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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 9 Feb 2000 04:15:01
Message: <38a13015@news.povray.org>
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David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricy net> wrote:
: Coordinate system has nothing to do with physical handedness of the user. And
: everyone types with both hands AFAIK.
My response was intended to be more or less humoristic.
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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 9 Feb 2000 04:22:58
Message: <38a131f2@news.povray.org>
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I play the guitar, and as you may know, it's played so that the left hand
is at the neck; so the left hand has to do pretty more meticulous job than
the right hand.
Now, this is interesting: Usually left-handed people play the guitar in
the wrong way (ie. the right hand is at the neck). This results in either a
harder job (because the strings are reversed and you can, for example, tap
the bass strings with the thumb of your right hand) or in the need of
changing the ordering of the strings (which disables you from playing other
guitars than yours; and I think that some guitars are not designed for this
and you can't reverse the ordering of the strings).
Both of them are difficult solutions.
However, I have a friend who is left-handed but plays the guitar as
right-handed people do. He says that it's not difficult; it's just a matter
of not starting playing the guitar in the wrong way. Once you learn the
"bad" habit of playing the guitar reversed, it's very difficult to learn it
in the other way.
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On 9 Feb 2000 04:22:58 -0500, Nieminen Juha
<war### [at] punarastascstutfi> wrote:
> I play the guitar, and as you may know, it's played so that the left hand
>is at the neck; so the left hand has to do pretty more meticulous job than
>the right hand.
>
> Now, this is interesting: Usually left-handed people play the guitar in
>the wrong way (ie. the right hand is at the neck). This results in either a
>harder job (because the strings are reversed and you can, for example, tap
>the bass strings with the thumb of your right hand) or in the need of
>changing the ordering of the strings (which disables you from playing other
>guitars than yours; and I think that some guitars are not designed for this
>and you can't reverse the ordering of the strings).
> Both of them are difficult solutions.
> However, I have a friend who is left-handed but plays the guitar as
>right-handed people do. He says that it's not difficult; it's just a matter
>of not starting playing the guitar in the wrong way. Once you learn the
>"bad" habit of playing the guitar reversed, it's very difficult to learn it
>in the other way.
I play the guitar as well. I must say I have a harder time with my
right hand than with my left hand. I can play some pretty fast riffs
if I happen to lay my hands on a Fender or Ibanez (oh man!) electric
but my right hand, more precisely the fingers, fail me when I have to
do it on my nylon string. Then again, I don't use the right middle
finger much because I lost my nail when I had a gangrene. Trying to
play flamenco with a finger less is, to say the least, challenging :)
I always take my guitar with me to parties. There are other people who
play the guitar but with a single exception no one but me would carry
a guitar to a party. At one such occasion the guy who held the party
had a left-handed guitar (he was, of course, left-handed) but was too,
err, well he didn't feel very well :) so he didn't play. I wanted to
switch the strings to right-handed but he asked me not to because they
were old and could break, so I gave my guitar to another player and
took the leftie one. Naturally I got to play rhythm because solos were
out of my reach with the 'wrong' handed guitar, but simple chords
(even F#!) were quite easy to strum, and that was enough for the case.
Great lefties (correct me if I'm wrong): Paul McCartney, Jimmy
Hendrix, John McLaughlin. Anyone else?
Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700
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>[x] Right Handed
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 9 Feb 2000 18:51:52
Message: <38A1FD44.2DD2E241@faricy.net>
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Vahur Krouverk wrote:
> David Fontaine wrote:
>
> > Coordinate system has nothing to do with physical handedness of the user. And
> > everyone types with both hands AFAIK.
> >
> Well, for big number of people it would be more correct to say, that
> with both fingers ;-)
That's me! tee hee
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From: Alf Peake
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 9 Feb 2000 19:12:26
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David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
news:389F51DE.FB425880@faricy.net...
> [ ] Left Handed
> [ ] Right Handed
> What percentage of POVers are left handed?
What about us ambidext..wotever.... :))
I'm predominantly right but more comfortable using leftH for mouse, and also 30wpm
morse -
(clever stuff that, write wid RH while sending).
Alf
http://www.peake42.freeserve.co.uk/
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Alf_Peake/
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Rudolph Velthuis wrote:
>
> >[x] Right Handed
>
> --
> Rudy Velthuis
Hi Rudy!
Where have been so long. Haven't seen anything of you for a long time.
:-)
Greetings,
Marc
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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 10 Feb 2000 03:28:28
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Peter Popov <pet### [at] usanet> wrote:
: Paul McCartney
I think that he can play in either way. I remember seeing one concert in
the television where he first played the "right" way, and then he changed
the guitar and played the next song the "left" way.
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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:16:20
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> [:-)] Left Handed
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Rudolph Velthuis wrote:
>
>--
>Rudy Velthuis
>
Hoi Rudy,
long time no see.
Alles goed?
Groeten.
[x] Left Handed
[x] Right Handed
Ingo
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Right-handed for writing and playing the guitar, ambi for everything
else (and for these two with moderate success).
Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700
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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 10 Feb 2000 19:08:20
Message: <38A3532D.8D2E4D2B@tiac.net>
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>John McLaughlin.
