I've made a sketch of how the form for the POV-Ray User-Base could look
like. I would like to hear all you opinions and thoughts about it.

http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayuserbase/preview.htm

I don't know if I should combine the fields "yourself", "your family",
"job/education", and "hobbies" or if I should let them stay as separate
fields.

The same for "Your relation to POV-Ray", and "Your relation to the POV-Ray
society". Should I combine them?

I still haven't heard from anybody who can program cgi. Is there anybody who
can? Without some kind of automation I will have to see if I can manage to
run the User-Base manually, but that will limit the possibilities of a lot.

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:27:49 +0200, "Rune S. Johansen" <run### [at] inamecom>
wrote:

>I've made a sketch of how the form for the POV-Ray User-Base could look
>like. I would like to hear all you opinions and thoughts about it.
>

Rune,

It's a big questionnaire and many people don't much like filling them in.  It would
perhaps be better if you marked the essential fields with an asterisk.

Some suggested modifications;
Use "Location"  instead of "Destination" as a heading.
also
"Write the possible state you live in."  would be better written as:- "Give State if
relevant"

David




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"Sketch" eh?  Ok, if you say so.
It's mighty fine.  Wish I had some cgi experience besides attempting
to use the usual guestbook, form mail, etc. kind of stuff.
The detailed questionaire is lengthy but it helps to bring out the
various things which otherwise might not be said.  Definately
automation is needed, the potential database you'd end up with
wouldn't be good to manipulate.
Check this place out for cgi scripts:  http://www.scriptsearch.com/

Bob

David Wilkinson <dav### [at] cwcomnet> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:27:49 +0200, "Rune S. Johansen"
<run### [at] inamecom> wrote:
>
> >I've made a sketch of how the form for the POV-Ray User-Base could
look
> >like. I would like to hear all you opinions and thoughts about it.
> >
>
> Rune,
>
> It's a big questionnaire and many people don't much like filling
them in.  It would
> perhaps be better if you marked the essential fields with an
asterisk.
>
> Some suggested modifications;
> Use "Location"  instead of "Destination" as a heading.
> also
> "Write the possible state you live in."  would be better written
as:- "Give State if
> relevant"
>
> David
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.hamiltonite.mcmail.com
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Rune S. Johansen <run### [at] inamecom> wrote:
: I still haven't heard from anybody who can program cgi. Is there anybody who
: can? Without some kind of automation I will have to see if I can manage to
: run the User-Base manually, but that will limit the possibilities of a lot.

  I can make a cgi-script if it will be run in a UNIX platform (ie. with
/bin/sh and perl available). It's so much easier to parse the information
with perl and other unix tools that I'm not willing to do it with C/C++.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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#friendly_sarcasm_on

You ask for our position in degrees and minutes. Why not just automatically
uplink the data from each of our personal GPS implants??

#friendly_sarcasm_off

I think that Bob H computed it for us somehow......

Rune S. Johansen wrote:

> I've made a sketch of how the form for the POV-Ray User-Base could look
> like. I would like to hear all you opinions and thoughts about it.
>
> http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayuserbase/preview.htm
>
> I don't know if I should combine the fields "yourself", "your family",
> "job/education", and "hobbies" or if I should let them stay as separate
> fields.
>
> The same for "Your relation to POV-Ray", and "Your relation to the POV-Ray
> society". Should I combine them?
>
> I still haven't heard from anybody who can program cgi. Is there anybody who
> can? Without some kind of automation I will have to see if I can manage to
> run the User-Base manually, but that will limit the possibilities of a lot.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune S. Johansen
>
> ---
> Visit The RSJ Website at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
> The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
> miscellaneous other things, and a lot of fun!

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I like it. I seems ok. It would be nice if it could be redesigned a bit,
with smaller, neater text and more attractive colors. I also suggest that
you develop a special interface for the info. when people look at it. I'm
also glad you chose the name I suggested. =)

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David Wilkinson wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:27:49 +0200, "Rune S. Johansen"
<run### [at] inamecom> wrote:
>
>>I've made a sketch of how the form for the POV-Ray User-Base could look
>>like. I would like to hear all you opinions and thoughts about it.
>>
>
>Rune,
>
>It's a big questionnaire and many people don't much like filling them in.
It would
>perhaps be better if you marked the essential fields with an asterisk.

Done. But I must point out that people who don't like to fill in information
about themselves shouldn't register to the POV-Ray User-Base. The whole idea
is that they *should* fill in information. At least some amount.

