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From: David Buck
Subject: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 26 Oct 2001 22:59:56
Message: <3BDA2373.3351C211@simberon.com>
Simberon is proud to announce the release of ElastoLab 2.0.  ElastoLab
is a physics playground that allows you to build scenes containing
particles, springs, elastics, barriers, and more.  It then allows you to
animate the scene in real-time.

A free demo version is available for download from:

    http://www.simberon.com

The commercial version costs $19.95 US and can be purchased online.

David Buck
Simberon Inc.


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 04:50:18
Message: <3bda754a@news.povray.org>
"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message
news:3BDA2373.3351C211@simberon.com...
> Simberon is proud to announce the release of ElastoLab 2.0.  ElastoLab
> is a physics playground that allows you to build scenes containing
> particles, springs, elastics, barriers, and more.  It then allows you to
> animate the scene in real-time.

    Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this basically
an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were not an
ad) should go on p.o.t.?

    And setting follow-ups to divert any, perhaps, negative comments is a
little shady... if that was your intention.


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 05:31:43
Message: <3BDA7F0C.229F0DA8@ignorancia.org>

>     Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this basically
> an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were not an
> ad) should go on p.o.t.?

  No, you are wrong... from the AUP:

4.We do not allow SPAM on this news server. We will allow you to
post     
  announcements of your POV-Ray related web page, utilities, or
  programs that POV-Ray users may find useful. Advertising of
commercial         products or services not related to POV-Ray or the 3D
graphics
  industry is not allowed under any circumstances.

  Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement? And to my
understanding, I don't think David has abused here of his historical
fame. That's an extremely paranoid accusation...
 
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres

La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 06:03:45
Message: <3bda8681@news.povray.org>
In article <3BDA7F0C.229F0DA8@ignorancia.org> , Jaime Vives Piqueres 
<jai### [at] ignoranciaorg>  wrote:

>   Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement?

I surely think it is.  Would of course be really cool if there would be a
POV-Ray animation output* (or is there?).


    Thorsten


[to David] If there is none yet, consider it a feature request.  After all I
can run Windows apps on a Mac if I have to, and doing physics simulations is
the only application I ever used POV-Ray for seriously myself.  So I am
really interested even if it would require a WinDOS app! ;-)

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 06:15:17
Message: <3bda8935@news.povray.org>
"Jaime Vives Piqueres" wrote:
>   Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement?

From the website:

"Simberon's first product, ElastoLab, lets you explore
the world of physics in a fun 2D environment."
                              ^^

> That's an extremely paranoid accusation...

Even if Bill is wrong I don't think it's very nice of you to call it an
"extremely paranoid accusation". Especially not considering that you
apparently haven't checked the facts.

Rune
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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 07:01:46
Message: <3BDA9428.CE168EB7@ignorancia.org>

> "Simberon's first product, ElastoLab, lets you explore
> the world of physics in a fun 2D environment."
>                               ^^

  My fault...:( I assumed from David wording that it was 3d. Wrong
assumption, I know. Then I see it is not very "3D related"... accept my
excuses for not being more rigorous.

> Even if Bill is wrong I don't think it's very nice of you to call it an
> "extremely paranoid accusation". Especially not considering that you
> apparently haven't checked the facts.

  Yes, sorry again, but anyhow what I was calling paranoid is not the
doubt about the legality of the post, but the idea a "bad faith" in
David post... Also, my use of the word "paranoid" is not that serious.
All we can have paranoid moments: I myself perhaps had one of these
moments after reading Bill reply... 

--
Jaime Vives Piqueres

La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/


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From: Francois Dispot
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 14:33:01
Message: <3BDAFDDC.433E2F33@club-internet.fr>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> In article <3BDA7F0C.229F0DA8@ignorancia.org> , Jaime Vives Piqueres
> <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg>  wrote:
> 
> >   Isn't this a "3D graphics industry" related announcement?
> 
> I surely think it is.  Would of course be really cool if there would be a
> POV-Ray animation output* (or is there?).

If you need it, you can use Aero, which is free.
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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 16:05:33
Message: <3BDB13D0.E2877A05@unforgettable.com>
Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> 

> >     Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this basically
> > an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were not an
> > ad) should go on p.o.t.?
> 
>   No, you are wrong... from the AUP:

I can't entirely blame him, though. I felt a little spammed myself.

-Xplo


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From: Mahalis
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 16:54:23
Message: <3bdb1eff@news.povray.org>
Ditto. Can the admins delete this discussion?

--

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"Xplo Eristotle" <inq### [at] unforgettablecom> wrote in message
news:3BDB13D0.E2877A05@unforgettable.com...
> Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> >

> > >     Hey, I know you are David K Buck and all that, but isn't this
basically
> > > an -advertisement- for a non-povray product that at best (if it were
not an
> > > ad) should go on p.o.t.?
> >
> >   No, you are wrong... from the AUP:
>
> I can't entirely blame him, though. I felt a little spammed myself.
>
> -Xplo


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: ElastoLab 2.0 released
Date: 27 Oct 2001 17:24:59
Message: <3BDB2627.52C7B44@pacbell.net>
Mahalis wrote:
> 
> Ditto. Can the admins delete this discussion?

Let me check.... .....nope, not going to.

-- 
Ken Tyler - Admin.


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