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Wow I've heard so many great rumors!! When's it supposed to come out,
anyhoo?
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Larry Fontaine wrote:
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> Wow I've heard so many great rumors!! When's it supposed to come out,
> anyhoo?
The POV-Team learned a long time ago not to give release dates becuase
people bug the heck out of them. When it is ready it will be released
and not before then.
--
Ken Tyler
See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
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And to add to what Ken said, it'll probably first show up as a beta.
There's no compuserve forum anymore so i would think they might go public
with the first one. I would also guess it'll be out around January, just
because that would be a cool time to do it. :)
Signed,
The rumor mill
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I hope they will not follow the trend of software versioning and be
calling it "POV-Ray 2000".
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> I hope they will not follow the trend of software versioning and be
> calling it "POV-Ray 2000".
Surely not. I'm certain it will be called POV2K.
signed,
the rumor mill
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Oh, please, it will obviously be called: POV-Ray: Millenium Edition.
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:13:36 -0400, TonyB wrote:
>Oh, please, it will obviously be called: POV-Ray: Millenium Edition.
Nah, it'd be spelled right. :)
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>Nah, it'd be spelled right. :)
Stupid spanish... aargh! It really messed me up. I'm having serious trouble
getting ready for my SAT because of it. I don't know any of the terminology
in english. I just learned what a _mean_ is in mathematics. I feel stupid,
and I know I'm not.
POV-Ray: Millennium Edition (or POV-Ray 2001, a trace odyssey)
PS: Sorry, I couldn't help myself. =)
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In article <37e1eadb@news.povray.org> , Nieminen Juha <war### [at] cc tutfi>
wrote:
> I hope they will not follow the trend of software versioning and be
> calling it "POV-Ray 2000".
Or POV-Ray 2001 ;-)
Thorsten
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In article <37e280e6@news.povray.org> , "TonyB"
<ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:
> Stupid spanish... aargh! It really messed me up. I'm having serious trouble
> getting ready for my SAT because of it. I don't know any of the terminology
> in english. I just learned what a _mean_ is in mathematics. I feel stupid,
> and I know I'm not.
I had the same problem when I applied to US universities (all required the
SAT). You want to apply to a US university, too?
Knowing math well didn't help, especially with the lots of different terms.
I also had problems with the different types of triangles - it is really
_hard_ to answer if you simply don't understand the question :-( But don't
worry, if the first time doesn't work out that well, take it again :-)
Thorsten
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TonyB <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:
> >Nah, it'd be spelled right. :)
>
> Stupid spanish... aargh! It really messed me up. I'm having serious
trouble
> getting ready for my SAT because of it. I don't know any of the
terminology
> in english. I just learned what a _mean_ is in mathematics. I feel stupid,
> and I know I'm not.
<snip...>
Quite interesting!
I always thought "millennium" to be Latin
and Spanish to be closer to this language than English!
Gerald
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Although spanish has a closer relationship to latin, it was greatly
influenced by the arabs. Words like alcohol, zanahoria, almohada, and many
more come from arabic roots. Another thing to consider is the fact that most
latin-based words in english, like millennium, Pegasus, equilibrium, and all
that suffer a transformation in spanish. The previous examples become:
milenio, Pegaso, and equilibrio. Do you notice what happens to -us and -um?
I hope that explains things for you. =)
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>I had the same problem when I applied to US universities (all required the
>SAT). You want to apply to a US university, too?
Yes, Florida State University. My father has a pre-paid program with them.
>I also had problems with the different types of triangles - it is really
>_hard_ to answer if you simply don't understand the question :-(
I know what you mean. I (literally) cried when I finished the practice test.
I performed horribly. I'm quite worried.
>...if the first time doesn't work out that well, take it again :-)
Yes, that has been proposed as an option. Another option is to pay $300
(!!!) for a course that prepares you for the test. My dad seems willing to
pay. I don't want him to have to do that, so I'm going to read the
dictionary from top to bottom to make sure I know all the terms I'll need.
(I've actually started, I'm almost done with 'A'). The test will be given on
December 4th, so please pray for me to come out well. Thanks in advance.
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Well, thats's really been enlightening.
Thanks for the answer.
Gerald
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How about "POV-Ray for Applications"?
rc
Nieminen Juha <war### [at] cctutfi> wrote in message
news:37e1eadb@news.povray.org...
