My website "The RSJ Website" has changed name to "Rune's World". Less
cryptic, isn't it?
The address is still the same though:

http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk

I have improved the design on the website. I'd like to know what you think
of it. All the web-graphics (Panel bar and so on) are made with POV-Ray and
MegaPov. Also, if the new design looks strange with your browser, or if
there's any problems with it, please tell me.

I have also added the image "No More Chrome Spheres Please!" to the 3D
gallery in a version a little larger than the one posted in p.b.i. Source
code is available too.

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Rune wrote:
> 
> My website "The RSJ Website" has changed name to "Rune's World". Less
> cryptic, isn't it?
> The address is still the same though:
> 
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> 
> I have improved the design on the website. I'd like to know what you think
> of it. All the web-graphics (Panel bar and so on) are made with POV-Ray and
> MegaPov. Also, if the new design looks strange with your browser, or if
> there's any problems with it, please tell me.
> 

Looks mostly good here, but i suspect the white rectangles around the
bullets in the text are not intended.  

BTW, how did you do the "Rune's World" text ?

Christoph

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Looks swell. : ) And true, that is a better name.

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Looks fine. Pretty much the same as before anyway.

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"Christoph Hormann" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> > if the new design looks strange with your browser, or if
> > there's any problems with it, please tell me.
>
> Looks mostly good here, but i suspect the white rectangles
> around the bullets in the text are not intended.

I'm not sure what you mean. Can you send me a small screenshot of the
relevant part?

And which browser are you using?

> BTW, how did you do the "Rune's World" text ?

The text is a HF made with "Level Connecter" which you can get here:
http://www.kivisalo.net/

The white glow is a blurred version of the text used as a material_map.

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Rune wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean. Can you send me a small screenshot of the
> relevant part?
> 
> And which browser are you using?
> 

Screenshot went via pm.

I used Netscape 4.7

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"Tony[B]" wrote:
> Looks swell. : )

Thanks!

> And true, that is a better name.

Glad you think so.

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"David Fontaine" wrote:
> Looks fine.

Thanks!

> Pretty much the same as before anyway.

Thus the word "improve" rather than "change". :)
I think the blue and red boxes around the headers make the pages look more
colorful.

The biggest structural change perhaps is that I've removed all descriptions
of under-pages. Before the change you could read about under-pages before
you went there. But the disadvantage was that it took up a lot of space (not
disc space, but space on the pages), made the pages less clear and more
tiresome to maintain. All in all I think it's better without those
descriptions.

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"Christoph Hormann" wrote:
> Screenshot went via pm.
>
> I used Netscape 4.7

The style sheet wasn't loaded. The page looks very ugly without it. It works
fine for me when I use Netscape 4.7. Here's a screenshot of how it's
supposed to look:

http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/welcome/screenshot.jpg

Did it happen with all the pages? Does it help to reload?

Does anybody else have the same problem?

Thanks for the feedback!

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Rune wrote:
> 
> The style sheet wasn't loaded. The page looks very ugly without it. It works
> fine for me when I use Netscape 4.7. Here's a screenshot of how it's
> supposed to look:
> 
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/welcome/screenshot.jpg
> 
> Did it happen with all the pages? Does it help to reload?
> 
> Does anybody else have the same problem?
> 
> Thanks for the feedback!
> 

After activating Javascript it worked ok. I turned it off for some reason
some time ago and did not yet turn it on again.  

Christoph

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"Christoph Hormann" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> > The style sheet wasn't loaded.
>
> After activating Javascript it worked ok.

Strange. Although I do use a little Javascript on my pages, it does not have
anything to do with the style sheet.

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Rune wrote:
> 
> Strange. Although I do use a little Javascript on my pages, it does not have
> anything to do with the style sheet.
> 
> Rune

It's probably a bug in Netscapes settings, although there is a seperate
checkbox for style sheets, it seems to mix things up.

Christoph

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Rune wrote:
> 
> Strange. Although I do use a little Javascript on my pages, it does not have
> anything to do with the style sheet.
> 

I discovered the same problem when designing my pages: disabling javascript in
NS 4.7 also disables style sheets.

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"Margus Ramst" wrote:
> I discovered the same problem when designing my pages:
> disabling javascript in NS 4.7 also disables style sheets.

Sheesh... Yet another reason for me to dislike NS.

