section
of the webring sorting by most recent updates. This would make it much
easier to find the pages that are being updated for everyone.

Opinions?

C.J. - POV User

"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
news:3a6774e6@news.povray.org...
> I like surfing on all the many interesting POV-Ray related websites
around,
> but I don't do it much since I never know when there's something new on
the
> different websites. Browsing through lots of pages regularly just to find
> that 95% have not been updated since last time I checked is not very
fun...
>
> So I encourage web authors to make available services to which visitors
can
> subscribe, so they'll get an e-mail at major updates of the site. Another
> nice thing is a "what's new" list which shortly states the latest updates
on
> the site, so one know what to look for.
>
> I'd gladly subscribe to many such services if I had the option. I also
think
> it's a good method for web authors to get more traffic on their sites, and
> who wouldn't like that?
>
> For examples of what I mean you can visit my own website
> (http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk), and I know Lance Birch provides these services
> too on his website (http://come.to/the.zone), as well as Chris Colefax
> (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1434/).
>
> Rune
> --
> \ Include files, tutorials, 3D images, raytracing jokes,
> / The POV Desktop Theme, and The POV-Ray Logo Contest can
> \ all be found at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated January 6)
> / Also visit http://www.povrayusers.org
>
>

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what about group povray.websites on this news server ?
with proper [ANNOUNCEMENTS] ?

ABX

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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> and were working on a full user based community :)
> - you will just have to bear with me while i write it !!

I'm sorry, but I don't understand that sentence.
Care to explain what you're talking about?

Rune
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"Lutz Kretzschmar" wrote:
> You can use the netmind service (http://www.netmind.com/)
> to do this on any website.

Hmm, don't know that one. How does it work?

I use ByteCenter myself. ( http://www.bytecenter.com/ )
It works this way. I have a form on my website where people can submit their
e-mail.
There's no limitations to the design of this form. The form call a script at
ByteCenter which forwards the submitted data to me.
Then I put all the addresses in the BCC field when sending out news per
e-mail.

There's no ads or anything. The only disadvantage is that user has to
confirm the data-transmission on a warning page before it's send. This is so
people can't use the service to get peoples' credit card numbers and the
like. You have no control over the look of the warning page, but it looks
rather neutral with no ads or anything.

Basically I think ByteCenter offers a very good service.

Rune
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"Josh English" wrote:
> I will create a mailing list the old fashioned way.

Nice!

Rune
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"Lance Birch" wrote:
> Been there done that, and you're on my mailing list! :)

Well, why do you think I mentioned your site as an example!? :D

Rune
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"C.J." wrote:
> What I think would be nice, is if the new POV Ray webring
> had a listing of last updates for member pages. Maybe this
> can be done on the List section of the webring sorting by
> most recent updates. This would make it much easier to find
> the pages that are being updated for everyone.
>
> Opinions?

That too would be nice if it is possible, but it wouldn't work as a
replacement of what I suggested. But that's probably not what you meant
anyway.

Rune
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In article <3A6846D4.15429101@gmx.de>, Christoph Hormann 
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>I have a 'last updated [date]' on my page, but i don't manage to change
>this every time i add something.

I would never remember to add this; I use the webserver to do it for me.
If you are using Apache, you can make your page be an shtml file and use

<!--#echo var="DATE_MODIFIED" -->

Here is a more complicated example that I use for displaying the last
modified time and the size of files that I'm linking to:

<!--#config timefmt="%b %e, %Y" -->
<!--#config sizefmt="abbrev" -->

<ul>
<li><a href="Rules/">The Rules</a> (Last uploaded <!--#flastmod file="Rules" -->)</li>

<li><a href="The%20Game.pdf">Adobe PDF version of "Gods & Monsters"</a>
(Last uploaded <!--#flastmod file="The Game.pdf" -->; <!--#fsize file="The Game.pdf"
-->b)</li>

<li><a href="The%20Game.rtf.gz">Rich Text Format version (gzipped)</a>
(Last uploaded <!--#flastmod file="The Game.rtf.gz" -->; <!--#fsize file="The
Game.rtf.gz" -->b)</li>

<li><a href="The%20Game.html">One-file HTML version</a>
(Last uploaded <!--#flastmod file="The Game.html" -->; <!--#fsize file="The Game.html"
-->b)</li>

</ul>

I try to automate stuff like this whenever possible :*)

(Ob.POV: the logo and the images in the game were created in POV.)

