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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 6 Mar 2002 21:49:15
Message: <3c86d52b@news.povray.org>
http://10best.raytrace.com/short/shortview.html

Remember, contestants, let's keep the judging blind
(author/bytes/technique) !


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Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 04:08:32
Message: <2uae8u4gt08ej4bcdilnvh6a3kvtnje5r2@4ax.com>
On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:29:03 -0500, "Greg M. Johnson"
<"gregj;-)56590\""@aol.c;-)om> wrote:
> http://10best.raytrace.com/short/shortview.html
> Remember, contestants, let's keep the judging blind
> (author/bytes/technique) !

Some notes:

1. Since above link will be distributed over whole world and it will glory
power of pov-script then I think it could be worth to make proper html syntax.
Are you interested in help of somebody? Try to any html validator to find what
rules you break.

2. Is there something wrong with image "w42" ?

ABX


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From: Grey Knight
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 06:00:33
Message: <3C874842.C38C3F19@namtar.qub.ac.uk>

> 
> On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:29:03 -0500, "Greg M. Johnson"
> <"gregj;-)56590\""@aol.c;-)om> wrote:
> > http://10best.raytrace.com/short/shortview.html
> > Remember, contestants, let's keep the judging blind
> > (author/bytes/technique) !
> 
> Some notes:
> 
> 1. Since above link will be distributed over whole world and it will glory
> power of pov-script then I think it could be worth to make proper html syntax.
> Are you interested in help of somebody? Try to any html validator to find what
> rules you break.
In particular, I got letters about a centimetre high when I loaded up
the page!

> 2. Is there something wrong with image "w42" ?
I think it's an abstract piece on the pointlessness of existence in an
uncaring world ;)

> ABX

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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 09:04:38
Message: <3c877376$1@news.povray.org>
Okay, how's it now?


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Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 09:09:47
Message: <t3te8u8fbbtdk81fhkd3jc4e86jcou05gn@4ax.com>
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:03:26 -0500, "Greg M. Johnson" <gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom>
wrote:
> Okay, how's it now?

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2F10best.raytrace.com%2Fshort%2Fshortview.html&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline


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From: Tom A 
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 09:46:52
Message: <3C877D5D.D7ED2A08@my-deja.com>
"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> 
> http://10best.raytrace.com/short/shortview.html
> 
> Remember, contestants, let's keep the judging blind
> (author/bytes/technique) !

Wow!  having fought the 500 byte battle, all I can say is that these are
impressive.

It's going to be a tough call!



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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 09:57:28
Message: <3c877fd8$1@news.povray.org>
Well,  NOW it does better than http://povray.org and http://irtc.org.
I think many of the warnings are a bunch of crap.


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 10:17:20
Message: <3c878480@news.povray.org>
In article <3c877fd8$1@news.povray.org> , "Greg M. Johnson" 
<gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> Well,  NOW it does better than http://povray.org and http://irtc.org.
> I think many of the warnings are a bunch of crap.

No, they are all caused by one wrong tag - you are misusing the "<kbd>" tag to
get some strange style-sheet like effect that is neither standard nor works on
any of several different browsers I checked.  Try:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">


<meta http-equiv="Keywords" CONTENT="shortest code contest povray pov 3.5
ascii art images">


<TITLE>Shortest Code Contest</TITLE>

<BODY>

 <H1>Shortest Code Contest</H1>

<p><kbd>
This page contains a sneak preview of the images prepared for the Shortest
Code Contest.
<br>
These images were all created with less than 500 bytes of ASCII text using
<a href="http://povray.org">Povray 3.5</a>.
<br>
Start thinking about which are your favorite 6 images if you would like to
vote for winners.<br>
All images Copyright 2002 owner and 10best.raytrace.com project.
</kbd>

<p><kbd>

b42<a href="b42_800.JPG"><img src="b42_240.JPG"></a>
c06<a href="c06_800.JPG"><img src="c06_240.JPG"></a>
c17<a href="c17_800.JPG"><img src="c17_240.JPG"></a><br>
c42<a href="c42_800.JPG"><img src="c42_240.JPG"></a>
ks0<a href="ks0_800.JPG"><img src="ks0_240.JPG"></a>
ks1<a href="ks1_800.JPG"><img src="ks1_240.JPG"></a><br>
ks2<a href="ks2_800.JPG"><img src="ks2_240.JPG"></a>
ks3<a href="ks3_800.JPG"><img src="ks3_240.JPG"></a>
ks4<a href="ks4_800.JPG"><img src="ks4_240.JPG"></a><br>
ks5<a href="ks5_800.JPG"><img src="ks5_240.JPG"></a>
ks6<a href="ks6_800.JPG"><img src="ks6_240.JPG"></a>
ml1<a href="ml1_800.JPG"><img src="ml1_240.JPG"></a><br>
ml2<a href="ml2_800.JPG"><img src="ml2_240.JPG"></a>
ml3<a href="ml3_800.JPG"><img src="ml3_240.JPG"></a>
pdb<a href="pdb_800.JPG"><img src="pdb_240.JPG"></a><br>
pg1<a href="pg1_800.JPG"><img src="pg1_240.JPG"></a>
psq<a href="psq_800.JPG"><img src="psq_240.JPG"></a>
pto<a href="pto_800.JPG"><img src="pto_240.JPG"></a><br>
si1<a href="si1_800.JPG"><img src="si1_240.JPG"></a>
si2<a href="si2_800.JPG"><img src="si2_240.JPG"></a>
ta2<a href="ta2_800.JPG"><img src="ta2_240.JPG"></a><br>
ta3<a href="ta3_800.JPG"><img src="ta3_240.JPG"></a>
tb1<a href="tb1_800.JPG"><img src="tb1_240.JPG"></a>
tb2<a href="tb2_800.JPG"><img src="tb2_240.JPG"></a><br>
tpa<a href="tpa_800.JPG"><img src="tpa_240.JPG"></a>
w42<a href="w42_800.JPG"><img src="w42_240.JPG"></a>
wp2<a href="wp2_800.JPG"><img src="wp2_240.JPG"></a><br>
wp3<a href="wp3_800.JPG"><img src="wp3_240.JPG"></a>
wrp<a href="wrp_800.JPG"><img src="wrp_240.JPG"></a><br>

</kbd>
</BODY>

</html>


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 10:20:02
Message: <3C878522.EA2ECB32@gmx.de>
"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> 
> Well,  NOW it does better than http://povray.org and http://irtc.org.
> I think many of the warnings are a bunch of crap.

It's not mainly about the warnings, it's about consistent and valid code. 
If you know the basics about HTML it's no problem to find the few errors
without a validator in such a simple case.   The current version has no
<html> and no <head>..</head>.  Having a corresponding </p> for each <p>
would be a good idea although it's not required i think.

Christoph

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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest images up
Date: 7 Mar 2002 10:29:35
Message: <3c87875f$1@news.povray.org>
In article <3c877fd8$1@news.povray.org> , "Greg M. Johnson" 
<gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> Well,  NOW it does better than http://povray.org and http://irtc.org.

Given that both of those pages were designed many, many years ago when web
standards were not yet supported well, this is a really poor excuse.

Try it on the more "modern" pages like the news.povray.org welcome page:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.povray.org&charset=%28det
ect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline>

(The other news.povray.org pages are valid, too, but protected and thus cannot
be validated by you easily without creating a copy and uploading that.)

    Thorsten

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