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Hi all, Im new to Povray, and I think its great. I have a few quick Qs...
1) Are there any *cheap* digitizers out there for 3d models? I priced a few
upwards starting at $1200. Maybe someone can explain why a mouse that can
move up and down would cost $1200. (I know, they are arms, but the idea is
the same as a simple x/y coord mouse, just with a z axis) No lasers or
ultrasound please. Perhaps someone has built a homemade digitizer and might
be willing to share the info?
2) Does anyone know of some websites of animation galleries? I can't say Ive
ever seen an AVI gallery before. Id really like to see some longer length
animations.
3) And finally, can someone point me to the largest pov object collection
out there?
See, Im not much into modelling, but I do like the animation side of 3d. It
would be a really cool thing to put something really big together I think.
Is this over my head? Should i leave that to the Indutrial Light & Magics of
the world? I dont want to do Jurassic Park, but I think a minor production
would be fun and educational. Maybe something in the space genre?
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"Phead" <sco### [at] d0gz netnospam> wrote in message
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| Hi all, Im new to Povray, and I think its great. I have a few quick Qs...
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| 1) Are there any *cheap* digitizers out there for 3d models? I priced a few
| upwards starting at $1200. Maybe someone can explain why a mouse that can
| move up and down would cost $1200. (I know, they are arms, but the idea is
| the same as a simple x/y coord mouse, just with a z axis) No lasers or
| ultrasound please. Perhaps someone has built a homemade digitizer and might
| be willing to share the info?
I found this: http://www.3dscanner.com/ and they have scanners that can be
used to create 3D models for rendering programs at a price comparable to high
end 2D scanners.
Prices shown on the ordering page (not avail. until July 31, 2000):
http://www.3dscanner.com/order_form.htm
Not sure I completely understand this device or it's validity but it sure
looks good.
| 2) Does anyone know of some websites of animation galleries? I can't say Ive
| ever seen an AVI gallery before. Id really like to see some longer length
| animations.
Neither have I. They seem to be scattered around with a wide variety of
subjects and formats.
| 3) And finally, can someone point me to the largest pov object collection
| out there?
Another thing that's scattered about, POV-Ray scene and include files :-)
You'd probably do good to take a look at the links in
http://www.povray.org/links/POV-Ray_Include_Macro_and_Object_Files/
| See, Im not much into modelling, but I do like the animation side of 3d. It
| would be a really cool thing to put something really big together I think.
| Is this over my head? Should i leave that to the Indutrial Light & Magics of
| the world? I dont want to do Jurassic Park, but I think a minor production
| would be fun and educational. Maybe something in the space genre?
As do many people obviously. I think your biggest challenge could be getting
a idea storyboarded into being first and foremost. After that is the second
most difficult part, but I do wish you luck.
Bob
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In article <394b167b$1@news.povray.org> , "Phead" <sco### [at] d0gznetnospam>
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> 2) Does anyone know of some websites of animation galleries? I can't say Ive
> ever seen an AVI gallery before. Id really like to see some longer length
> animations.
Not AVI, but MPEG: The IRTC has probably one of the largest such galleries
at www.irtc.org
Thorsten
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>It
> would be a really cool thing to put something really big together I think.
> Is this over my head? Should i leave that to the Indutrial Light & Magics
of
> the world? I dont want to do Jurassic Park, but I think a minor
production
> would be fun and educational. Maybe something in the space genre?
Check out the Internet Movie Project. (Don't know the URL, but it should be
easy to find...)
Regards,
Dave
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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
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> In article <394b167b$1@news.povray.org> , "Phead" <sco### [at] d0gznetnospam>
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> > 2) Does anyone know of some websites of animation galleries? I can't say
Ive
> > ever seen an AVI gallery before. Id really like to see some longer
length
> > animations.
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> Not AVI, but MPEG: The IRTC has probably one of the largest such galleries
> at www.irtc.org
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> Thorsten
Yep, I checked it out and man...my breath was quite taken away. And the
stills absolutely rock. I truly feel like a hobbyist now :)
Thanks for the reply
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> I found this: http://www.3dscanner.com/ and they have scanners that can
be
> used to create 3D models for rendering programs at a price comparable to
high
> end 2D scanners.
> Prices shown on the ordering page (not avail. until July 31, 2000):
> http://www.3dscanner.com/order_form.htm
> Not sure I completely understand this device or it's validity but it sure
> looks good.
Ooh yeah...now thats cool. Wonder how it works though. Will have to keep an
eye on that one.
> Neither have I. They seem to be scattered around with a wide variety of
> subjects and formats.
The raytracing competition has some awesome video. Check the link at the
other reply to my original post.
> Another thing that's scattered about, POV-Ray scene and include files :-)
> You'd probably do good to take a look at the links in
> http://www.povray.org/links/POV-Ray_Include_Macro_and_Object_Files/
Maybe we should start a site for that sole purpose. Unless these things are
copywritten or something.
> | See, Im not much into modelling, but I do like the animation side of 3d.
It
> | would be a really cool thing to put something really big together I
think.
> | Is this over my head? Should i leave that to the Indutrial Light &
Magics of
> | the world? I dont want to do Jurassic Park, but I think a minor
production
> | would be fun and educational. Maybe something in the space genre?