Jerry
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depleted the lake."--It Isn't Murder If They're Yankees
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Now that would be great!

I've opted for the 'Latest News' way of doing things on my site.  I find 
it a bit more useful than just using a 'page last updated' because it 
lets people know what has actually changed.

Steve

http://website.lineone.net/~sacrofts/

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What it would do Rune, is show which sites have had a recent change. This
would aid in looking at a list of site to see which ones have had changes.
It would be something like the page last updated scripts that are on many
sites. The difference would just be were they are read. Although, I do
wonder if a script could be done like a latest news that could be updated by
the site owner and then the webring could tap into it....
hmm...

C.J. - POV User

"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
news:3a6868e2$1@news.povray.org...
> "C.J." wrote:
> > What I think would be nice, is if the new POV Ray webring
> > had a listing of last updates for member pages. Maybe this
> > can be done on the List section of the webring sorting by
> > most recent updates. This would make it much easier to find
> > the pages that are being updated for everyone.
> >
> > Opinions?
>
> That too would be nice if it is possible, but it wouldn't work as a
> replacement of what I suggested. But that's probably not what you meant
> anyway.
>
> Rune
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> / The POV Desktop Theme, and The POV-Ray Logo Contest can
> \ all be found at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated January 6)
> / Also visit http://www.povrayusers.org
>
>

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Hi Rune, you recently wrote in povray.general:

> Hmm, don't know that one. How does it work?
This one is user-based, not host-based. I mean that the surfer that
wants to be reminded when a webpage has changed, enters the URL and
his email. NetMind then checks the page daily and will send you a
notification if it's changed.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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I added a mailing list but decided it wasn't really needed as I have a recent
update and full update list. It's enough work to update it anyway (I should be
doing that more in bulk probably, though it's nice to see a page that
continually grows).

But I did make a guestbook. :)

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In article <3a6774e6@news.povray.org>, "Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> 
wrote:

> So I encourage web authors to make available services to which 
> visitors can subscribe, so they'll get an e-mail at major updates of 
> the site. Another nice thing is a "what's new" list which shortly 
> states the latest updates on the site, so one know what to look for.

I have a "News" list, with the site updates, on the index page of my 
site, but I doubt there is enough interest to bother setting up a 
mailing list. Besides, I rarely update it, and the updates are usually 
minor when I do...and I don't always remember to update the News items, 
so I don't think having another thing to remember would work well. :-)

I find that my web site sometimes goes for long periods without 
updates...I'm wondering how other people manage their page updates. I'm 
thinking of trying to update it on a specific week each month unless I'm 
releasing software or something else that would be worth an exception, 
has anyone else tried this kind of system?

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YOU DID?  *goes and looks*

Oh, so you did :)  hehe

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My site's not very large at the moment, but I find making small updates 
regularly (about once a month) works quite well.  I try to find 
something to add or change each month, even just a new link for the 
links page.  I think my interest in the site would grind to a halt if I 
left it too long to update it :-)

Steve

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"C.J." wrote:

> it. What I think would be nice, is if the new POV Ray webring had a listing
> of last updates for member pages. Maybe this can be done on the List section
> of the webring sorting by most recent updates. This would make it much
> easier to find the pages that are being updated for everyone.
> 

As I am the author of the new POV-ring scripts, I can say that this is
basically possible. It will need some changes to the listing procedure
and store additional infos about the change of the page. And of course
an interface where the ring members could tell that their pages got
updated.
Another question is whether the members really would do that every time. 

At the moment I have some other projects running - but if somebody else
wants to try it, the scripts are written in PERL and under GPL license.
EMail me if you want the source.

- Micha Riser

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> As I am the author of the new POV-ring scripts, I can say that this is
> basically possible. It will need some changes to the listing procedure
> and store additional infos about the change of the page. And of course
> an interface where the ring members could tell that their pages got
> updated.
> Another question is whether the members really would do that every time.

what about sites that have updated content several times a day?


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