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From: Tom A 
Subject: Shortest Code contest #2
Date: 23 Jul 2002 14:57:34
Message: <3D3DA71D.6DCB05AE@my-deja.com>
Well, now that the votes are in, and the judges are counting the
bribes^h^h^h^h^h^h votes, I'd just like to comment on some of the
entries.

Mine, of course, were great. :-)

They all looked good.  I suppose, the entrants, like me, didn't enter
the ones that didn't.  (I had a picture of some jellyfish, but just
couldn't get them to look right - a dozen or fifty more characters might
have done it.)

Of the other entries, I would say that ks8 - the line drawing of the
airplane, struck me as very unique.  I assume the author created a 3d
set of lines, and just presented 4 rotations of it.  The apparent
simplicity really impressed me. And knowing it was under 500 characters,
wow!

I thought the chocolate bar (cho) was the best looking representative of
a real object.  Is the POV symbol in the fonts shipped with it?  

fwk - the fireworks - looked better as a small picture - it didn't look
as real in the large version.

Most of the abstracts (cit, bs1, bs2, bs3, jn2 ks7, str) didn't do
anything for me.  But for some reason, the blue, blobby one (hf1)
fascinated me.  I'm looking forward to see how that one was generated.

jn1 - the scrub grass? was too dark.  But I am looking forward to seeing
how that was generated, too.  This is one of the best parts of the
contest - seeing parts of POV used that you hadn't understood (or known
about); the length of the code guarantees that it will be fairly clean -
there isn't a lot of room for additions that while they might make the
image better, make the code more difficult to understand.

My one complaint with the last contest (besides not winning :-) was the
expanded code that wasn't commented.  What's the point of putting in the
end of lines, if the code isn't any easier to understand?

Thanks Mr. Johnson for holding this.  Thanks everyone else for entering
(except those who beat me).  I thought all the pictures were good, and
when I picked my top 6 I had a lot of trouble doing it.

-- 
Tom A.
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means they are going out to catch some rays.  - Dr. Science
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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code contest #2
Date: 23 Jul 2002 17:27:50
Message: <3d3dca56$1@news.povray.org>
"Tom A." <tar### [at] my-dejacom> wrote in message
news:3D3DA71D.6DCB05AE@my-deja.com...
> My one complaint with the last contest (besides not winning :-) was the
> expanded code that wasn't commented.  What's the point of putting in the
> end of lines, if the code isn't any easier to understand?

Ah,  but it *is*.


Since you brought it up, here are the results. Been too busy to complete the
web page in timely manner.

ALPHABETICAL SORT
         bytes    bytes^2  EfficiencArtistry Paucity
bs1           280    78400     3.57       10     1.28
bs2           500   250000     9.60       48     1.92
bs3           108    11664     0.00        0     0.00
cdl           497   247009     6.04       30     1.21
cel           498   248004     0.00        0     0.00
cho           485   235225     0.62        3     0.13
cit           496   246016     2.02       10     0.41
crn           497   247009     0.60        3     0.12
eth           439   192721     0.00        0     0.00
fwk           409   167281     4.16       17     1.02
hf1           379   143641     3.17       12     0.84
jar           201    40401     2.99        6     1.49
jn1           447   199809     2.24       10     0.50
jn2           321   103041     3.12       10     0.97
ks7           495   245025     1.21        6     0.24
ks8           470   220900     0.64        3     0.14
ks9           500   250000     4.20       21     0.84
lmp           500   250000     2.60       13     0.52
mud           491   241081     2.85       14     0.58
pto           243    59049    18.11       44     7.45
ray           469   219961     0.85        4     0.18
rv2           423   178929     7.09       30     1.68
rvm           404   163216     0.00        0     0.00
sku           493   243049     0.00        0     0.00
str           150    22500    10.00       15     6.67
ta6           497   247009     0.00        0     0.00
ta7           499   249001     0.00        0     0.00
ta9           426   181476     0.00        0     0.00
tor           494   244036     1.21        6     0.25