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Rune wrote:
> 
> My website "The RSJ Website" has changed name to "Rune's World". Less
> cryptic, isn't it?
> The address is still the same though:
> 
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> 
> I have improved the design on the website. I'd like to know what you think
> of it. All the web-graphics (Panel bar and so on) are made with POV-Ray and
> MegaPov. Also, if the new design looks strange with your browser, or if
> there's any problems with it, please tell me.

I can only access it if I type the URL in my browser.  Trying to click
on the above URL, times-out with "2% of 21K" on the status bar.  To me
(after peeking at the source HTML), it looks like a problem with the way
Nedstat.net counts the referrals stats).

Netscape 4.75 with Javascript and style-sheets enabled, if you need to
know.

Site looks good, btw.
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 03:13:22 +0100, Rune wrote:
>"Christoph Hormann" wrote:
>> Screenshot went via pm.
>>
>> I used Netscape 4.7
>
>The style sheet wasn't loaded.
[...]
>Did it happen with all the pages? Does it help to reload?
>
>Does anybody else have the same problem?

I would have it too, if I was currently using Netscape, since I always
have JavaScript disabled.

I'm using Mozilla now (0.6 finally seems to be quite stable
and useable, although it's still a bit slow), and I noticed
that the text in the boxes isn't wrapped (see screenshot at
http://www.hjp.at/povray/runes-world-ss.jpg), and there isn't a
horizontal scrollbar either! There also don't seem to be any links to
the actual images in gallery.html.

I am sure these are bugs in Mozilla, but you might want to know about
them.

	hp

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Rune wrote:
> 
> My website "The RSJ Website" has changed name to "Rune's World". Less
> cryptic, isn't it?
> The address is still the same though:
> 
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> 

It loads ok ONLY if I DISABLE Javascript before loading that link.
Otherwise, it keep waiting for something.

Using NS 4.76

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Looks good. I'm glad you kept the 'whacky' menu.

One thing: you have an image with text (Register to the RSJ website...), I guess
you're going to remove or replace. Anyway, it suffers from JPG-compression which
makes it look like a bit of a blot on such a 'clean' design.

Best wishes,

Remco

Rune wrote:
> 
> My website "The RSJ Website" has changed name to "Rune's World". Less
> cryptic, isn't it?
> The address is still the same though:
> 
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> 
> I have improved the design on the website. I'd like to know what you think
> of it. All the web-graphics (Panel bar and so on) are made with POV-Ray and
> MegaPov. Also, if the new design looks strange with your browser, or if
> there's any problems with it, please tell me.
> 
> I have also added the image "No More Chrome Spheres Please!" to the 3D
> gallery in a version a little larger than the one posted in p.b.i. Source
> code is available too.
> 
> Rune
> --
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"Remco de Korte" wrote:
> Looks good. I'm glad you kept the 'whacky' menu.

:)

> One thing: you have an image with text (Register to the RSJ
> website...), I guess you're going to remove or replace.
> Anyway, it suffers from JPG-compression which makes it look
> like a bit of a blot on such a 'clean' design.

Sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about. AFAIK I have no text
anymore saying "Register to the RSJ website...", and I understand even less
what it has to do with an image. It's not the "submit" button you mean, is
it? Could you send me a small screenshot?

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"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> > Does anybody else have the same problem [with style sheets
> > not loading]?
>
> I would have it too, if I was currently using Netscape, since
> I always have JavaScript disabled.

Hmm, I must look into if there's some method to get those style sheets
working when JavaScript is disabled...

> I'm using Mozilla now (0.6 finally seems to be quite stable
> and useable, although it's still a bit slow), and I noticed
> that the text in the boxes isn't wrapped (see screenshot at
> http://www.hjp.at/povray/runes-world-ss.jpg), and there isn't
> a horizontal scrollbar either! I am sure these are bugs in
> Mozilla, but you might want to know about them.

Thanks, but I'm afraid there's not anything I can do about it.

> There also don't seem to be any links to the actual images
> in gallery.html.

The links a small right-aligned thumbnails. Unfortunately they're all out of
the view using your browser, and thus inaccessible.

Was there some of the pages where the text problem did not occur? Any idea
what might cause it?

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"Francois Labreque" wrote:
> I can only access it if I type the URL in my browser.
> To me it looks like a problem with the way Nedstat.net
> counts the referrals stats.

Thanks, I'll look into it and see what I can do.

> Site looks good, btw.

Thanks! :)

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:55:46 +0100, Rune wrote:
>"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:
>> Rune wrote:
>> > Does anybody else have the same problem [with style sheets
>> > not loading]?
>>
>> I would have it too, if I was currently using Netscape, since
>> I always have JavaScript disabled.
>
>Hmm, I must look into if there's some method to get those style sheets
>working when JavaScript is disabled...