>Some suggested modifications;
>Use "Location"  instead of "Destination" as a heading.
>also
>"Write the possible state you live in."  would be better written as:- "Give
State if
>relevant"

Done.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

---
Visit The RSJ Website at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
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Nieminen Juha wrote:
>Rune S. Johansen <run### [at] inamecom> wrote:
>: I still haven't heard from anybody who can program cgi. Is there anybody
who
>: can? Without some kind of automation I will have to see if I can manage
to
>: run the User-Base manually, but that will limit the possibilities of a
lot.
>
>  I can make a cgi-script if it will be run in a UNIX platform (ie. with
>/bin/sh and perl available). It's so much easier to parse the information
>with perl and other unix tools that I'm not willing to do it with C/C++.

That sounds really great!

I know close to nothing about this, but I guess that we now just have to
find a kind person with his own UNIX server who will provide a little space
and computer power for a cgi script. Is that right? Will anybody?

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

---
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TonyB wrote:
>I like it. I seems ok. It would be nice if it could be redesigned a bit,
>with smaller, neater text and more attractive colors. I also suggest that
>you develop a special interface for the info. when people look at it. I'm
>also glad you chose the name I suggested. =)

Thanks for the suggestions!

I've tried to follow them. Have a look at it. If it isn't what you thought
of you must provide me with some more details :-)

The url is still http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayuserbase/preview.htm

BTW, I found out it didn't work with Netscape before. It should work now.

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

---
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for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
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Don't know if it's a problem at this end or not.  No web page shows up in
Netscape or Internet Explorer as of this posting time.

Bob

Rune S. Johansen <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
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>
> TonyB wrote:
> >I like it. I seems ok. It would be nice if it could be redesigned a bit,
> >with smaller, neater text and more attractive colors. I also suggest that
> >you develop a special interface for the info. when people look at it. I'm
> >also glad you chose the name I suggested. =)
>
> Thanks for the suggestions!
>
> I've tried to follow them. Have a look at it. If it isn't what you thought
> of you must provide me with some more details :-)
>
> The url is still http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayuserbase/preview.htm
>
> BTW, I found out it didn't work with Netscape before. It should work now.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune S. Johansen
>
> ---
> Visit The RSJ Website at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
> The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
> miscellaneous other things, and a lot of fun!
>
>
>

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Much better colors. I like pastels. =) Hey, have you noticed that
"undercore" should be "underScore" and that etcetera is eTc not eCt?

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I'm able to see it.  Beautiful web page form.  If anyone can't enter into
that okay the IQ police should be called  ; )
Although, there may be the question of language barriers.  Oh! And how about
that as a part too?  Seems to be skipped over and you know how people
discuss the various languages...
Wonder what else might be potentially pertinent.  Anyone have thoughts on
that?  Of course it's all up to you, Rune, as far as content goes.

Bob

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I could translate it to spanish. BTW, I'm in the POV-Ray Documentation
Translation Project. =) (Haven't actually gotten much translated...)

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I would think that to be not an easy task.  However, aren't there
translation programs capable of handling it okay, at least for the most
part?

Bob

TonyB <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote in message
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> I could translate it to spanish. BTW, I'm in the POV-Ray Documentation
> Translation Project. =) (Haven't actually gotten much translated...)
>
>

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I don't think so...

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Bob Hughes wrote:
>I'm able to see it.  Beautiful web page form.  If anyone can't enter into
>that okay the IQ police should be called  ; )
>Although, there may be the question of language barriers.  Oh! And how
about
>that as a part too?  Seems to be skipped over and you know how people
>discuss the various languages...

Sounds like a good idea. Any suggestions on how it concrete could be put in
the form?

>Wonder what else might be potentially pertinent.  Anyone have thoughts on
>that?

Somebody suggested that one could put a photo of oneself there. I wonder how
that could be done? I can't think of any other way than that the user writes
a link to an image he has already uploaded on the net. There would of course
need to be some limitations in size etc...

Keep the suggestions coming!