EFFICIENCY SORT
         bytes    bytes^2  EfficiencArtistry Paucity
pto           243    59049    18.11       44     7.45
str           150    22500    10.00       15     6.67
bs2           500   250000     9.60       48     1.92
rv2           423   178929     7.09       30     1.68
cdl           497   247009     6.04       30     1.21
ks9           500   250000     4.20       21     0.84
fwk           409   167281     4.16       17     1.02
bs1           280    78400     3.57       10     1.28
hf1           379   143641     3.17       12     0.84
jn2           321   103041     3.12       10     0.97
jar           201    40401     2.99        6     1.49
mud           491   241081     2.85       14     0.58
lmp           500   250000     2.60       13     0.52
jn1           447   199809     2.24       10     0.50
cit           496   246016     2.02       10     0.41
tor           494   244036     1.21        6     0.25
ks7           495   245025     1.21        6     0.24
ray           469   219961     0.85        4     0.18
ks8           470   220900     0.64        3     0.14
cho           485   235225     0.62        3     0.13
crn           497   247009     0.60        3     0.12
eth           439   192721     0.00        0     0.00
ta6           497   247009     0.00        0     0.00
sku           493   243049     0.00        0     0.00
rvm           404   163216     0.00        0     0.00
cel           498   248004     0.00        0     0.00
ta7           499   249001     0.00        0     0.00
bs3           108    11664     0.00        0     0.00
ta9           426   181476     0.00        0     0.00

ARTISTRY SORT
         bytes    bytes^2  EfficiencArtistry Paucity
bs2           500   250000     9.60       48     1.92
pto           243    59049    18.11       44     7.45
cdl           497   247009     6.04       30     1.21
rv2           423   178929     7.09       30     1.68
ks9           500   250000     4.20       21     0.84
fwk           409   167281     4.16       17     1.02
str           150    22500    10.00       15     6.67
mud           491   241081     2.85       14     0.58
lmp           500   250000     2.60       13     0.52
hf1           379   143641     3.17       12     0.84
cit           496   246016     2.02       10     0.41
bs1           280    78400     3.57       10     1.28
jn2           321   103041     3.12       10     0.97
jn1           447   199809     2.24       10     0.50
ks7           495   245025     1.21        6     0.24
jar           201    40401     2.99        6     1.49
tor           494   244036     1.21        6     0.25
ray           469   219961     0.85        4     0.18
ks8           470   220900     0.64        3     0.14
cho           485   235225     0.62        3     0.13
crn           497   247009     0.60        3     0.12
cel           498   248004     0.00        0     0.00
bs3           108    11664     0.00        0     0.00
ta7           499   249001     0.00        0     0.00
ta9           426   181476     0.00        0     0.00
rvm           404   163216     0.00        0     0.00
sku           493   243049     0.00        0     0.00
ta6           497   247009     0.00        0     0.00
eth           439   192721     0.00        0     0.00

PAUCITY SORT
         bytes    bytes^2  EfficiencArtistry Paucity
pto           243    59049    18.11       44     7.45
str           150    22500    10.00       15     6.67
bs2           500   250000     9.60       48     1.92
rv2           423   178929     7.09       30     1.68
jar           201    40401     2.99        6     1.49
bs1           280    78400     3.57       10     1.28
cdl           497   247009     6.04       30     1.21
fwk           409   167281     4.16       17     1.02
jn2           321   103041     3.12       10     0.97
ks9           500   250000     4.20       21     0.84
hf1           379   143641     3.17       12     0.84
mud           491   241081     2.85       14     0.58
lmp           500   250000     2.60       13     0.52
jn1           447   199809     2.24       10     0.50
cit           496   246016     2.02       10     0.41
tor           494   244036     1.21        6     0.25
ks7           495   245025     1.21        6     0.24
ray           469   219961     0.85        4     0.18
ks8           470   220900     0.64        3     0.14
cho           485   235225     0.62        3     0.13
crn           497   247009     0.60        3     0.12
ta9           426   181476     0.00        0     0.00
bs3           108    11664     0.00        0     0.00
ta7           499   249001     0.00        0     0.00
ta6           497   247009     0.00        0     0.00
eth           439   192721     0.00        0     0.00
sku           493   243049     0.00        0     0.00
rvm           404   163216     0.00        0     0.00
cel           498   248004     0.00        0     0.00


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code contest #2
Date: 23 Jul 2002 18:10:55
Message: <3d3dd46e@news.povray.org>
Tom A. <tar### [at] my-dejacom> wrote:
> My one complaint with the last contest (besides not winning :-) was the
> expanded code that wasn't commented.  What's the point of putting in the
> end of lines, if the code isn't any easier to understand?

  Commenting a deeply-developed obfuscated code in such a way that it really
explains what's going on there is almost as laborious as producing the code
itself. Usually you can't explain it with one line comments.
  I personally was just too lazy to do it.

-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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