> I hope they will not follow the trend of software versioning and be
> calling it "POV-Ray 2000".
>
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Mike wrote:
> Surely not. I'm certain it will be called POV2K.
p2k
-- Ken Tyler
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Hace tres años que estudié español en la colegia. ¿Quiero hacer mi tarea?
TonyB wrote:
> >Nah, it'd be spelled right. :)
>
> Stupid spanish... aargh! It really messed me up. I'm having serious trouble
> getting ready for my SAT because of it. I don't know any of the terminology
> in english. I just learned what a _mean_ is in mathematics. I feel stupid,
> and I know I'm not.
>
> POV-Ray: Millennium Edition (or POV-Ray 2001, a trace odyssey)
>
> PS: Sorry, I couldn't help myself. =)
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There's always the possibility of it being version 3.1z too : ) or
just 3.1h maybe.
With all this speculation hope it doesn't lead to a big let down New
Years Day.
Forever the optimist,
Bob
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:37E321EF.BEA42E3E@pacbell.net...
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>
> Mike wrote:
>
> > Surely not. I'm certain it will be called POV2K.
>
> p2k
>
> -- Ken Tyler
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Bob Hughes wrote:
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> There's always the possibility of it being version 3.1z too : ) or
> just 3.1h maybe.
> With all this speculation hope it doesn't lead to a big let down New
> Years Day.
What about :
POV-Ray 3.49999999999999...
(pentium optimised, of course !)
Fabien.
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Rejected ideas:
POV-Ray NOW!
POV*
POV-Ray 1900
ROV-Pay (Rays of vision with plugin SDK)
signed,
the rumor mill
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>Hace tres años que estudié español en la colegia. ¿Quiero hacer mi tarea?
Sí. Creo que querrás repasar lo estudiado en "el colegio".
(Yes. I think you'll want to review what you studied in "school".)
PS: Do you get to practice your spanish? How often and with whom?
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Now I'm confused. Did I say I studied it for three years, because if I did, I
meant to say I've been studying it for three years. I'm taking it right now.
TonyB wrote:
> >Hace tres años que estudié español en la colegia. ¿Quiero hacer mi tarea?
>
> Sí. Creo que querrás repasar lo estudiado en "el colegio".
>
> (Yes. I think you'll want to review what you studied in "school".)
>
> PS: Do you get to practice your spanish? How often and with whom?
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>Now I'm confused. Did I say I studied it for three years, because if I did,
I
>meant to say I've been studying it for three years. I'm taking it right
now.
No. What you said was that you studied it three years ago. What you meant to
say was: He estado estudiando español en la escuela (el colegio) por tres
años. [I have been studying spanish at school for three years.]
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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> There's always the possibility of it being version 3.1z too : ) or
> just 3.1h maybe.
> With all this speculation hope it doesn't lead to a big let down New
> Years Day.
>
> Forever the optimist,
> Bob
>
<snip...>
No!!!
Due to the revolutionary features of the new version the POV-team
announces the version number will be reset:
POV-Ray MAX 1.0
;)
Gerald
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What does it mean if I say "Hace tres años que estudiaba español en el colegio"?
TonyB wrote:
> >Now I'm confused. Did I say I studied it for three years, because if I did,
> I
> >meant to say I've been studying it for three years. I'm taking it right
> now.
>
> No. What you said was that you studied it three years ago. What you meant to
> say was: He estado estudiando español en la escuela (el colegio) por tres
> años. [I have been studying spanish at school for three years.]
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Larry Fontaine wrote:
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> What does it mean if I say "Hace tres años que estudiaba español en el colegio"?
Alta Vista say's "Three years ago it studied Spanish in the school"
Ken say's "This conversation should go to P.O.T. or to private email."
--
Ken Tyler
See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
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This is getting scary.....
Now I don't know who to believe anymore ; D
Bob
Gerald K. Dobiasovsky <ger### [at] aonat> wrote in message
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>
> No!!!
> Due to the revolutionary features of the new version the POV-team
> announces the version number will be reset:
>
> POV-Ray MAX 1.0
>
> ;)
> Gerald
>
>
>
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In article <37e2e636@news.povray.org> , "TonyB"
<ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote:
> I know what you mean. I (literally) cried when I finished the practice test.