None.  Stylesheets are implemented somehow using JS in Netscape.  This is a
well-known and well-reviled problem.

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"Ron Parker" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> > Hmm, I must look into if there's some method to get those
> > style sheets working when JavaScript is disabled...
>
> None.  Stylesheets are implemented somehow using JS in
> Netscape.  This is a well-known and well-reviled problem.

%#*@¤!!!

I mean...

<long pause>

that was a shame.


Rune

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:55:46 +0100, Rune wrote:
>"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:
>> Rune wrote:
>> > Does anybody else have the same problem [with style sheets
>> > not loading]?
>>
>> I would have it too, if I was currently using Netscape, since
>> I always have JavaScript disabled.
>
>Hmm, I must look into if there's some method to get those style sheets
>working when JavaScript is disabled...

You can't. CSS stylesheets are somehow internally translated into
JavaScript in NS 4.x. 

But the site doesn't look that bad without style sheets. At least I can
see the thumbnails :-)

	hp


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Rune wrote:
> 
> "Remco de Korte" wrote:
> > Looks good. I'm glad you kept the 'whacky' menu.
> 
> :)
> 
> > One thing: you have an image with text (Register to the RSJ
> > website...), I guess you're going to remove or replace.
> > Anyway, it suffers from JPG-compression which makes it look
> > like a bit of a blot on such a 'clean' design.
> 
> Sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about. AFAIK I have no text
> anymore saying "Register to the RSJ website...", and I understand even less
> what it has to do with an image. It's not the "submit" button you mean, is
> it? Could you send me a small screenshot?
> 
> Rune
> --

On this page:

http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/personal/personal.html

you have an image called register.jpg. I don't know about all the other pages.

You could easily check by deleting the image-file and using a url checker (like
Xenu) to find the dead links.

Remco

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"Remco de Korte" wrote:
> On this page:
>
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/personal/personal.html
>
> you have an image called register.jpg. I don't know
> about all the other pages.

Wait, now I get it. It's one of the internal adds in the top-right corner of
the page. It's actually not specifically placed on the personal.html page
but in a JS file shared by all the pages on my website (that's why I didn't
think of it at first). When loaded it randomly chooses one ad out of
several.

Thanks for pointing it out to me. I'll change it when I have time.

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On 8 Jan 2001 13:37:24 -0500, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
wrote:

>>Hmm, I must look into if there's some method to get those style sheets
>>working when JavaScript is disabled...
>
>None.  Stylesheets are implemented somehow using JS in Netscape.  This is a
>well-known and well-reviled problem.

Huh???

That's plain blatantly stupid. They are not even the same order, let
alone species.

My head hurts.


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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:55:46 +0100, Rune wrote:
>"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:
>> I'm using Mozilla now (0.6 finally seems to be quite stable
>> and useable, although it's still a bit slow), and I noticed
>> that the text in the boxes isn't wrapped (see screenshot at
>> http://www.hjp.at/povray/runes-world-ss.jpg), and there isn't
>> a horizontal scrollbar either! I am sure these are bugs in
>> Mozilla, but you might want to know about them.
>
>Thanks, but I'm afraid there's not anything I can do about it.

Actually, I found the problem. 

In the line 

    <colgroup><col width=30><col width="*"><col width=160></colgroup>

the element <col width="*"> seems to confuse Mozilla (except in
blobs.html, which looks ok for some mysterious reason). If the asterisk
is replaced by a fixed width, Mozilla renders the page fine (and it
still rescales the table to fit into the page, which I would not have
expected).

Also the whole colgroup can be removed and the page still looks
fine in Mozilla, Opera, and Netscape (In Netscape 4.74 for
Linux I also have to remove <script type="text/javascript"
src="http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/info/banner"></script> or the page isn't
displayed at all)

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"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:
> Actually, I found the problem.
>
> In the line
>
> <colgroup><col width=30><col width="*"><col width=160></colgroup>
>
> the element <col width="*"> seems to confuse Mozilla
>
> Also the whole colgroup can be removed and the page still looks
> fine in Mozilla, Opera, and Netscape (In Netscape 4.74 for
> Linux I also have to remove <script type="text/javascript"
> src="http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/info/banner"></script> or the page
> isn't displayed at all)

Thanks for the help!

I'll consider what to do now.

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