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From: Steve Martin
Subject: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:39:49
Message: <38CE4171.8CAB5FA@usit.net>
Forgive me for this admittedly anal question, but I got to
wondering after reading all these "Linux is pronounced..."
threads.

How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced? Is it "PAHV-ray"
(as I've always thought of it), "PEE-OH-VEE-ray", or
something else?

Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
question for the Team?


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:45:53
Message: <38ce4291$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:41:05 -0500, Steve Martin wrote:
>Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
>question for the Team?

I don't think there is an "official" pronunciation; if there is, it wasn't told
to me during the complex, excruciatingly painful, arcane, and humiliating 
initiation ritual.  The single-syllable pronunciation seems to be winning, but 
there are a few bastions of sanity where it's pronounced as three letters.

-- 
These are my opinions.  I do NOT speak for the POV-Team.
The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
My other stuff: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:30:45
Message: <38CE4D99.B672827D@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> I don't think there is an "official" pronunciation; if there is, it wasn't told
> to me during the complex, excruciatingly painful, arcane, and humiliating
> initiation ritual.

Is that the initiation ritual where they said " Hi Ron, welcome to the
POV -Team" ?

>  The single-syllable pronunciation seems to be winning, but
> there are a few bastions of sanity where it's pronounced as three letters.

If your sanity is to prevail then you should represent it as P.O.V.-Ray.
otherwise the single-syllable pronunciation will win out.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:35:33
Message: <38ce4e35$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:32:57 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>Ron Parker wrote:
>
>> I don't think there is an "official" pronunciation; if there is, it wasn't told
>> to me during the complex, excruciatingly painful, arcane, and humiliating
>> initiation ritual.
>
>Is that the initiation ritual where they said " Hi Ron, welcome to the
>POV -Team" ?

Yeah, that's the one.  Bone-chilling, isn't it?

-- 
These are my opinions.  I do NOT speak for the POV-Team.
The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
My other stuff: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:40:59
Message: <38CE5002.1B8C27BC@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> >Is that the initiation ritual where they said " Hi Ron, welcome to the
> >POV -Team" ?
> 
> Yeah, that's the one.  Bone-chilling, isn't it?

Brrrrrr....

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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:23:39
Message: <38ce597b$1@news.povray.org>
PEE-OH-VEE-ray
PEE-OH-VEE-ray
PEE-OH-VEE-ray
PEE-OH-VEE-ray


--
Mike

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hm: mwe### [at] sciticom  www.geocities.com/mikepweber
www.geocities.com/mikepweber

"Steve Martin" <sma### [at] usitnet> wrote in message
news:38C### [at] usitnet...
> Forgive me for this admittedly anal question, but I got to
> wondering after reading all these "Linux is pronounced..."
> threads.
>
> How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced? Is it "PAHV-ray"
> (as I've always thought of it), "PEE-OH-VEE-ray", or
> something else?
>
> Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
> question for the Team?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:28:21
Message: <38CE5B1B.A6398F42@pacbell.net>
Is not.


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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:44:39
Message: <38CE5E67.4D65D727@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Mike Weber wrote:
> 
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> 
> --
> Mike
> 

The last time it looked at me it said POV.
Like a slow but strong engine ...
POV - POV - POV

:-)

Marc

-- 
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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:50:05
Message: <38ce5fad$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:30:35 -0800, Ken wrote:
>Is not.

Is too.

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The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
My other stuff: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:54:27
Message: <38CE605F.DF4C8E0C@spiritone.com>
I have always understood that "POV" was always spelled out. I've
corrected people who have pronounced it as one word. I imagine that
there are more common computing terms that are not pronounced as one
word than those that are. We say "M-B" or "Megabyte" instead of "mib"
but we do say "basic" instead of "beginners all-purose symbolic
instruction code" or whatever it stands for.

Josh

Steve Martin wrote:

> Forgive me for this admittedly anal question, but I got to
> wondering after reading all these "Linux is pronounced..."
> threads.
>
> How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced? Is it "PAHV-ray"
> (as I've always thought of it), "PEE-OH-VEE-ray", or
> something else?
>
> Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
> question for the Team?