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> As do many people obviously. I think your biggest challenge could be
getting
> a idea storyboarded into being first and foremost. After that is the
second
> most difficult part, but I do wish you luck.
>
> Bob
>
Hey thanks for the advice and replies. I did read somewhere that the first
thing to do, even in a scene, is to plan. I go in the wrong way and try
modelling first. I end up with a sphere, a plane, and sometimes a cone, all
nicely rendered. Oooh Ahhh... Maybe I need to sit down and think something
out. After all, when all else fails, plan.
:)
Thanks
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Phead wrote:
> I truly feel like a hobbyist now :)
Every time I feel like I am getting close to the work of the "Big Boys"
they go and raise their work to a new level. I am always trying to
catch up to these people. It's kind of depressing sometimes :-) :-(
--
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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Phead wrote in message <394c57dc@news.povray.org>...
>Maybe we should start a site for that sole purpose. Unless these things are
>copywritten or something.
We just had a major discussion of this here. You might want to look back a
month or so to find it.
Mark
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www.imp.org
Dave Blandston wrote:
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> >It
> > would be a really cool thing to put something really big together I think.
> > Is this over my head? Should i leave that to the Indutrial Light & Magics
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> > the world? I dont want to do Jurassic Park, but I think a minor
> production
> > would be fun and educational. Maybe something in the space genre?
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> Check out the Internet Movie Project. (Don't know the URL, but it should be
> easy to find...)
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> Regards,
> Dave
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> > Check out the Internet Movie Project. (Don't know the URL, but it should
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> > easy to find...)
Wow. Now that will be very cool. Are alot of folks here involved in this?
Ive seen still that took many hours to render - I can only imagine how long
this one will take.
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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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> Every time I feel like I am getting close to the work of the "Big Boys"
> they go and raise their work to a new level. I am always trying to
> catch up to these people. It's kind of depressing sometimes :-) :-(
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In the words of the immortal* Quentin Crisp, "Don't try to catch up with the
Jones's - drag them down to your level, it's much easier"
* given that he's just died (boo-hoo), take this how you wish.
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"big boys" is correct, most if the first place entries (for movies) from
the IRTC are done in 3dsmax.....
tom### [at] tomandluf9couk (Tom Melly) wrote in <394df0c2@news.povray.org>:
>"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>> Every time I feel like I am getting close to the work of the "Big
>> Boys" they go and raise their work to a new level. I am always trying
>> to catch up to these people. It's kind of depressing sometimes :-) :-(
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>In the words of the immortal* Quentin Crisp, "Don't try to catch up with
>the Jones's - drag them down to your level, it's much easier"
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>* given that he's just died (boo-hoo), take this how you wish.
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> | See, Im not much into modelling, but I do like the animation side of 3d.
It
> | would be a really cool thing to put something really big together I
think.
> | Is this over my head? Should i leave that to the Indutrial Light &
Magics of
> | the world? I dont want to do Jurassic Park, but I think a minor
production
> | would be fun and educational. Maybe something in the space genre?
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> As do many people obviously. I think your biggest challenge could be
getting
> a idea storyboarded into being first and foremost. After that is the
second
> most difficult part, but I do wish you luck.
>
> Bob
I am a new person in this news group but I am not new to POV. I have always
kept a vigilant watch for POV related stuff on the web but this one got by
me for a very long time. I am very interested in this project but I have not
become involved with it (yet).
http://www.imp.org/
The Internet Movie Project. A Project to create a feature length film using
POV as the renderer. They say it began as a thread in c.g.r.r and took off
from there. I saw a remark about it saying that over 200 people are
involved. The date on the web page is discouragingly long ago, but hopefully
they have not abandoned it or let it become stagnant.
Halbert
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:42:15 -0400, Halbert wrote:
>http://www.imp.org/
>The Internet Movie Project. A Project to create a feature length film using
>POV as the renderer. They say it began as a thread in c.g.r.r and took off
>from there.
Actually, I believe it started as a thread here. Some of us lay awake
nights, afraid to sleep for fear that lack of vigilance may allow that
thread to come back. :)
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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Halbert wrote:
> I am a new person in this news group but I am not new to POV. I have always
> kept a vigilant watch for POV related stuff on the web but this one got by
> me for a very long time. I am very interested in this project but I have not
> become involved with it (yet).
> http://www.imp.org/
> The Internet Movie Project. A Project to create a feature length film using
> POV as the renderer. They say it began as a thread in c.g.r.r and took off
> from there. I saw a remark about it saying that over 200 people are
> involved. The date on the web page is discouragingly long ago, but hopefully
> they have not abandoned it or let it become stagnant.
> Halbert
While not dead completely it is not moving very fast either. I am
skeptical about the member count because I think the project lost
momentum and people have become bored and lost inteterest. I am
one of the earliest members and still follow the project with
interest. Since I mainly wish to contribute modelling time, and
no real tasks have been assigned yet, I am in limbo waiting for
my time to contribute.
If you are really interested in the project become a memeber
and subscribe to the mailing list. While not as active as it
should be perhaps some new blood mixed with a little enthusiasm
will breath new life into the project.
--
Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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