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Hi Povers!
Now after the LINUXTAG 2000 has ended at Sunday I'll give you a summary
of our work at the POV-Ray booth at the Linuxtag.
We (Christian Perle, Jan Theofel, Manuel Moser, Martin Trautmann, and
me) prepared this event for several weeks. We made Posters, Videos,
organized Computers two Beamers several hundred Flyers ...
We have been invited to this biggest european Linux convention to be
part of the opensource pavillion where projects like Debian, XFree86,
OpenBSD and sevral others resided. The event was free to everyone to
visit. No fees at all. Many big names where there ... IBM, Compaq, hp,
Siemens, O'Reilly, Redhat, Suse ... to name a few.
There were many lectures and many new things for Linux but no time for
us.
We presented a video containing IRTC anims (thanks to Neil Alexander,
H.E.Day, Glenn McCarter and John VanSickle for allowing me to copy their
work) which 20 min long and nice to look at and sevral pics from the
IRTC, promoting the site.
We had lot's of questions asked to us (modeller for Linux, conversion
routines, scripting) and I hope we were able to give satisfying answers.
It was good to see that POV-Ray is well known and that the interest was
quite high (our booth under siege).
Christian held a small lecture about POV-Ray that also had some good
response.
We had been invited by IBM and Compaq to render animations on their
Clusters (a 4 node AS6000 and a 8 node Alpha Cluster) which we did
happily during Linuxtag. :-)
The only more or less negative feedback had been about the license. All
but one person made friendly inquiries about the license and asked why
it is not GPL or something similiar and if there is hope that it could
change someday. The one not so friendly one walked down the aisle before
our booth and pointed the thumb down. To those who know the scene I say
only three letters ..... RMS.
We also tried to sell IRTC CDROMS for Chris but had not been all too
successful, so you people who love the IRTC, please buy them.
Some pictures can be found at:
http://www.zpg.ica.uni-stuttgart.de/~marc/pics.html
There are more but I don't have them now.
Povingly,
Marc
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Marc Schimmler
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Thanks for the report, sounds like it was fun.
Could you clear up a couple of anacronyms for me?
GPL and RMS
Ta.
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:05:35 +0200, Marc Schimmler wrote:
>The one not so friendly one walked down the aisle before
>our booth and pointed the thumb down. To those who know the scene I say
>only three letters ..... RMS.
How very Roman of him. I wonder how many of his sycophants realize that
he has a Caesar complex.
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:37:38 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
>Thanks for the report, sounds like it was fun.
>
>Could you clear up a couple of anacronyms for me?
>
>GPL and RMS
General Public License
Richard M. Stallman
For explanations of both, see www.fsf.org. Then look around til you find
the other side of the story, because it's apparently not all as rosy as FSF
would have you believe.
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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Tom Melly wrote:
>
> Thanks for the report, sounds like it was fun.
>
> Could you clear up a couple of anacronyms for me?
>
> GPL and RMS
>
> Ta.
GPL - Gnu Public license ( http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html )
Well RMS ... Just look at http://www.gnu.org
He calls himself Saint IGNUcius
You find him there ... believe me :-)
Marc
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povray org> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] linuxparkerrfwicom...
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:37:38 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
> >Thanks for the report, sounds like it was fun.
> >
> >Could you clear up a couple of anacronyms for me?
> >
> >GPL and RMS
>
> General Public License
> Richard M. Stallman
>
> For explanations of both, see www.fsf.org. Then look around til you find
> the other side of the story, because it's apparently not all as rosy as
FSF
> would have you believe.
>
Well, I had a quick read, and on the surface I can't see any obvious
distinction between the pov-ray terms and gpl - what issues have got rms's
goat? The only area that seems different is that IIRC no program based on
POV can be charged for, whereas GPL allows for charging, but not
restricting.
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:03:38 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
>Well, I had a quick read, and on the surface I can't see any obvious
>distinction between the pov-ray terms and gpl - what issues have got rms's
>goat? The only area that seems different is that IIRC no program based on
>POV can be charged for, whereas GPL allows for charging, but not
>restricting.
You can't reuse POV's code in other projects. That's the one he doesn't like,
if I had to guess. Certain people are forbidden from distributing POV. There
is a limit to how much money you can charge for a copy. Certain modifications
to the source code are not allowed, even in a custom version. You need to get
the permission of the Team to distribute it in certain ways.
There are a few differences, but none that affect the average POV user too
significantly.
--
Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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Ron Parker wrote:
>
> You can't reuse POV's code in other projects. That's the one he doesn't like,
> if I had to guess. Certain people are forbidden from distributing POV. There
> is a limit to how much money you can charge for a copy. Certain modifications
> to the source code are not allowed, even in a custom version. You need to get
> the permission of the Team to distribute it in certain ways.
>
After the incident a friend made a good proposal for a license. Make it
like the
GPL but exclude the FSF and RMS from it. :-) Ave Imperator!
Marc
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Serge LAROCQUE wrote:
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> > only three letters ..... RMS.
>
> Does he still have long hair? (I never met him, only saw his photo in a book
> "Voices from the Open Source community" (IIRC))
Like at:
http://www.stallman.org/rms.jpg
Marc
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Marc Schimmler <sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:
: The only more or less negative feedback had been about the license. All
: but one person made friendly inquiries about the license and asked why
: it is not GPL or something similiar and if there is hope that it could
: change someday. The one not so friendly one walked down the aisle before
: our booth and pointed the thumb down. To those who know the scene I say
: only three letters ..... RMS.
The ideology of the Open Source Software world is in principle good. Their
fight about oppressing and dictatorshop-like companies like microsoft is
remarkable (see http://www.opensource.org/halloween/ to get an idea of this).
However, judging from the behaviour described above, their ideology has
converted into fanatism, making (at least some of) them almost as bad as
those oppressing companies themselves.
Well, we can only deduce that no matter what ideology, there will always
be fanatics.
--
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