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

---
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I was thinking of only a "Native / Spoken Language" part to the form, simple
enough to just add that as a question I guess.
The photo idea would be good to add as a link from peoples own web spaces
you are right (hmm, photo of the place they live too.... hmmm, enironment is
a large part of peoples existence), that wouldn't cause too much difficulty
I would think.  And yes, even though on their space, don't think everyone
would care to get 8x10's of other people, just wallet sized is enough  to
see them.  On AOL in a computing chat room there a person set up a web page
that the regular participants could submit their picture to.  It makes the
people seem more real.  The photos varied a bit in size and shape but I
think they were all confined to a certain maximum with each being no more
than around 150w by 200h I'd guess.

Bob

Rune S. Johansen <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
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> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >I'm able to see it.  Beautiful web page form.  If anyone can't enter into
> >that okay the IQ police should be called  ; )
> >Although, there may be the question of language barriers.  Oh! And how
> about
> >that as a part too?  Seems to be skipped over and you know how people
> >discuss the various languages...
>
> Sounds like a good idea. Any suggestions on how it concrete could be put
in
> the form?
>
> >Wonder what else might be potentially pertinent.  Anyone have thoughts on
> >that?
>
> Somebody suggested that one could put a photo of oneself there. I wonder
how
> that could be done? I can't think of any other way than that the user
writes
> a link to an image he has already uploaded on the net. There would of
course
> need to be some limitations in size etc...
>
> Keep the suggestions coming!
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune S. Johansen
>
> ---
> Visit The RSJ Website at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
> The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
> miscellaneous other things, and a lot of fun!
>
>
>

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Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of only a "Native / Spoken Language" part to the form, simple
> enough to just add that as a question I guess.
> The photo idea would be good to add as a link from peoples own web spaces
> you are right (hmm, photo of the place they live too.... hmmm, enironment is
> a large part of peoples existence), that wouldn't cause too much difficulty
> I would think.  And yes, even though on their space, don't think everyone
> would care to get 8x10's of other people, just wallet sized is enough  to
> see them.  On AOL in a computing chat room there a person set up a web page
> that the regular participants could submit their picture to.  It makes the
> people seem more real.  The photos varied a bit in size and shape but I
> think they were all confined to a certain maximum with each being no more
> than around 150w by 200h I'd guess.
> 
> Bob

 I think there are still many tight wads out there, such as myself,
who own neither a scanner or a digital camera so this suggestion
falls on deaf ears. Besides I don't think the internet or it's
patrons are quite ready for my magnificant form.

-- 
Ken Tyler
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On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:18:13 -0700, Ken wrote:

> I think there are still many tight wads out there, such as myself,
>who own neither a scanner or a digital camera so this suggestion
>falls on deaf ears. 

So render it.  How hard can it be to model a brain in a vat?

>Besides I don't think the internet or it's
>patrons are quite ready for my magnificant form.

We got used to your news postings, didn't we? :)

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Hmmm,  ever seen that old Star Trek show with the dazzling lights in a box
and a blind woman with a sensor web for a dress? Heh-heh, no, I'm not
thinking Ken might be the woman, he couldn't be that strange if he uses
POV-Ray.
Anyway... the thing (sentient lifeform of some sort of high intelligence)
wasn't viewable with the human eye or else insanity was brought on in the
viewer.

Bob

Ron Parker <par### [at] fwicom> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:18:13 -0700, Ken wrote:
>
> > I think there are still many tight wads out there, such as myself,
> >who own neither a scanner or a digital camera so this suggestion
> >falls on deaf ears.
>
> So render it.  How hard can it be to model a brain in a vat?
>
> >Besides I don't think the internet or it's
> >patrons are quite ready for my magnificant form.
>
> We got used to your news postings, didn't we? :)

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Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> Hmmm,  ever seen that old Star Trek show with the dazzling lights in a box
> and a blind woman with a sensor web for a dress? Heh-heh, no, I'm not
> thinking Ken might be the woman, he couldn't be that strange if he uses
> POV-Ray.
> Anyway... the thing (sentient lifeform of some sort of high intelligence)
> wasn't viewable with the human eye or else insanity was brought on in the
> viewer.
> 
> Bob

Can you say Vorlon ?

-- 
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Egad! (see, I can only say: "egad!")

Bob

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
>
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm,  ever seen that old Star Trek show with the dazzling lights in a
box
> > and a blind woman with a sensor web for a dress? Heh-heh, no, I'm not
> > thinking Ken might be the woman, he couldn't be that strange if he uses
> > POV-Ray.
> > Anyway... the thing (sentient lifeform of some sort of high
intelligence)
> > wasn't viewable with the human eye or else insanity was brought on in
the
> > viewer.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Can you say Vorlon ?
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html

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