> I performed horribly. I'm quite worried.
Don't worry! If you get a bit over 500 in the verbal section but have a
strong math score it should be no problem if you apply for a technical
program. If English is not your native language (in school) they are a bit
relaxed with it. Good luck!
Thorsten
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On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:51:33 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>
>
>Larry Fontaine wrote:
>>
>> What does it mean if I say "Hace tres años que estudiaba español en el colegio"?
>
>Alta Vista say's "Three years ago it studied Spanish in the school"
>
>Ken say's "This conversation should go to P.O.T. or to private email."
Nous avons un bon discussion ici! Pas allons en pot.
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http://www.hamiltonite.mcmail.com
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Yikes! What if they need to re-reset the version number? Would it be POV-Ray
MAX MAX or POV-Ray MAX+ ?
Brendan Ryan
"Gerald K. Dobiasovsky" wrote:
> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> > There's always the possibility of it being version 3.1z too : ) or
> > just 3.1h maybe.
> > With all this speculation hope it doesn't lead to a big let down New
> > Years Day.
> >
> > Forever the optimist,
> > Bob
> >
> <snip...>
>
> No!!!
> Due to the revolutionary features of the new version the POV-team
> announces the version number will be reset:
>
> POV-Ray MAX 1.0
>
> ;)
> Gerald
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"Gerald K. Dobiasovsky" wrote:
> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> > There's always the possibility of it being version 3.1z too : ) or
> > just 3.1h maybe.
> > With all this speculation hope it doesn't lead to a big let down New
> > Years Day.
> >
> > Forever the optimist,
> > Bob
> >
> <snip...>
>
> No!!!
> Due to the revolutionary features of the new version the POV-team
> announces the version number will be reset:
>
> POV-Ray MAX 1.0
>
> ;)
> Gerald
No no no.
It's going to be "POV-Ray++"
Unless they go with that Microsoft scheme, and then it will be "Visual PR++
6.0"
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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Larry Fontaine <lfo### [at] isdnet> wrote:
: What does it mean if I say "Hace tres años que estudiaba español en el colegio"?
It means something like "I studied Spanish three years ago in the school"
or perhaps "it has been three years since I have studied Spanish in the
school".
I would use "estudié" instead of "estudiaba" if this is what you mean.
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Do you want to hear something _really_ scary?
Microsoft POV-Ray 2000.
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Horror topic par excellence!
Margus
Nieminen Juha wrote:
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> Do you want to hear something _really_ scary?
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> Microsoft POV-Ray 2000.
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This moved to .off-topic
And we've been over 'estudié'. It makes is sound like you studied spanish
three years ago, not that you started three years ago and are still doing
it.
PS: It's not your fault, it's not anyone's fault. Verbs in spanish are very
dificult.
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>dificult.
Stupid double letters! Aaargh! Must kick wall... ooooowwwweee!
>difficult.
I'll go see the doctor now... foot is really hurting.... oowww...
gotcha... ;)
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Not to worry. Wouldn't come out until 2002 anyway.
Nieminen Juha wrote:
> Do you want to hear something _really_ scary?
>
> Microsoft POV-Ray 2000.
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> Do you want to hear something _really_ scary?
>
> Microsoft POV-Ray 2000.
Then I suppose they'd intentionally plant a "bug" that makes it crash if your
scenes aren't made with a Microsoft modeller.
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On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:23:43 -0500, "Thorsten Froehlich"
<tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>Don't worry! If you get a bit over 500 in the verbal section but have a
>strong math score it should be no problem if you apply for a technical
>program. If English is not your native language (in school) they are a bit
>relaxed with it. Good luck!
Are you sure about that "bit over 500" issue? AFAIR the average score
my classmates had was around 740 and they were quite unhappy with it
(except the gal that had 800 on verbal to the amaze of our beloved
English teacher :) ) I mean, what you're saying sets the SAT score
required at about 1200-1300. Isn't this too low?
Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700
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>Then I suppose they'd intentionally plant a "bug" that makes it crash if
your
>scenes aren't made with a Microsoft modeller.
M(S)ORAY?
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In article <mIHkN6UTRhVbutzvsFk2gjJecSiW@4ax.com> , Peter Popov
<pet### [at] usanet> wrote:
> Are you sure about that "bit over 500" issue? AFAIR the average score
> my classmates had was around 740 and they were quite unhappy with it
> (except the gal that had 800 on verbal to the amaze of our beloved
> English teacher :) ) I mean, what you're saying sets the SAT score
> required at about 1200-1300. Isn't this too low?
