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From: mr art
Subject: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 06:42:28
Message: <383E7213.7DF63B99@gci.net>
I just ran into something strange. While trying to
pass a color vector through a macro, the color changed!
The code is simple
#include "Colors.inc"  #include "finish.inc"
#declare CapColor=<1,0,0,0,0>;
#macro Cap(Color)
difference
	{
	union	{
		cylinder{<0,0,0>,<0,.0889,0>,.17}
		cylinder{<0,.0889,0>,<0,.1333,0>,.2}
		cylinder{0,y*.0667,.12 translate y*.1333}
		}
	pigment{ rgbft Color} //Will promote to a 5 component vector
	}
#end
camera		{ location <0,5,-5> look_at 0 angle 40 }
light_source	{ 0,White translate -z*40 rotate <30,-10,0> }
background	{ White}
object		{ Cap(CapColor) }

If I #declare CapColor= a three or four component vector, it works fine.
But as a five component vector something doesn't work so well.
Can anyone give some insight on this?


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 06:59:13
Message: <383e7611@news.povray.org>
It certainly looks like a bug. I don't know of any way of printing the
values of the vector when it has five components so I can't see what's
happening. There seems to be no way to access the 5th component of a vector
and #write doesn't work for 5-dimensional vectors for some strange reason.
  5-dimensional vectors are obviously handled differently from 4 or less
dimensinal vectors, and perhaps the bug is related to that.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 11:01:57
Message: <383eaef5@news.povray.org>
In article <383e7611@news.povray.org> , Nieminen Juha 
<war### [at] punarastascstutfi>  wrote:

>   It certainly looks like a bug. I don't know of any way of printing the
> values of the vector when it has five components so I can't see what's
> happening. There seems to be no way to access the 5th component of a vector
> and #write doesn't work for 5-dimensional vectors for some strange reason.
>   5-dimensional vectors are obviously handled differently from 4 or less
> dimensinal vectors, and perhaps the bug is related to that.

No, you can just treat it as a color:

#declare CapColor=<1,0,0,0,0>;
#macro Cap(Color)
difference
 {
 union {
  cylinder{<0,0,0>,<0,.0889,0>,.17}
  cylinder{<0,.0889,0>,<0,.1333,0>,.2}
  cylinder{0,y*.0667,.12 translate y*.1333}
  }
 pigment{ rgbft Color} //Will promote to a 5 component vector
 }
 
 #warning "Vector <"
 #warning str(Color.red,0,3)
 #warning ", "
 #warning str(Color.green,0,3)
 #warning ", "
 #warning str(Color.blue,0,3)
 #warning ", "
 #warning str(Color.filter,0,3)
 #warning ", "
 #warning str(Color.transmit,0,3)
 #warning "> "
#end
camera  { location <0,5,-5> look_at 0 angle 40 }
light_source { 0,rgb 0 translate -z*40 rotate <30,-10,0> }
background { rgb 0}
object  { Cap(CapColor) }


     Thorsten


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 11:03:09
Message: <383eaf3d@news.povray.org>
In article <383E7213.7DF63B99@gci.net> , "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:

> If I #declare CapColor= a three or four component vector, it works fine.
> But as a five component vector something doesn't work so well.
> Can anyone give some insight on this?

I can't reproduce it. My output is as expected (see my other post). Which
version of POV-Ray are you using?


    Thorsten


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 13:26:52
Message: <383ED0CB.BCDD618A@gci.net>
I have used the Official version 3.1g, the Superpatch, and UVPOV 6.1a
All with the same results.
Printing the vector information like you suggested in your other
post gave these results vector<0.000,1.875,0.000,0.000,0.000>
for the color vector <1.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000>

I am using Win98, PII 400,128meg Ram

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> In article <383E7213.7DF63B99@gci.net> , "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:
> 
> > If I #declare CapColor= a three or four component vector, it works fine.
> > But as a five component vector something doesn't work so well.
> > Can anyone give some insight on this?
> 
> I can't reproduce it. My output is as expected (see my other post). Which
> version of POV-Ray are you using?
> 
>     Thorsten


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From: mr art
Subject: more data
Date: 26 Nov 1999 13:56:58
Message: <383ED7D9.84C18138@gci.net>
Here is more data to ponder:
#declare CapColor=<1,1,0,0>; outside the macro becomes <1,1,0,0> inside
But
#declare CapColor=<1,1,0,0,0>; becomes <0,1.875,0,1.875,0> inside

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> In article <383E7213.7DF63B99@gci.net> , "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:
> 
> > If I #declare CapColor= a three or four component vector, it works fine.
> > But as a five component vector something doesn't work so well.
> > Can anyone give some insight on this?
> 
> I can't reproduce it. My output is as expected (see my other post). Which
> version of POV-Ray are you using?
> 
>     Thorsten


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: more data
Date: 26 Nov 1999 14:22:52
Message: <383EDDEB.174731B4@gci.net>
Try this for simplest code :
// #declare CapColor= <1,0,0,0,0>;
   #declare CapColor= color <1,0,0,0,0>;
#warning "Vector <" 	#warning str(CapColor.red     ,0,4)
#warning ", "		#warning str(CapColor.green   ,0,4)
#warning ", "		#warning str(CapColor.blue    ,0,4)
#warning ", "		#warning str(CapColor.filter  ,0,4)
#warning ", "		#warning str(CapColor.transmit,0,4)
#warning "> "
sphere{0,0 pigment{color 0}}// keeps the error messages away

uncomment one or the other of the #declare statements.
#declare CapColor= color <1,0,0,0,0>; gives correct results
#declare CapColor= <1,0,0,0,0>; doesn't

So the problem seems to be not in the #macro stuff at all
but in the assignment process.