--
Josh English
eng### [at] spiritonecom
"May your hopes, dreams, and plans not be destroyed by a few zeros."


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 12:24:10
Message: <38ce75ba@news.povray.org>
My usual method (others too I'd dare say judging by what I hear) is to say
acronyms as words rather than spelled out unless the resulting word sounds to be
nonsense or unpronounceable.  So to me POV is pahv.

Bob

"Josh English" <eng### [at] spiritonecom> wrote in message
news:38CE605F.DF4C8E0C@spiritone.com...
| I have always understood that "POV" was always spelled out. I've
| corrected people who have pronounced it as one word. I imagine that
| there are more common computing terms that are not pronounced as one
| word than those that are. We say "M-B" or "Megabyte" instead of "mib"
| but we do say "basic" instead of "beginners all-purose symbolic
| instruction code" or whatever it stands for.
|
| Josh
|
| Steve Martin wrote:
|
| > Forgive me for this admittedly anal question, but I got to
| > wondering after reading all these "Linux is pronounced..."
| > threads.
| >
| > How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced? Is it "PAHV-ray"
| > (as I've always thought of it), "PEE-OH-VEE-ray", or
| > something else?
| >
| > Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
| > question for the Team?
|
| --
| Josh English
| eng### [at] spiritonecom
| "May your hopes, dreams, and plans not be destroyed by a few zeros."
|
|


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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 13:09:55
Message: <38ce8073@news.povray.org>
PEE-OH-VEE-ray!
PEE-OH-VEE-ray!
PEE-OH-VEE-ray!

--
Mike

wk: mik### [at] pyxiscom  www.pyxis.com
hm: mwe### [at] sciticom  www.geocities.com/mikepweber
www.geocities.com/mikepweber

"Bob Hughes" <omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
news:38ce75ba@news.povray.org...
> My usual method (others too I'd dare say judging by what I hear) is to say
> acronyms as words rather than spelled out unless the resulting word sounds
to be
> nonsense or unpronounceable.  So to me POV is pahv.
>
> Bob


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:42:49
Message: <38CE9639.5CE4F403@student.kuleuven.ac.be>
No way!!!
If you *can* pronounce it as one word, why would you pronounc it as
three letters?
It says POV, not P.O.V.
So it *is* pov, not p o v.

I have spoken...

ZK

Mike Weber wrote:
> 
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray!
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray!
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray!
> 
> --
> Mike
> 
> wk: mik### [at] pyxiscom  www.pyxis.com
> hm: mwe### [at] sciticom  www.geocities.com/mikepweber
> www.geocities.com/mikepweber
> 
> "Bob Hughes" <omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
> news:38ce75ba@news.povray.org...
> > My usual method (others too I'd dare say judging by what I hear) is to say
> > acronyms as words rather than spelled out unless the resulting word sounds
> to be
> > nonsense or unpronounceable.  So to me POV is pahv.
> >
> > Bob


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From: PoD
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:43:12
Message: <38CEA993.92374238@merlin.net.au>
Mike Weber wrote:
> 
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> 

I don't think a 16 syllable pronunciation is going to take off ;^)

PoD.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:47:23
Message: <38CEA5DC.57F3224@pacbell.net>
PoD wrote:
> 
> Mike Weber wrote:
> >
> > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> >
> 
> I don't think a 16 syllable pronunciation is going to take off ;^)
> 
> PoD.

That and he makes it sound like one of Ray's body waste removal functions.

-- 
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From: Mike Weber
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:50:49
Message: <38ceb439$1@news.povray.org>
Only if its said very quickly!

--
Mike

wk: mik### [at] pyxiscom  www.pyxis.com
hm: mwe### [at] sciticom  www.geocities.com/mikepweber


"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:38C### [at] pacbellnet...
>
>
> PoD wrote:
> >
> > Mike Weber wrote:
> > >
> > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > >
> >
> > I don't think a 16 syllable pronunciation is going to take off ;^)
> >
> > PoD.
>
> That and he makes it sound like one of Ray's body waste removal functions.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:36:53
Message: <uittcsgbpk3hjqbl8gvk0cbqhudf028dkm@4ax.com>
On 14 Mar 2000 08:45:53 -0500 ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker) wrote:

>I don't think there is an "official" pronunciation; if there is, it wasn't told
>to me during the complex, excruciatingly painful, arcane, and humiliating 
>initiation ritual.