For international students it doesn't seem to depend so much on the SAT
verbal score anyway (but you better get near 800 in the math part), at least
if you are up for a technical degree (like computer science), but I don't
know what if required for humanities. You may also want to take some SAT II
subject tests. If your school system is much different from that in the US
(like it is in my case in Germany), your high-school grades may also be
evaluated differently (meaning you get credit for them). Make at least sure
you have (certified) translations of your past few years in school. The
material/statistics universities have on their websites obviously account
for the majority of students who are of course native English speakers!
Do you also need/did you to take the TOEFL? If you get over 600 there it is
not a problem even for the well known universities.
And remember that a high SAT score is _not_ everything, your academic
history (meaning past grades, etc) and the other parts of your application
seem to be as important for most universities.
Look at the MIT, for example: The middle 50% of students have SAT scores
between 670 to 770 verbal and 730 to 800 in math, that gives 1400 to 1570
total score for 50% of students, so obviously there are quite a few lower
(as well as higher), and only up to 8% in this scores can come from
international students (MIT has a quota for international students).
And as far as I understand the SAT, 500 is some kind average/base the test
is adjusted to every few years. Oh, and notice how unsuitable a SAT score
really is if there are short-term preparation programs to boost your
score...
Thorsten
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TonyB <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> wrote in message
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> Oh, please, it will obviously be called: POV-Ray: Millenium Edition.
>
What, are you saying it won't be ready for another year?
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No kidding... MENSA takes pre 1994 SAT scores as meeting enterence
requirements, and they list different scores for different year ranges. Why
don't they take it anymore? Perhaps the SAT has been dumbed-down, or is not
a valid general intelligence indicator. If you can cram for it, it's
obviously not measing inate skills, but what you can remember.
Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
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> In article <mIHkN6UTRhVbutzvsFk2gjJecSiW@4ax.com> , Peter Popov
> <pet### [at] usanet> wrote:
>
> > Are you sure about that "bit over 500" issue? AFAIR the average score
> > my classmates had was around 740 and they were quite unhappy with it
> > (except the gal that had 800 on verbal to the amaze of our beloved
> > English teacher :) ) I mean, what you're saying sets the SAT score
> > required at about 1200-1300. Isn't this too low?
>
> For international students it doesn't seem to depend so much on the SAT
> verbal score anyway (but you better get near 800 in the math part), at
least
> if you are up for a technical degree (like computer science), but I don't
> know what if required for humanities. You may also want to take some SAT
II
> subject tests. If your school system is much different from that in the US
> (like it is in my case in Germany), your high-school grades may also be
> evaluated differently (meaning you get credit for them). Make at least
sure
> you have (certified) translations of your past few years in school. The
> material/statistics universities have on their websites obviously account
> for the majority of students who are of course native English speakers!
> Do you also need/did you to take the TOEFL? If you get over 600 there it
is
> not a problem even for the well known universities.
> And remember that a high SAT score is _not_ everything, your academic
> history (meaning past grades, etc) and the other parts of your application
> seem to be as important for most universities.
> Look at the MIT, for example: The middle 50% of students have SAT scores
> between 670 to 770 verbal and 730 to 800 in math, that gives 1400 to 1570
> total score for 50% of students, so obviously there are quite a few lower
> (as well as higher), and only up to 8% in this scores can come from
> international students (MIT has a quota for international students).
>
> And as far as I understand the SAT, 500 is some kind average/base the test
> is adjusted to every few years. Oh, and notice how unsuitable a SAT score
> really is if there are short-term preparation programs to boost your
> score...
>
>
> Thorsten
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
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"John M. Dlugosz" wrote:
> No kidding... MENSA takes pre 1994 SAT scores as meeting enterence
> requirements, and they list different scores for different year ranges. Why
> don't they take it anymore? Perhaps the SAT has been dumbed-down, or is not
> a valid general intelligence indicator. If you can cram for it, it's
> obviously not measing inate skills, but what you can remember.
Also, SAT scores are "adjusted" for minorities and such. Maybe not such a bad
idea, but I don't think their ideas on how to do so are always the best.
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