"mr.art" wrote:
> 
> Here is more data to ponder:
> #declare CapColor=<1,1,0,0>; outside the macro becomes <1,1,0,0> inside
> But
> #declare CapColor=<1,1,0,0,0>; becomes <0,1.875,0,1.875,0> inside


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: more data
Date: 26 Nov 1999 16:41:01
Message: <383efe6d@news.povray.org>
In article <383EDDEB.174731B4@gci.net> , "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:

> So the problem seems to be not in the #macro stuff at all
> but in the assignment process.

Yes, I can now verify your problem. It is a bug in the source code. A
detailed bug report has been posted to povray.bugreports.


     Thorsten


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: more data
Date: 26 Nov 1999 17:31:33
Message: <383F0A25.7E61D666@gci.net>
Thank you. I know that the easy workaround
is to use the keyword color in front of the vector.
But if someone had tried to 5d vectors for another
use, it could mess them up some. So, once again,
thank you.

Mr. Art

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> In article <383EDDEB.174731B4@gci.net> , "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:
> 
> > So the problem seems to be not in the #macro stuff at all
> > but in the assignment process.
> 
> Yes, I can now verify your problem. It is a bug in the source code. A
> detailed bug report has been posted to povray.bugreports.
> 
>      Thorsten
> 
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich
> e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
> 
> I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: more data
Date: 26 Nov 1999 18:23:16
Message: <5f5u3ssmp8f370e8qi7to6rsl0ua1u5ff1@4ax.com>
On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:40:53 -0600, "Thorsten Froehlich"
<tho### [at] trfde> wrote:

>Yes, I can now verify your problem. It is a bug in the source code. A
>detailed bug report has been posted to povray.bugreports.

  Thank you for posting the fix, Thorsten.

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From: Chris Colefax
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 20:41:51
Message: <383f36df@news.povray.org>
mr.art <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:
> I just ran into something strange. While trying to
> pass a color vector through a macro, the color changed!
> The code is simple
[snip]
> If I #declare CapColor= a three or four component vector, it works
fine.
> But as a five component vector something doesn't work so well.
> Can anyone give some insight on this?

I think that second-last sentence is the clue: you don't actually want a
5-component vector, you want a colour.  Therefore, if you declare your
CapColor as a colour variable, eg: #declare CapColor = rgbft <1, 0, 0,
0, 0>; you should find that everything works as expected.


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From: Chris Colefax
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 26 Nov 1999 20:41:54
Message: <383f36e2@news.povray.org>
Nieminen Juha <war### [at] punarastascstutfi> wrote:
>   It certainly looks like a bug. I don't know of any way of printing
the
> values of the vector when it has five components so I can't see what's
> happening. There seems to be no way to access the 5th component of a
vector
> and #write doesn't work for 5-dimensional vectors for some strange
reason.
>   5-dimensional vectors are obviously handled differently from 4 or
less
> dimensinal vectors, and perhaps the bug is related to that.

If the variable you want to pass is declared as a colour then everything
behaves as expected.  Taking into account other seemingly 'strange'
behaviour (eg. what happens when you specify checker colours without
commas, or try certain colour arithmetic) I don't think I'd classify
this as a bug.  Declaring a variable as a colour (using the color
prefix, or rgbft, etc.) also allows you to correctly access the filter
and transmit components using dot notation (although colours are not
supported by the #write function).


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 29 Nov 1999 10:11:23
Message: <3842979b@news.povray.org>
Does this mean that when povray expects a vector and it finds a 5-dimensional
one, it promotes it to a 4-dimensional vector?

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 29 Nov 1999 11:42:04
Message: <3842ACC3.D70701F8@gci.net>
Well,
#declare Test=<0,0,0,0,0>;
#declare Test=<0,0,0,0>;
generates: error: Attempted to redefine colour identifier as 4d-vector
identifier.

But,
#declare Test=<0,0,0,0,0>;
#declare TestPig=pigment{rgb Test}
generates no error. My assumption is it discards what it doesn't need.
Nieminen Juha wrote:
> 
>   Does this mean that when povray expects a vector and it finds a 5-dimensional
> one, it promotes it to a 4-dimensional vector?
> 
> --
> main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
> ):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 29 Nov 1999 19:46:48
Message: <38431e78@news.povray.org>
In article <3842979b@news.povray.org> , Nieminen Juha 
<war### [at] punarastascstutfi>  wrote:

>   Does this mean that when povray expects a vector and it finds a
5-dimensional
> one, it promotes it to a 4-dimensional vector?

No, it tries to use memcpy to convert an array of doubles to an array of
floats ... look at the report posted in povray.bugreports and the source of
this strange error will be obvious. Fortunately it doesn't copy more bytes,
but less!


    Thorsten


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Color Passing in #macro
Date: 29 Nov 1999 19:49:43
Message: <38431f27@news.povray.org>
In article <3842ACC3.D70701F8@gci.net> , "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote:

> #declare Test=<0,0,0,0,0>;
> #declare TestPig=pigment{rgb Test}
> generates no error. My assumption is it discards what it doesn't need.

Nope, the error is very obsure from a non-programmer perspective.
In short it copies only some parts of the vector.


    Thorsten


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