  That wooden paddle smarts a bunch, don't it! Good thing I was wearing
my Depends...

-- 
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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:47:50
Message: <qtttcs4nlmrl8mctgusj7up8sd2ro6gpiq@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:32:57 -0800 Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>If your sanity is to prevail then you should represent it as P.O.V.-Ray.
>otherwise the single-syllable pronunciation will win out.

  I wonder if someone would be willing to keep tally if we were to take
an informal vote in p.o-t, "How I think 'POV-Ray' should be pronounced".

  We've basically got two camps: Pee-Oh-Vee Ray, or Pahv Ray. People
with any other pronunciation would have to contact Ross Perot to get a
signature drive going.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:51:58
Message: <38CEFB44.9A8BBB16@pacbell.net>
Alan Kong wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:32:57 -0800 Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> 
> >If your sanity is to prevail then you should represent it as P.O.V.-Ray.
> >otherwise the single-syllable pronunciation will win out.
> 
>   I wonder if someone would be willing to keep tally if we were to take
> an informal vote in p.o-t, "How I think 'POV-Ray' should be pronounced".
> 
>   We've basically got two camps: Pee-Oh-Vee Ray, or Pahv Ray. People
> with any other pronunciation would have to contact Ross Perot to get a
> signature drive going.

Not to throw too big a wrench into your proposal but I pronounce it

POV - rhymes with grove.

I don't care what the consensus is and will always say it that way.

-- 
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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 22:45:04
Message: <38CF07AF.430F8032@peak.edu.ee>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Not to throw too big a wrench into your proposal but I pronounce it
> 
> POV - rhymes with grove.
> 
> I don't care what the consensus is and will always say it that way.
> 

The dispute is made even more pointless by the fact that POV-users are a
multi-lingual bunch. The way I would pronounce P.O.V. differs considerably from
the way an Englishman would.
For the record, I prononce it as 'POV' and there can be very little disagreement
as to how this should sound in Estonian.

Margus


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:14:23
Message: <38cf0e1f@news.povray.org>
"Margus Ramst" <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote in message
news:38CF07AF.430F8032@peak.edu.ee...
| Ken wrote:
| >
| > POV - rhymes with grove.
| >
|
| The dispute is made even more pointless by the fact that POV-users are a
| multi-lingual bunch. The way I would pronounce P.O.V. differs considerably
from
| the way an Englishman would.
| For the record, I prononce it as 'POV' and there can be very little
disagreement
| as to how this should sound in Estonian.
|
| Margus

For the English speaking group, how about pov=love then?  Is that ever said?
Sorry, you might not realize I'm being sarcastic... and I am.

Bob


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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 02:14:00
Message: <38cf3838@news.povray.org>
Steve Martin wrote in message <38C### [at] usitnet>...
>How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced

I usually don't pronounce it.

Mark


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From: Lars Luthman
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 07:04:49
Message: <38cf7c61$1@news.povray.org>
Josh English skrev i meddelandet <38CE605F.DF4C8E0C@spiritone.com>...
>We say "M-B" or "Megabyte" instead of "mib"


Where I come from, we say "meg".


--ll


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 10:35:44
Message: <38CFAD80.DEDD07A2@spiritone.com>
Good point. I hadn't thought of that. I should have used kilobytes for an
example instead.

Josh

Lars Luthman wrote:

> Josh English skrev i meddelandet <38CE605F.DF4C8E0C@spiritone.com>...
> >We say "M-B" or "Megabyte" instead of "mib"
>
> Where I come from, we say "meg".
>
> --ll

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eng### [at] spiritonecom
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From: Remco Poelstra
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:22:22
Message: <38D00DED.AB535F28@home.nl>
It's the same: I always say 'K' to kb

Josh English wrote:
> 
> Good point. I hadn't thought of that. I should have used kilobytes for an
> example instead.
> 
> Josh
> 
> Lars Luthman wrote:
> 
> > Josh English skrev i meddelandet <38CE605F.DF4C8E0C@spiritone.com>...
> > >We say "M-B" or "Megabyte" instead of "mib"
> >
> > Where I come from, we say "meg".
> >
> > --ll
> 
> --
> Josh English
> eng### [at] spiritonecom
> "May your hopes, dreams, and plans not be destroyed by a few zeros."


