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Simberon is proud to announce the release of ElastoLab 2.0. ElastoLab
is a physics playground that allows you to build scenes containing
particles, springs, elastics, barriers, and more. It then allows you to
animate the scene in real-time.
A free demo version is available for download from:
http://www.simberon.com
The commercial version costs $19.95 US and can be purchased online.
David Buck
Simberon Inc.
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"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberon com> wrote in message
news:3BDA2373.3351C211@simberon.com...
> Simberon is proud to announce the release of ElastoLab 2.0. ElastoLab
> is a physics playground that allows you to build scenes containing
> particles, springs, elastics, barriers, and more. It then allows you to
> animate the scene in real-time.
Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this basically
an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were not an
ad) should go on p.o.t.?
And setting follow-ups to divert any, perhaps, negative comments is a
little shady... if that was your intention.
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Bill DeWitt escribió:
> Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this basically
> an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were not an
> ad) should go on p.o.t.?
No, you are wrong... from the AUP:
4.We do not allow SPAM on this news server. We will allow you to
post
announcements of your POV-Ray related web page, utilities, or
programs that POV-Ray users may find useful. Advertising of
commercial products or services not related to POV-Ray or the 3D
graphics
industry is not allowed under any circumstances.
Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement? And to my
understanding, I don't think David has abused here of his historical
fame. That's an extremely paranoid accusation...
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/
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In article <3BDA7F0C.229F0DA8@ignorancia.org> , Jaime Vives Piqueres
<jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
> Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement?
I surely think it is. Would of course be really cool if there would be a
POV-Ray animation output* (or is there?).
Thorsten
[to David] If there is none yet, consider it a feature request. After all I
can run Windows apps on a Mac if I have to, and doing physics simulations is
the only application I ever used POV-Ray for seriously myself. So I am
really interested even if it would require a WinDOS app! ;-)
____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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"Jaime Vives Piqueres" wrote:
> Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement?
From the website:
"Simberon's first product, ElastoLab, lets you explore
the world of physics in a fun 2D environment."
^^
> That's an extremely paranoid accusation...
Even if Bill is wrong I don't think it's very nice of you to call it an
"extremely paranoid accusation". Especially not considering that you
apparently haven't checked the facts.
Rune
--
3D images and anims, include files, tutorials and more:
Rune's World: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated June 26)
POV-Ray Users: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayusers/
POV-Ray Webring: http://webring.povray.co.uk
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Rune escribió:
> "Simberon's first product, ElastoLab, lets you explore
> the world of physics in a fun 2D environment."
> ^^
My fault...:( I assumed from David wording that it was 3d. Wrong
assumption, I know. Then I see it is not very "3D related"... accept my
excuses for not being more rigorous.
> Even if Bill is wrong I don't think it's very nice of you to call it an
> "extremely paranoid accusation". Especially not considering that you
> apparently haven't checked the facts.
Yes, sorry again, but anyhow what I was calling paranoid is not the
doubt about the legality of the post, but the idea a "bad faith" in
David post... Also, my use of the word "paranoid" is not that serious.
All we can have paranoid moments: I myself perhaps had one of these
moments after reading Bill reply...
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/
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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
>
> In article <3BDA7F0C.229F0DA8@ignorancia.org> , Jaime Vives Piqueres
> <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
>
> > Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement?
>
> I surely think it is. Would of course be really cool if there would be a
> POV-Ray animation output* (or is there?).
If you need it, you can use Aero, which is free.
--
François DISPOT -- http://www.wozzeck.net
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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>
> Bill DeWitt escribió:
> > Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this basically
> > an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were not an
> > ad) should go on p.o.t.?
>
> No, you are wrong... from the AUP:
I can't entirely blame him, though. I felt a little spammed myself.
-Xplo
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Ditto. Can the admins delete this discussion?
--
//Mahalis
camera{location<0,0.25,-2> look_at 0.5*y} #declare T=texture{pigment{crackle
scale 0.5 rotate 90 turbulence 0.75 color_map{[0 rgb 1][0.05 rgb 1][0.1
rgb<1,0.25,1>][0.25 rgbf 1][1 rgbf 1]}} finish{ambient 1}} #declare
c=difference{torus{0.5,0.1 rotate -90*x}box{<0.7,0,0.2>,<-0.7,-0.7,-0.2>}}
merge{object{c translate<0.5,0.5,0>} object{c translate<-0.5,0.5,0>}
cylinder{<1,0.5,0>,<1,0,0>,0.1} cylinder{<-1,0.5,0>,<-1,0,0>,0.1}
cylinder{0.5*y,0,0.1} texture{T}}
--
"Xplo Eristotle" <inq### [at] unforgettablecom> wrote in message
news:3BDB13D0.E2877A05@unforgettable.com...
> Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> >
> > Bill DeWitt escribió:
> > > Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this
basically
> > > an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were
not an
> > > ad) should go on p.o.t.?
> >
> > No, you are wrong... from the AUP:
>
> I can't entirely blame him, though. I felt a little spammed myself.
>
> -Xplo
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Mahalis wrote:
>
> Ditto. Can the admins delete this discussion?
Let me check.... .....nope, not going to.
--
Ken Tyler - Admin.
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POV-Ray exists (at least in the form it is now) because of David Buck.
Such posts from a former POV-Team member of his seniority are permitted,
even if outside the AUP (note that I am not saying his post was so, just
that even if it was, it's allowed).
-- Chris
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I felt this announcement was a bit spammish, but, unlike you,
appreciated that the followup was set to off-topic.
--
Adrien Beau adr### [at] freefr http://adrien.beau.free.fr/
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"Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:3bdb3468@news.povray.org...
> POV-Ray exists (at least in the form it is now) because of David Buck.
>
> Such posts from a former POV-Team member of his seniority are permitted,
> even if outside the AUP (note that I am not saying his post was so, just
> that even if it was, it's allowed).
I see...
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
>
> "Chris Cason" <newsadmin-despam-@povray-no-spam.org> wrote in message
> news:3bdb3468@news.povray.org...
> > POV-Ray exists (at least in the form it is now) because of David Buck.
> >
> > Such posts from a former POV-Team member of his seniority are permitted,
> > even if outside the AUP (note that I am not saying his post was so, just
> > that even if it was, it's allowed).
>
> I see...
It falls under the part of the AUP where we also state -
"Except where otherwise noted these are general guidelines and we will
allow for a liberal interpretation of them"
No harm no foul.
--
Ken Tyler
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Has anyone tried Elasto? I couldn't get it to install under Win 98 SE. The
installer failed. I redownloaded and it failed the second time as well. It
seems to want to reboot before even beginning..
D.
"Adrien Beau" <adr### [at] freefr> wrote in message
news:3BDB3D30.72FAF450@free.fr...
> I felt this announcement was a bit spammish, but, unlike you,
> appreciated that the followup was set to off-topic.
>
> --
> Adrien Beau adr### [at] freefr http://adrien.beau.free.fr/
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