The cover of Shakti has him playing righty but the picture
could be backwards...
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...coffee?...yes please! extra sugar,extra cream...Thank you.
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:09:17 -0500, Phil Clute <pcl### [at] tiacnet>
wrote:
>>John McLaughlin.
>
>The cover of Shakti has him playing righty but the picture
>could be backwards...
I said I might be wrong. It seems I am, for McLaughlin.
Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700
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I'm right handed.
Brendan Ryan
David Fontaine wrote:
> [ ] Left Handed
> [ ] Right Handed
> What percentage of POVers are left handed?
>
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From: Darcy Johnston
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 12 Feb 2000 00:53:37
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David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
news:389F51DE.FB425880@faricy.net...
> [ ] Left Handed
> [x] Right Handed
> What percentage of POVers are left handed?
Right handed for me.
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 17:14:38 -0600, David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote:
>[ ] Left Handed
>[ ] Right Handed
>What percentage of POVers are left handed?
Never believe someone who says 'it's only a 5 minute job'.
I don't know if you mean general every day handidness or if
you want to know which coordinate system I use when POVing.
That took more than 10 seconds, and I still don't know what
the question is yet so can't answer.
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On 9 Feb 2000 04:22:58 -0500, Nieminen Juha <war### [at] punarastascstutfi> wrote:
> I play the guitar, and as you may know, it's played so that the left hand
>is at the neck; so the left hand has to do pretty more meticulous job than
>the right hand.
>
> Now, this is interesting: Usually left-handed people play the guitar in
>the wrong way (ie. the right hand is at the neck). This results in either a
>harder job (because the strings are reversed and you can, for example, tap
>the bass strings with the thumb of your right hand) or in the need of
>changing the ordering of the strings (which disables you from playing other
>guitars than yours; and I think that some guitars are not designed for this
>and you can't reverse the ordering of the strings).
> Both of them are difficult solutions.
> However, I have a friend who is left-handed but plays the guitar as
>right-handed people do. He says that it's not difficult; it's just a matter
>of not starting playing the guitar in the wrong way. Once you learn the
>"bad" habit of playing the guitar reversed, it's very difficult to learn it
>in the other way.
Depends what kind of music you play which hand has to do the most work. For
a lot of the stuff I play the right hand has to do much more intricate work
than the left, dualing banjos for example has a blue grass type bit in it that's
really demanding for the person who's doing the picking in that section.
My guitar teacher used to say pritty much what you've said here, if a kid came
in who'd never played before but was left handed he would say that they
might as well start off the right handed way, and they'll never know the
difference.
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 00:09:43 +0100, Sigmund Kyrre Aas <as### [at] studntnuno> wrote:
>> [ ] Left Handed
>> [X] Right Handed
>
>But I do have difficulties distinguishing left from right.
>When I was getting my drivers license I got the right direction about
>50% of the time. Which is not very good, considering the choices.
I'm exactly the same. But I always know which way is North, most
of my family never get mixed up between left and right, but they
never know what direction another town is in or which direction
they're facing compas wise.
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 18 Feb 2000 18:43:07
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> ----> general every day handidness <----
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:41:10 -0600, David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote:
>> ----> general every day handidness <----
Right handed.
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: That about wraps it up I guess (was: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time)
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:56:36
Message: <38AF030B.9100B9EF@faricy.net>
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Right-handed: 26.8 57.02%
Ambidexterous: 6.0 12.77%
Left-handed: 14.2 30.21%
With a supposedly 10% left-handed general population, this would seem to
suggest that left-handed people may indeed be smarter, as so many like
to believe. Because we all know POV users are smarter than other people,
right? :-P
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: That about wraps it up I guess (was: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time)
Date: 19 Feb 2000 17:17:12
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No, it means that left handed and ambidextrous people answer more surveys.
"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> Right-handed: 26.8 57.02%
> Ambidexterous: 6.0 12.77%
> Left-handed: 14.2 30.21%
>
> With a supposedly 10% left-handed general population, this would seem to
> suggest that left-handed people may indeed be smarter, as so many like
> to believe. Because we all know POV users are smarter than other people,
> right? :-P
>
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From: Jean-Pierre & Nathia
Subject: Re: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time
Date: 19 Feb 2000 17:24:24
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Right handed
jha### [at] sprintca
David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> a écrit dans le message :
389F51DE.FB425880@faricy.net...
> [ ] Left Handed
> [ ] Right Handed
> What percentage of POVers are left handed?
>
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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: That about wraps it up I guess (was: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time)
Date: 19 Feb 2000 18:44:18
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> to believe. Because we all know POV users are smarter than other people,
> right? :-P
"You now you've been raytracing too long when you see anyone that doesn't
raytrace as a lower form of life." - someone who I can't remember the name
of
:)
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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: That about wraps it up I guess (was: SURVEY real short will take 10 seconds of your time)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:30:59
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> No, it means that left handed and ambidextrous people answer more surveys.
"Did you know that one survey represents 900 households? This creates a
disproportionate effect. In otherwords, you get Matlock instead of Ally."
IMHO Matlock is better than Ally anyway. But you get the idea :-)
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