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From: Moon47
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 16:40:57
Message: <38CEB452.CDBC0CB@earthlink.net>
Ten times fast...

Mike Weber wrote:

> Only if its said very quickly!
>
> --
> Mike
>
> wk: mik### [at] pyxiscom  www.pyxis.com
> hm: mwe### [at] sciticom  www.geocities.com/mikepweber
>
> "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38C### [at] pacbellnet...
> >
> >
> > PoD wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike Weber wrote:
> > > >
> > > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > > PEE-OH-VEE-ray
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't think a 16 syllable pronunciation is going to take off ;^)
> > >
> > > PoD.
> >
> > That and he makes it sound like one of Ray's body waste removal functions.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> > http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Steve Martin
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 21:30:44
Message: <38D047A3.22231DAD@usit.net>
> >How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced
> 
> I usually don't pronounce it.

...then how am I supposed to extoll the program's virtues
to those who have never heard of it?

"Yeah, you should try this neat program, it makes great
3D graphics, and it's FREE! What's it called? Well,...
I can't tell you, but I can give you a URL."

Sounds kinda CIA-ish.


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 01:53:23
Message: <38D08659.EEA437AB@geocities.com>
Steve Martin wrote:

> Forgive me for this admittedly anal question, but I got to
> wondering after reading all these "Linux is pronounced..."
> threads.
>
> How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced? Is it "PAHV-ray"
> (as I've always thought of it), "PEE-OH-VEE-ray", or
> something else?
>
> Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
> question for the Team?

Hmmm. I usually say "pee oh vee ray". I feel I am using the usual
pronunciation.

Aha!
From http://mac.povray.org/ we have the following:

> NOTE: POV-Ray is usually pronounced "P. O. V. Ray", not "Pov Ray" :-)
>

There. Good enough for me.

--
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But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 02:35:03
Message: <38D08ED7.E8A902AB@ij.net>
Steve Martin wrote:

> Forgive me for this admittedly anal question, but I got to
> wondering after reading all these "Linux is pronounced..."
> threads.

> How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced? Is it "PAHV-ray"
> (as I've always thought of it), "PEE-OH-VEE-ray", or
> something else?

> Is there even an "official" pronunciation? Is this a
> question for the Team?

	POV-ray is officially pronounced Kaylaylockvaylocknickgo'go'go'.
It is a melding of Gaelic (pronounced gaulic), Hindustani and
Inuit. It may not be clear from the english spelling but it is
obvious to those of Gaelic-Hindustani-Inuit ancestry. 	

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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 02:38:11
Message: <38D08F93.1C3FA447@ij.net>
Lars Luthman wrote:
> 
> Josh English skrev i meddelandet <38CE605F.DF4C8E0C@spiritone.com>...
> >We say "M-B" or "Megabyte" instead of "mib"
> 
> Where I come from, we say "meg".

	Where I come from we say either lots or many. 

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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 02:38:48
Message: <38D08FB8.983ACE5B@ij.net>
Mark Wagner wrote:
> 
> Steve Martin wrote in message <38C### [at] usitnet>...
> >How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced
> 
> I usually don't pronounce it.

	If you have to say it, you really don't need it. 

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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 02:39:17
Message: <38D09019.EBE77A26@tiac.net>
I don't pronounce C.I.A. "SEE-ah"
and I don't pronounce U.S.A.  "US-ah"

However, I do pronounce N.A.S.A.  "NAa-SUH"
and of course P.O.V.-ray  "POV-RAY"
-- 
Phil
...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.


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From: Steve Martin
Subject: Re: How's it pronounced?
Date: 16 Mar 2000 08:29:36
Message: <38D0E210.DD3BCCA5@usit.net>
Steve Martin wrote:
> > >How is "POV-Ray" officially pronounced


Wow. Sorry I asked. <grin>


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