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From: Shay
Subject: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 09:28:45
Message: <3f78338d$1@news.povray.org>
IIRC, we could with an earlier version of POV-Ray place command line
options within the scene file. I'm curious why this feature was removed,
or if it never existed, why it does not. This would be nice for those of
us using editors besides POV-Win.

 -Shay


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 09:37:51
Message: <0ucgnv8qrdk01tuv4b2hma6fbja83mt8uk@4ax.com>
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:28:44 -0500, "Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote:
> IIRC, we could with an earlier version of POV-Ray place command line
> options within the scene file. I'm curious why this feature was removed,
> or if it never existed, why it does not. This would be nice for those of
> us using editors besides POV-Win.

You probably mean "ini_option" feature of old MegaPOV. There were reasons
(enumerated a few times) why it wasn't implemented in POV-Ray
(http://news.povray.org/povray.unofficial.patches/6592/). Note that, solution
with command-line within GUI is not reserved for POV-Win, see:
http://pyvon.sourceforge.net/

ABX


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 10:13:18
Message: <3f783dfe@news.povray.org>
Shay <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote:
> IIRC, we could with an earlier version of POV-Ray place command line
> options within the scene file.

  You remember wrong. No official version of POV-Ray has ever supported this.

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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 10:43:32
Message: <3f784514$1@news.povray.org>
"ABX" <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote in message
news:0ucgnv8qrdk01tuv4b2hma6fbja83mt8uk@4ax.com...

Thank you, ABX, and, yes, Warp, you are correct. I realized my mistake
when reading through the threads posted by ABX. I did try Pyvon this
weekend, but had some problems. I posted these problems in p.unix for
Fabien.

 -Shay


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 11:43:28
Message: <3f785320$1@news.povray.org>
In article <3f78338d$1@news.povray.org> , "Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote:

> IIRC, we could with an earlier version of POV-Ray place command line
> options within the scene file. I'm curious why this feature was removed,
> or if it never existed, why it does not. This would be nice for those of
> us using editors besides POV-Win.

You never could.  You could in some old version of MegaPOV

It was not added to POV-Ray 3.5 because it fundamentally breaks the way
POV-Ray works and exposed a lot of things to users they should not have
access to.  In particular, the rules which options would be allowed and
which were not allowed.  It also made the files uncontrollable by INI files.
In short, it caused only problems.

    Thorsten

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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 13:44:02
Message: <3F786F57.3050804@hotmail.com>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:


> In short, it caused only problems.
> 

Not for me it didn't. The ini_option feature allowed me to switch 
between dissimilar types of scene files(e.g. a height_field data file 
and a scene file using a the height_field).... without ever having to 
screw with the command line.

It seems to me, a simple toggle can be placed somewhere allowing the 
ini_option feature to be activated.... for those of us who like to use 
it. It could be off by default.


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 29 Sep 2003 18:18:03
Message: <3f78af9b@news.povray.org>
In article <3F7### [at] hotmailcom> , Samuel Benge 
<sbe### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:

> Not for me it didn't.

That doesn't say anything the feature having problems, only that you never
saw a problem when using it.  And you didn't see a problem because you never
tried to use it in every possible way; if it had been included in an
official version, all the bugs it had would have had to be fixed, and some
are unfixable due to what the feature does (or would require POV-Ray to do)
is, well, impossible.  But all this has been discussed before...

    Thorsten

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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 30 Sep 2003 12:20:34
Message: <3F79AD47.3040301@hotmail.com>
Oh well. That's okay. I can just store the ini options as commented code 
and paste them into the command line as needed.

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

>But all this has been discussed before...


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 30 Sep 2003 12:36:48
Message: <3f79b120$1@news.povray.org>
news:3F7### [at] hotmailcom...
> Oh well. That's okay. I can just store the ini options as commented code
> and paste them into the command line as needed.

Note that the Windows version has a feature to do that.
See manual 1.10.11.3.4  Copy "..." to Command-Line
Just right click on a comment that looks like a command line and choose from
the menu.

G.

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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Feature question
Date: 30 Sep 2003 17:51:51
Message: <3F79FAEC.8090400@hotmail.com>
Thank you! Works like a charm :)

Gilles Tran wrote:

> Note that the Windows version has a feature to do that.
> See manual 1.10.11.3.4  Copy "..." to Command-Line
> Just right click on a comment that looks like a command line and choose from
> the menu.
> 
> G.
> 
> 


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